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racerz1

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Guys is there no harem ending? I just finished it. With you know ending. But I thought I would get a harem ending.
 

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Wish Ana's ending wasn't just an afterthought. She needs her own reconciliation route, yea i know she cheated but this VN already has some heavy content anyway.

Her ending's achievement title "All roads lead back to you", thats deep and hits hard...
 

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L0key2022

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a great game good graphics amazing characters very tragic though wish there was another ending where you could save both maybe liam sacrifices himself in the fire to help you save both megan and melissa as he knew he was going to die from cancer anyways and wanted to do one last good deed this still hold(this could also open up the option to make it a harem ending with megan melissa and rena because after the fire rena realizes that even though your your with more than one girl shes still in love with you because your still a good person and are a loyal man if you haven't cheated) would still give it the emotional impact of a personal loss by losing your best friend while also giving it a brighter conclusion
 
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a great game good graphics amazing characters very tragic though wish there was another ending where you could save both maybe liam sacrifices himself in the fire to help you save both megan and melissa as he knew he was going to die from cancer anyways and wanted to do one last good deed this still hold(this could also open up the option to make it a harem ending with megan melissa and rena because after the fire rena realizes that even though your your with more than one girl shes still in love with you because your still a good person and are a loyal man if you haven't cheated) would still give it the emotional impact of a personal loss by losing your best friend while also giving it a brighter conclusion
But that is not exactly true. As we later find out, his cancer was not that aggresive and it was Leah's meddling with Liam's treatment that was undermining his recovery options all together. The gal could not be any crazier and more sinister. A real monster.
 

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As we later find out, his cancer was not that aggressive and it was Leah's meddling with Liam's treatment that was undermining his recovery options all together.
ah thanks for the information i never got to that part as i quit right at the the fire scene where you had to choose megan or melissa i i just couldn't choose one or the other still makes sense to me though for a fan fiction ending because at that point i haven't discovered hor crazy leah is and hadendt rejected her maybe it would make more sense this would make if liam survived for a while after the fire but it complicates his cancer.
 

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ah thanks for the information i never got to that part as i quit right at the the fire scene where you had to choose megan or melissa i i just couldn't choose one or the other still makes sense to me though for a fan fiction ending because at that point i haven't discovered hor crazy leah is and hadendt rejected her maybe it would make more sense this would make if liam survived for a while after the fire but it complicates his cancer.
It's been a long time since I last played the game. But FYI it has different endings with different girls. And these endings have, in turn, variations here and there. I do not remember the exact figure, but the total was over twenty different endings, when the different variations in them were considered. BTW, in most, if not all of my runs, Liam survived. He is such a great character.

But yes, I perfectly understand that so many people find the fire scene and what follows it extremely upsetting.

A great game anyway.
 

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One of the best plots i've ever seen.
But it's shitty in the end, I hate the fact that 1 or 2 LI have to die in the end and it is inevitable, I like nurses and I like Leah that's why I find it very disappointing that she is a lunatic, would have been better if there is a path to choose ending with Leah just to avoid the tragic end . Every time I replay this game I always end it in the scene before burning the house , I just imagine it never happen and will never happen in my game play and that's it ! happy ending !
 

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But that is not exactly true. As we later find out, his cancer was not that aggresive and it was Leah's meddling with Liam's treatment that was undermining his recovery options all together. The gal could not be any crazier and more sinister. A real monster.
Yeah. There is even a scene where if Rena is there she grabs a nurse other than Leah and the nurse gives him real chemotherapy instead of whatever bullshit Leah put in him and you know that it works because Liam starts vomiting, which is what he said happened the first time he had chemo. At the end, Leah shows up and gives the other nurse a "That's my patient" because she wanted to keep sabotaging his therapy. Leah is one of the most sinister villains ever to be in a VN and I want to meet the bitch that fucked up Mr. PinkCake.
 

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On a related note, I finally finished my playthrough from a few years ago when I rage-quit after the scene with the fire now that was a total man-whore playthrough where I took the advice from the improv teacher and always said yes. I was convinced all this time that it would lead to an unhappy ending when the next chapter said my fate was sealed. I decided to play on this week after sitting with it for a little while. I think what kept me from finishing the playthrough was that the role of Leah had been spoiled for me. Anyway, the ending wasn't necessarily bad but rather bittersweet...

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So am I happy with the ending? Fuck no. Am I going to try and play through again to get a happier one? I don't know about that. Clearly, this is the ending that I deserved. In this ending MC even admits that he isn't in love with Megan. Then again Melissa was the one he professed his love to on the camping trip. This is the kind of game where replaying it makes you feel like you are fucking with fate. So will I just take a bite of this shitburger and take the L or try again? After all, there are 21 possible endings and some of them are bound to be less depressing. Maybe I will sit on it for another year and think it over. After all, there are so many other games to play in the meantime.
 
