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darkdepths

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Maybe I interpret the tag wrong but a "harem" is for me something with a romance mechanic.

This game seems pure corruption which works really fine with NTR imo, the whole focus is more about getting laid instead of forming a relationship.
NTR doesn't always mean cuckolding, it can also mean sharing, prostitution, swinging, etc.

Personally I am happy to see a corruption/incest/NTR game, those are quite rare but can work fine for the dev nonetheless.
Although I must also say that the old HS is not something that gets me easily excited after all this time, I will still give the game a chance after a couple of updates. With a nice corruption mechanic it could really be something.

As always, please Dev do what you want with the game. If you do something that you don't like your whole work would suffer. :)
 

BTLD

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Maybe I interpret the tag wrong but a "harem" is for me something with a romance mechanic.

This game seems pure corruption which works really fine with NTR imo, the whole focus is more about getting laid instead of forming a relationship.
NTR doesn't always mean cuckolding, it can also mean sharing, prostitution, swinging, etc.

Personally I am happy to see a corruption/incest/NTR game, those are quite rare but can work fine for the dev nonetheless.
Although I must also say that the old HS is not something that gets me easily excited after all this time, I will still give the game a chance after a couple of updates. With a nice corruption mechanic it could really be something.

As always, please Dev do what you want with the game. If you do something that you don't like your whole work would suffer. :)
stop talking if you have no idea what you're talking about.,...
This visual novel has scenes focused on Netorare (寝取られ). Netorare is more than a simple act of infidelity, but the fetishization of jealousy and other negative feelings commonly associated with it.

For a game to be classified as Netorare the following conditions must be met:

1. The protagonist's significant other, a very close friend, or in some cases, a close relative is stolen from him by someone seducing, coercing, blackmailing, outright raping them, or by using other techniques. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are literally stolen, but the negative feelings experienced by their significant other might make it seem so.

2. The one who loses their loved one almost always finds out about the situation and suffers from jealousy and the feeling of helplessness arisen from an inability to change anything. The one stealing the lover and/or the stolen loved one might rub it in by humiliating the loser in private or in public.

3. The trait does not apply if the character having sex with someone else does not have a close loving relationship with the protagonist, and if the protagonist does not experience jealousy and other negative feelings upon finding out about the act. In other words, the ties between the partners and their forcible separation is important to the netorare fetish. For example, an unrequited crush or a potential hero(ine) on a different route would not count for the purposes of this fetish.

4. The act of stealing must happen while the protagonist is in a relationship with the stolen significant other. Scenes of heroine's past relationships do not count as Netorare.
 

dusty stu

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Tips to asset-flip porn devs everywhere:
If you are gunna use Illusion (or Daz) to make your models, at least get all the extentions to make your girls looks slightly less monotonous.
 

darkdepths

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stop talking if you have no idea what you're talking about.,...
This visual novel has scenes focused on Netorare (寝取られ). Netorare is more than a simple act of infidelity, but the fetishization of jealousy and other negative feelings commonly associated with it.

For a game to be classified as Netorare the following conditions must be met:

1. The protagonist's significant other, a very close friend, or in some cases, a close relative is stolen from him by someone seducing, coercing, blackmailing, outright raping them, or by using other techniques. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are literally stolen, but the negative feelings experienced by their significant other might make it seem so.

2. The one who loses their loved one almost always finds out about the situation and suffers from jealousy and the feeling of helplessness arisen from an inability to change anything. The one stealing the lover and/or the stolen loved one might rub it in by humiliating the loser in private or in public.

3. The trait does not apply if the character having sex with someone else does not have a close loving relationship with the protagonist, and if the protagonist does not experience jealousy and other negative feelings upon finding out about the act. In other words, the ties between the partners and their forcible separation is important to the netorare fetish. For example, an unrequited crush or a potential hero(ine) on a different route would not count for the purposes of this fetish.

4. The act of stealing must happen while the protagonist is in a relationship with the stolen significant other. Scenes of heroine's past relationships do not count as Netorare.
The acronym NTR can also mean netorase which is sharing.
You don't know what the focus will be, we only have version 0.1 which is little more than a demo.
 

loikl

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ok let's open pandora's box, TWizard is this going to be ntr, share, swinging or prostitution?

ntr: the MC does not agree with the deception and loses the girl because of some specific npc.

share: MC shares the girl / girls as in a threesome (MMF with MC included)

Swinging - The MC swaps girls with another npc.

Prostitution: well, it is understood by itself.

In the first option the MC DOES NOT WISH the deception and suffers for it, while in the others the MC sees the girls as "objects" of his property and uses them as he wants, in addition he never loses the girl.
 

