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Pr0GamerJohnny

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This is not reverse psychology. The main condition is: “players should not want to drive away Steph”, but this is not the case, there is: “players cannot drive away Steph”. In this context, the author's condition does not work.
Sounds working to me! It's like if you ask a Russian person on camera if their government is great, 100% will agree it's super great!


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Grumpy Old Aussie

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This is not reverse psychology. The main condition is: “players should not want to drive away Steph”, but this is not the case, there is: “players cannot drive away Steph”. In this context, the author's condition does not work.
I was paraphrasing a dev quote. the dev said "Steph is designed to drive you crazy but not drive you away." You're right though, you can't drive her away unless you play Asahibito's mod.
 

Joshy92

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The only award I would give is to Steph, but she can share it with Tori and take turns shoving it up their assholes :ROFLMAO:
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Bro that is not going up my beautiful angels arse
My tongue is though
I want to give her the best rimjob I possibly can

I love Steph
Although I will admit sometimes she does make me want to pull my hair out
 

Nafig

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I was paraphrasing a dev quote. the dev said "Steph is designed to drive you crazy but not drive you away." You're right though, you can't drive her away unless you play Asahibito's mod.
This option doesn't work either. Steph should drive you crazy, but at the same time the player will want to fuck her, that's what it sounds like. This is not the case, Steph/Tori do not evoke such feelings. Players see Steph differently than the author, which is absolutely correct. Players evaluate events differently than the author. I don't see anything sexy about Steph's "exploits". Steph's actions do not excite, they cause contempt, and this is a completely different story.
 

Karmadive

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It always came off as a weird decision to have a Sharing game were the author wants you to feel distrust right away... which in any sharing situation to be healthy you need full trust in your partner. So right off the bat the Dev wants a game about an unhealthy relationship that is already predisposed to end badly.
 

Nurikabe

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It always came off as a weird decision to have a Sharing game were the author wants you to feel distrust right away... which in any sharing situation to be healthy you need full trust in your partner. So right off the bat the Dev wants a game about an unhealthy relationship that is already predisposed to end badly.
When talking about the original release, you are 100% correct. The devs want the player to feel distrust when in reality, the couple trusts each other entirely. Many people have complained that the MC will not fight back against Steph being bitchy or assert himself, especially when on the low-confidence path. The current release has removed most of the information that made the player distrust Steph. The devs have even made Steph more loveable and Gina less likable for the purposes of taking the argument away from the people complaining about Steph and choosing Gina. The latest version has been written to ensure that the player understands that they are working together, they are in love, and will not leave each other no matter what sexual choices the player makes, high- or low-confidence.

The dev is not aiming for a game where the couple has an unhealthy relationship. The original idea was to make the player think there was an unhealthy relationship. Due to players' complaints, most of the "clues" that led the players to believe there was an unhealthy relationship have been removed. Now, we could argue that the couple is not in the right headspace to enter into an open relationship or any aspect of the swinging lifestyle. I would argue that most people are not prepared to do so. More importantly, trying to apply real world, common sense, and hard lessons learned to a simple game where the point is to get a couple into a simple, open relationship, porn scenario will drive you insane. I think we all hoped that this game would be a much more realistic and sensible story about a mature couple entering the lifestyle. This is not that game.
 

Nurikabe

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We have certainly postulated some hilarious theories and have apparently been wrong about all of them. I laugh the most when someone gets upset because they believe "Another Man's Wife" refers to a specific person (like Tori) versus the general idea that swinging involves another man's wife.

I am looking forward to hearing the secret, regardless of what it is. Mostly because I want to see the rest of the story. It would be nice to see where this is all going!
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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When talking about the original release, you are 100% correct. The devs want the player to feel distrust when in reality, the couple trusts each other entirely. Many people have complained that the MC will not fight back against Steph being bitchy or assert himself, especially when on the low-confidence path. The current release has removed most of the information that made the player distrust Steph. The devs have even made Steph more loveable and Gina less likable for the purposes of taking the argument away from the people complaining about Steph and choosing Gina. The latest version has been written to ensure that the player understands that they are working together, they are in love, and will not leave each other no matter what sexual choices the player makes, high- or low-confidence.