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On a related note, I finally finished my playthrough from a few years ago when I rage-quit after the scene with the fire now that was a total man-whore playthrough where I took the advice from the improv teacher and always said yes. I was convinced all this time that it would lead to an unhappy ending when the next chapter said my fate was sealed. I decided to play on this week after sitting with it for a little while. I think what kept me from finishing the playthrough was that the role of Leah had been spoiled for me. Anyway, the ending wasn't necessarily bad but rather bittersweet...

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So am I happy with the ending? Fuck no. Am I going to try and play through again to get a happier one? I don't know about that. Clearly, this is the ending that I deserved. In this ending MC even admits that he isn't in love with Megan. Then again Melissa was the one he professed his love to on the camping trip. This is the kind of game where replaying it makes you feel like you are fucking with fate. So will I just take a bite of this shitburger and take the L or try again? After all, there are 21 possible endings and some of them are bound to be less depressing. Maybe I will sit on it for another year and think it over. After all, there are so many other games to play in the meantime.
I played quite a few playthroughs few years ago. But I still remember the first one. Well, not all the details, but the most important choices I made and the final outcome. Since the moment Melissa appeared on screen for the first time, I focused on her. Sorry, Megan.

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The way I see that scenario is if you don't talk to your girlfriend/spouse before whoring yourself out for her career, then it's still cheating. If Jonas bangs Ana, then it's still cheating no matter how good intentioned it might have been in his mind. It would have meant fucking another girl behind Megan's back. If he had told Megan first, she could have either been fine with it, or she could have decided that her acting career isn't worth dealing with that. But if he chooses to bang Ana behind Megan's back, then it's cheating no matter the intentions. So I think Megan's reaction to the news is a realistic one.

Also, Jonas did ultimately have a choice. Jonas could have chosen his personal integrity and faithfulness to Megan over Ana's threats. If Ana actually did follow through with her threats (which she ultimately didn't), and Megan was upset with Jonas's decision to not fuck Ana for the sake of her own career, then I'd say Megan is the asshole not Jonas.
 

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The way I see that scenario is if you don't talk to your girlfriend/spouse before whoring yourself out for her career, then it's still cheating. If Jonas bangs Ana, then it's still cheating no matter how good intentioned it might have been in his mind. It would have meant fucking another girl behind Megan's back. If he had told Megan first, she could have either been fine with it, or she could have decided that her acting career isn't worth dealing with that. But if he chooses to bang Ana behind Megan's back, then it's cheating no matter the intentions. So I think Megan's reaction to the news is a realistic one.

Also, Jonas did ultimately have a choice. Jonas could have chosen his personal integrity and faithfulness to Megan over Ana's threats. If Ana actually did follow through with her threats (which she ultimately didn't), and Megan was upset with Jonas's decision to not fuck Ana for the sake of her own career, then I'd say Megan is the asshole not Jonas.
In my opinion, he was in a no-win situation with Ana and the only way to make the right decision is to not have had a conversation with her at all. When you have a narcissistic cheating ex no contact is the only way to avoid their hoovering, breadcrumbing, and gaslighting. If he doesn't capitulate to her demands he is still harming Megan because his shitty relationship with his ex is trashing her career through no fault of her own. However, if he doesn't go to her apartment he is accepting that Ana alone is responsible for her actions and that she is only giving him the illusion of control over the outcome. Once he agrees to see her, she's got him. Even if he refuses the sex he is now actively making a decision that hurts Megan's career. If he does knuckle under he not only cheats on Megan after being with her officially for a matter of hours but also compounds his shittiness by just straight-up assaulting and battering Ana, which isn't acceptable even though she was blackmailing him for sex. The ending where he ends up with Ana is tragic, not happy. Probably for them both. They are trapped in an unhealthy relationship pretty much because they are both shitty people who have alienated everyone else.
 
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In my opinion, he was in a no-win situation with Ana and the only way to make the right decision is to not have had a conversation with her at all. When you have a narcissistic cheating ex no contact is the only way to avoid their hoovering, breadcrumbing, and gaslighting. If he doesn't capitulate to her demands he is still harming Megan because his shitty relationship with his ex is trashing her career through no fault of her own. However, if he doesn't go to her apartment he is accepting that Ana alone is responsible for her actions and that she is only giving him the illusion of control over the outcome. Once he agrees to see her, she's got him. Even if he refuses the sex he is now actively making a decision that hurts Megan's career. If he does knuckle under he not only cheats on Megan after being with her officially for a matter of hours but also compounds his shittiness by just straight-up assaulting and battering Ana, which isn't acceptable even though she was blackmailing him for sex. The ending where he ends up with Ana is tragic, not happy. Probably for them both. They are trapped in an unhealthy relationship pretty much because they are both shitty people who have alienated everyone else.
Except, Ana already tried to scuttle Megan's audition before Jonas was aware Ana was involved. He didn't know Ana was there until after the audition. The only thing that saved Megan's career was the fact that Jonas confronted Ana. If he doesn't go to Ana's apartment at all, there is no incentive for Ana to get out of Megan's way.
 
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