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ThunderRob

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it is an adult visual novel...while it has a ton of porn the main thrust is a twisting turning story...if all you want is fap...i suggest Pornhub..no story to get in the way..hehehehe....i enjoy the twists and turns..but i'm weird and come from the time of paper based books with nary a smartphone in sight for decades to come :O
 
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Your mention of the Red Wedding made me think about the difficulties of doing twists in an interactive story.

On the Red Wedding... it's kind of an interesting thing to mention I suppose because while it was polarizing... most people came to accept it... and even praise it for several reasons. First, was set up immaculately. I mean it... for two and a half books Martin laid out the pieces on the board, set up extremely high stakes (in the first book, if nothing else) and when the event finally happened, once you got over the shock... it all made perfect sense. That it happened was a result of several characters acting in perfect concert with their personalities and established motives. The reasons it happened were all laid out across several chapters. It was Robb's hubris. It was his damnable honor. It was assuming the loyalty of their own bannermen, who got better offers. It was the feeling of safety when a guest in another man's home that allowed them to let their guards down.

After the Red Wedding, you can look and see how it was a tragedy. Inevitable... yet completely evitable if just one or two people made a different choice. It is a masterwork of a dramatic scene.

Doing that well is extremely hard in an interactive medium. Compare that to Game of Thrones: Season 1 (the game) by Telltale. In that game, horrible things happen. No matter what the character does. They happen because the story says they HAVE to happen. What the character doesn't matter. Your first MC will die. One of your other MCs will die... no matter how well you have played. The horrible choices and events in that game are essentially acts of god. You could not predict them, and what influence you ever have is between two awful choices. By the end of Game of Thrones Season 1 I simply did not care, because I knew that nothing I did mattered. The story was dark, but none of that darkness was satisfying because it felt like piling on. The player becomes a spectator. Not an active participant.



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On a similar note, that's why there was a lot of hatred thrown at Mass Effect 3 - not only did it disregard quite a few narrative options set up throughout the series (e.g. "Organics cannot coexist with Artificial Life" couldn't be countered by bringing up the Quarians and the Geth if you got their situation resolved peacefully), but the denouement was completely non-existent.

And as you said, part of why the Red Wedding holds up is because it was foreshadowed in such a stellar way - this particular twist really wasn't.
 
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thunderrob said:
it is an adult visual novel...while it has a ton of porn the main thrust is a twisting turning story...if all you want is fap...i suggest Pornhub..no story to get in the way..hehehehe....i enjoy the twists and turns..but i'm weird and come from the time of paper based books with nary a smartphone in sight for decades to come :O
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Might be just me... but I need some plot in my porn vids unless the scene is just unbelievably hot lol.
 
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bronze189 said:
On a similar note, that's why there was a lot of hatred thrown at Mass Effect 3 - not only did it disregard quite a few narrative options set up throughout the series (e.g. "Organics cannot coexist with Artificial Life" couldn't be countered by bringing up the Quarians and the Geth if you got their situation resolved peacefully), but the denouement was completely non-existent.

And as you said, part of why the Red Wedding holds up is because it was foreshadowed in such a stellar way - this particular twist really wasn't.
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Perhaps we should link some of this together for you then if you believe none of it was foreshadowed...
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It is certainly plot twist, done in generous fashion, but not entirely out of the blue. It is certainly not what we want, but this is the authors creative outlet. Depraved Awakening has more unrealistic, quicker turns of events than this. I'll stop now, because there's always going to be haters out there. Good luck finding (or creating) a better story around here.
 
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I think bigpenniser pretty much has it when he cites suspension of disbelief. The first six chapters train the player to believe that regardless of your choices things will work out in the MC's favour. Regardless of who you sleep with those interested in you find a way to forgive you and/or make it work.
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Brady2626

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ok basically all of the plot twists from the last 2 episodes have come from no where and really are just off putting i mean sure they could have been good if there was any foreshadowing to these events at all but i feel like the author went "well we need a couple plot twists close together so im going to just throw these major game changers in here for no reason whats so ever"
 
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I must admit, I did not see that one coming.
But I am not some genius, I just read and let the stuff get into me.
All so I am very emotional about stuff, so tis is left me to ponder about stuff. And cried a lot.
Not afraid to share that, I do share it coz i felt it was well written.
Now we can just wait, and see. And hope.....
 
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