The dev is not aiming for a game where the couple has an unhealthy relationship. The original idea was to make the player think there was an unhealthy relationship. Due to players' complaints, most of the "clues" that led the players to believe there was an unhealthy relationship have been removed. Now, we could argue that the couple is not in the right headspace to enter into an open relationship or any aspect of the swinging lifestyle. I would argue that most people are not prepared to do so. More importantly, trying to apply real world, common sense, and hard lessons learned to a simple game where the point is to get a couple into a simple, open relationship, porn scenario will drive you insane. I think we all hoped that this game would be a much more realistic and sensible story about a mature couple entering the lifestyle. This is not that game.
Sorry mate I can't agree. Most of the things that lead to distrust are certainly still there. The receipt, the phone call, the water, etc are still present. The dev said the thing with Tori goes back to the Christmas party. Steph has never trusted her husband enough to tell him her secrets, Chuck, her sex secret, etc. I'm not even going to start on the sexcapades. The MC is supposedly madly in love with her but pushed her to fuck Donnie because he can't get fucking Tori out of his head. It doesn't sound like a couple in love to me. Steph says she loves MC as if he was the most important person in the world, her hero, but she doesn't show that in actions.

Sure the High Confidence path is a lot softer then it was and Steph is tolerable, but in love? No, not convinced. The medium path and low path, Steph is still a bitch. Its not a healthy relationship no matter how it is dressed up and the dev proclaims otherwise. Actions speak louder than words. The end result is they will remain together, but I'm just not accepting their relationship is healthy.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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OMG guys I just had a sexy idea

What if Steph, Tori & Gina go out one Friday night
And they come back home with cum all over their faces and with three creamy treats for me

My goodness I think I would die of happiness
It's more likely you get your wish than I get mine, especially if they make a second game.
 
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Nafig

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Sorry mate I can't agree. Most of the things that lead to distrust are certainly still there. The receipt, the phone call, the water, etc are still present. The dev said the thing with Tori goes back to the Christmas party. Steph has never trusted her husband enough to tell him her secrets, Chuck, her sex secret, etc. I'm not even going to start on the sexcapades. The MC is supposedly madly in love with her but pushed her to fuck Donnie because he can't get fucking Tori out of his head. It doesn't sound like a couple in love to me. Steph says she loves MC as if he was the most important person in the world, her hero, but she doesn't show that in actions.

Sure the High Confidence path is a lot softer then it was and Steph is tolerable, but in love? No, not convinced. The medium path and low path, Steph is still a bitch. Its not a healthy relationship no matter how it is dressed up and the dev proclaims otherwise. Actions speak louder than words. The end result is they will remain together, but I'm just not accepting their relationship is healthy.
Everything is just like that. Words don't mean anything. When I look at Steph's actions. When I look at the format of the Steph/MC relationship, I do not see respect for the MC on the part of Steph, for me it is a “mistress-slave” format. I cannot imagine the previous four years the way the author describes them.
Author: “help him convince his wife that this is a journey they want to take together.” I don’t see in any event that the MC needs to convince Steph. I don't see Steph doubting any event. On the contrary, Steph runs ahead of the locomotive.
 

Nafig

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I would argue that most people are not prepared to do so.
I don't agree. Players came for swinger adventures. I think many people play ALWL and “Babysitters” and there are no problems with swing. I have passed these VNs on all routes and have not had such a negative impression, even on the NTR route. I would say that the characters in these VNs and their writers are more honest. They don't show love with words, they show it with actions. I expected the same kind of relationship from this game. I am sure that for most players the term swing is an exchange of partners between married couples in one event and one place. For example, a country hotel in ALWL. The players did not receive such relationships.
All of us, players, form an impression of the people around us based on their actions. The author wants players to evaluate the characters by how he describes them and not pay attention to the actions of these characters. Players won't do that. It doesn’t matter to me how many times Steph says “MC I love you” when there is Donny, when Steph arranges a striptease and sex, promising the MC “only conversation, no undressing.” No one will believe in Steph's love for MC, words don't matter.
I don't see any changes in Steph across versions. Steph does the same things. Steph has the same main goal. Steph also wipes his feet on MC. Nothing changed.
 
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Joshy92

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I think Tori is really pretty
But if she thinks she can pull me away from my honey buns
Then she is in for a shock because I will never leave Steph
 
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