SeveredRealms

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Loving it game has been live for 17 hours and now has 3 pages all arguing about the NTR crap. Great way to drive people to play the game eh.... on one side you have people ignoring the game because of the tag with a few questioning its real hidden purpose and on the other side people well wait they are all only talking about ntr lmao.... other then the guy above... he just thinks the girls are ugly....

Funny thing is if that tag wasnt there maybe the dev would be getting more constructive criticism but nahhhhhhhhhhhhh lets have another game with ntr and another thread with a ntr war....
 

BTLD

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Loving it game has been live for 17 hours and now has 3 pages all arguing about the NTR crap. Great way to drive people to play the game eh.... on one side you have people ignoring the game because of the tag with a few questioning its real hidden purpose and on the other side people well wait they are all only talking about ntr lmao.... other then the guy above... he just thinks the girls are ugly....

Funny thing is if that tag wasnt there maybe the dev would be getting more constructive criticism but nahhhhhhhhhhhhh lets have another game with ntr and another thread with a ntr war....
on the other hand...dev doesn't say anything about NTR
is it avoidable?
is it skippable?
is it netorare?
is it netori?
so yea ...you have 3/3 ntr full pages but dev doesn't say anything to quiet the waters...so...people will do what they know best...talk about it.
I for one will not play a game without knowing if it's avoidable or not.
 

DrakoGhoul

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While I'm looking forward to playing and have no problem with any of the tags. That number of characters has me a bit worried. That's way too many in my opinion. 10, 15 or even 20 sure but a cast of 40 characters is too much.
 

BlasKyau

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on the other hand...dev doesn't say anything about NTR
is it avoidable?
is it skippable?
is it netorare?
is it netori?
so yea ...you have 3/3 ntr full pages but dev doesn't say anything to quiet the waters...so...people will do what they know best...talk about it.
I for one will not play a game without knowing if it's avoidable or not.
Well, in principle the NTR is avoidable. But we don't know how or what choices will lead to it:

As for everyone's NTR concerns it is currently not fully developed in the game but rather some options that can potentially lead to NTR in future. Any NTR currently in game is currently some exhibitionism.

In other words:

NTR will be avoidable.
Personally I prefer to wait and see if some kind of hint is added that says how to prevent NTR (or better, let you choose at the beginning if you want NTR or not), if not, I suppose I will just ignore the game.
 

hobobobb

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No, it is not at least not for the Dev because just the existence of NTR content can reduce the number of supporters from the non-NTR fanbase.

This is pretty much me exactly.

I have a few simple rules regarding adult games be they on F95 or anywhere else.

Rule 1; Developers should make exactly what they want to make. Even if that's something I don't care to play or $upport.

Why? Because I don't believe that it's the place for players to demand or whine (whining I identify as criticism without recommendation)

Rule 2; I will not $upport (give money to) any game that has Sharing, NTR, Orgy, Gangbang, etc. Even if this content is optional/avoidable.

Why? I don't want my hard-earned €uro's being spent towards the creation of content I dislike.

After all, (as I say in my signature) It's the developer's game, they should do what they want. Just like it's my money and I will do what I want with it.

My advice for the Dev; Make exactly what you want and don't worry about the Love/Hate argument for NTR or whatever other fetish players are vocal about. However, do realize that your decisions will have a direct impact on your player numbers and (if you care about $upport) the money as well.

People are free to choose what they make, and they are free to choose what they support.
Yay freedom!
 

sevendustkorn1008

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I don't like these kinds of games that have optional NTR, why would I waste internet data and hard drive space with video renders and content that I would never watch? I don't like NTR but I think a game must be full NTR or without NTR.
Your opinion is noted. Others, such as myself, like playing through alternate routes. I want to see what happens when the MC has his women stolen from him. But I also want to see what happens when he succeeds and gets the girl(s).
 
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sevendustkorn1008

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Funny thing is if that tag wasnt there maybe the dev would be getting more constructive criticism but nahhhhhhhhhhhhh lets have another game with ntr and another thread with a ntr war....
On the flip side, if the dev says nothing about NTR, then people stumble onto NTR, there will be a huge shitstorm. It's lose-lose if we use your logic. Seems to me like the only solution for you would be to just eliminate all NTR games to avoid any problems. And you're quick to assume the dev added NTR to appeal to different players and not the distinct possibility that the dev wanted to make a game with an NTR and harem path simply because they wanted to.
 
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BlasKyau

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Your opinion is noted. Others, such as myself, like playing through alternate routes. I want to see what happens when the MC has his women stolen from him. But I also want to see what happens when he succeeds and gets the girl(s).
I'm not going to follow a route with NTR (first because I don't see more than one ending in games, and second, since I don't like NTR it would be stupid of me to follow it). But the truth is that I don't care if a game has NTR as long as it can be completely avoided (and if possible in an easy and well explained way so as not to be able to arrive at it by mistake)
 
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