Meaning Less

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And i never felt any jealousy, but reading it is fucking annoying. So yes, i hate ntr, but not for such stupid reasons. But it makes me wonder why many hetero guys want to see more dicks so badly o_O
I enjoy almost every fetish so I cant speak for people that only enjoy ntr. But if you wanna know the problem probably lies on self insertion, self inserting is something people that lack empathy strongly rely on because they don't care about the character they are playing with. Then anything you don't want to see or do becomes annoying or irritating instead.

The only way to truly enjoy playing as both male or female characters is to try and understand their journey, NTR isn't supposed to make you jealous, it's your character that gets jealous or starts doubting himself, and the fun part about playing these games is seeing their reactions to what is happening, how dense they are for not noticing,how powerless they become and how horny his love interest becomes.
The same is true for incest games, hardly anyone that plays them actually wants to fuck their siblings, but seeing another character enjoying the taboo is the fun part.
 

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Its sad that mods will force the ntr tag on a game
It should be up to the dev and no one else I feel like there is power harassment going on. The dev makes this game and most of the time allows it to be shared here so the mods should let him tag his own game. At least from what i've seen apparently the mods forced sedhaild to add ntr tag.
 
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Meaning Less

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Its sad that mods will force the ntr tag on a game
It should be up to the dev and no one else I feel like there is power harassment going on. The dev makes this game and most of the time allows it to be shared here so the mods should let him tag his own game. At least from what i've seen apparently the mods forced sedhaild to add ntr tag.
So devs should be able to ommit their own game tags? makes no sense, people that play the game are the ones that should tag it.
If you add a single urination scene your game should be tagged so people can find it easier.
There are ntr scenes in this game, even if just a couple its enough for the tag.
Not sure why you would call it harassment, If anything that's extra exposure for this vn, even the shota tag is barely there.
 
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I enjoy almost every fetish so I cant speak for people that only enjoy ntr. But if you wanna know the problem probably lies on self insertion, self inserting is something people that lack empathy strongly rely on because they don't care about the character they are playing with. Then anything you don't want to see or do becomes annoying or irritating instead.

The only way to truly enjoy playing as both male or female characters is to try and understand their journey, NTR isn't supposed to make you jealous, it's your character that gets jealous or starts doubting himself, and the fun part about playing these games is seeing their reactions to what is happening, how dense they are for not noticing,how powerless they become and how horny his love interest becomes.
The same is true for incest games, hardly anyone that plays them actually wants to fuck their siblings, but seeing another character enjoying the taboo is the fun part.
I cant enjoy games if i dont play the MC. If i just want to read a random story from a distant view i read newspapers. Games are meant to be played from the MC perspective, not to be read like a book...thats also why i dont play kinetic novels, if i dont get any choices its just like reading a comic, but its not a game.

Thats wrong. Real ntr is deep dark emotional tag...the whole point of ntr is jeleausy, suffering and helpless rage. The watery definition ntr got here (someone fucks and its not you) is a joke compared to real ntr games. They are like kidnapping a virgin bride, breaking her into a dick craving gangbang slut and forcing the mc her fiancé to watch it live or as video. This is common ntr level and many go far deeper/darker. Of course i dont like real ntr either, mostly because there are more dicks involved, but there is also rape, forced prostitution and similar cruel stuff...we run a woman shelter and get enough cruel storys to hear on a daily base, so i really dont want to play games with such topics. I play games to get my mind off the things i have to handle all the time. Okay, if you just want to read it like an outsider you should visit there you can read all the cruel manga you want and if you just want to watch sex why dont go to porn sites...but this section of f95 is for games.
Funny you mentioned that, remember my mentioned lifetime relationship? Is my big sister and we are together since my 6. birthday. Of course i dont see any taboo or kink in the whole incest genre and the definition it got in games (horny daddy or horny son) is less appealing to me than any lesbian protagonist game, but i still prefer it over step-family or roommate crap because i cant relate to living with strangers.

That being said, the whole ntr discussion here is pointless.
There is one scene in the prologue, you can either watch a future LI give a blowjob to a jerk (corruption points) or prevent it (kindness points). Except for the fact there is a jerk involved its the same as any other corruption/kindness choice in the game...for example the shy girl you live with, you can respect her wish to not perv on her or use your powers (kindness/love route) or ignore her wish (corruption/sex only route). Per real definition its not ntr because at this point the mc dont even likes her and could call it punishment for the stupid bitch. But since we are on f95 its ntr and 100% avoidable, not only not watch it but also prevent it and keep her pure for yourself. This is not a ntr game and it will never be one because the mc dont gains any power if other people fuck, he is an incubus and only gains power if he has sex. It may involve some netori at some point, because he also gains power if he fucks the girls/wifes of others, but he is literally addicting and his girls will never cheat on him. So the only possible way to add ntr in this story would be the false king raping the prisoners and it may happen at some point, its up to the dev, i just hope he adds again a way to fully prevent it because most harem fans dont want to see such things, me as well because its a dick more...but maybe there is a compromise this time, instead of no sex at all for preventing a ntr scene, the girls in the cell could use the time to take care of each other, the succubus needs food and the dragon could regret her brainless move and help her...but thats up to the dev, i just wanted to point out this game cant become a ntr game because the storyline makes it impossible to go this way.
 

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Erm, i said i dont like ntr, what makes you think i watched the ntr scene? I only guessed from the context before it would lead to a blowjob and the ntr warning made sure there will be a scene...so i avoided it right away...so dont ask me if the mc was jealous, curious or jerked off, i dont wanted to see it and i dont want to know it ^^

Well, no. Tons of games have lesbian scenes with love interests, but they either are isolated scenes or bring the other girl in the harem as well. I dont remember any game the mc lost a girl to another girl...and you need to be more than insecure if you need to compete with the other gender...that would only be ntr with a female protagonist ^^
And gays dont steal girls, its against their nature...and i would instantly drop, delete and ignore every game with an unavoidable mc gay scene...as said, i cant handle more than one dick in a game.
 

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Erm, i said i dont like ntr, what makes you think i watched the ntr scene? I only guessed from the context before it would lead to a blowjob and the ntr warning made sure there will be a scene...so i avoided it right away...so dont ask me if the mc was jealous, curious or jerked off, i dont wanted to see it and i dont want to know it ^^
In the theme of this game the whole meaning is lost. We have a game about succubus and incubus and they are more chaste than nuns. What was the point in taking such a plot if it is realized at the level of a banal harem? In addition, the term NTR itself does not apply to the subject of succubus. For them sex is nothing more than a way of food. You don't cheat on pasta with pizza. It's the same with them. If you are so serious about the harem rules and hate NTR than why don't you think that the harem is the reverse NTR?
In any case the desire to control every girl in the game, like the harem lovers, speaks only of their own problems in their personal lives. And unfortunately this is reflected in the entire genre, where a lot of harem games come out and all are the same.
 

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I see an active discussion on the topic of "3 letters" and I have an immodest question.
Is new "3 letters" content added to the game, or has nothing changed? (since version 5.00)
 
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This month I made a server, all of you are free to :)
 

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