VN Ren'Py Abandoned Another Man's Wife [v1.092] [Too Perilous]

[Karmadive]

I was so tired it took me the longest time to figure out when they said "game" they meant "Scene".

I feel like planning might be their biggest problem currently. their updates of their progress have been all over the place... New male characters introduced, Steph's trip... now it's all about the Tori Jason scene still (which yeah needs work still since it doesn't seem to take all the choices you make into consideration ) and now bringing back best girl Gina (hopefully not to make her unlikeable even more to try and make us like Steph and Tori more).

Which to me was the wrong idea they shouldn't tear down one character and do minimal efforts to make the others more likeable.

Also the one progress update made me feel like a veiled attempt to try and introduce more doubts about her being faithful content... then a couple updates were it doesn't touch on those things at all and ignores them. But focuses on they are super happy and we are even giving them some sceneswith both of them cause they love each other so much.

I have a sneaking suspicion Steph's big reveal is being pushed off this update.

also from what I'm understanding in the post (might have it wrong), The choice you make that you decide not to go talk to Tori and Jason, leads into the last scene of Tori and Jason's apartment talking to them??

There are two games trying to be made here!!

Gods I'm rambling... were is my caffeine!!

 

[Joshy92]

Yeah, this game confuses me sometimes too
I have decided to just hardcore simp for Steph and not pay much attention to the plot
Otherwise I'll just get even more confused

 

[Nafig]

It seems the delay is due to finding ways to make Gina even worse.

 

[Mr.Music]

Are we still guessing Steph's secret?

Steph was born Stephen...

Drink up Joshy92

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I was so tired it took me the longest time to figure out when they said "game" they meant "Scene".

I feel like planning might be their biggest problem currently. their updates of their progress have been all over the place... New male characters introduced, Steph's trip... now it's all about the Tori Jason scene still (which yeah needs work still since it doesn't seem to take all the choices you make into consideration ) and now bringing back best girl Gina (hopefully not to make her unlikeable even more to try and make us like Steph and Tori more).

Which to me was the wrong idea they shouldn't tear down one character and do minimal efforts to make the others more likeable.

Also the one progress update made me feel like a veiled attempt to try and introduce more doubts about her being faithful content... then a couple updates were it doesn't touch on those things at all and ignores them. But focuses on they are super happy and we are even giving them some sceneswith both of them cause they love each other so much.

I have a sneaking suspicion Steph's big reveal is being pushed off this update.

also from what I'm understanding in the post (might have it wrong), The choice you make that you decide not to go talk to Tori and Jason, leads into the last scene of Tori and Jason's apartment talking to them??

There are two games trying to be made here!!

Gods I'm rambling... were is my caffeine!!

I'd say their biggest problem is just complete lack of progress.

While I'd also agree with your sentiment on lack of planning, we really have to look at how much they've put out. I just checked the steam news page history, it was back in Weekly Update #10 (!) they introduced the main Tori house visit. That was mid-August. Over the last 6 months, it's been minor dialogue and variable tweaks, the total labor amounting to what many devs would do in a small QoL update.

Like has anyone else woken up to this yet? It's become an absolute joke. I'm talking aside from all our debates on content, characters, story, likeability of Steph, etc. The game has basically been dead for 6 months, and that's in total lifespan of 8 months.

Of course I'll temper my criticisms recognizing they're a steam dev, so it's not like they're actively ripping people off or deceiving them into funding a dead project, you buy it and that's that. Though that makes their behavior even stranger, because the speech style of their weekly news sounds very much a patreon dev, trying to assure their fans that they're still working.

 

[Adamska]

The game has basically been dead for 6 months

I've fallen into the "distrust/dislike Steph and Tori" camp over time like many others, but I think for a $6 single purchase game on Steam there's a ton of value here (and we're getting the rest for free eventually, we just need to wait). It's not like they're milking a fanbase for $$$ every month and stringing everyone along knowingly, they're just trying to collect feedback and make changes to address unexpected audience responses. As someone hobbling together my own little story/game in my free time, I totally understand how writing and imagination can quickly outpace the development intricacies required when charting and programming VNs. Especially for these types of games, in my opinion it's fair for the developer to take all the time they feel they need. I really value that this crew is willing to tweak and change their work to fit their intended vision (even if we all don't agree with the characterization changes).

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

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The positives:
- The game won't be updated this week but next week. Its the first time we have had a clear time frame for this update so that's positive.
- The skipping path is going to something "yummy" for Steph and MC? I so wish he wouldn't use that word. Anyway, I'll take that as a positive as well. Benefit of the doubt.

Neutrals:
- Once again Steph's 'reveal' is not even mentioned and has been downplayed in recent dev updates after being promoted as the centre piece of the entire story. Why is that? Has that changed?
- The one thing I would be excited about is the return of Gina and sadly I'm not. If they hadn't nerfed Gina and the dev been so hostile towards her, I would think her return as a good thing. Here we have the dev talking about her as if she is a wonderful character when I know he doesn't feel that way. So are they going to trash Gina some more? Unless they have accepted the fact people prefer Gina to the two main toxic women? So Gina's return could go either way. If Gina is visiting MC then what is Steph up too? I have my suspicions.

Negatives:
- Paths tied and untied, "tougher" route, the usual word soup that doesn't mean much to players without more input explaining what that means. Again old saves are useless. Players will have to restart the game again since the mechanics changes go back to the Saturday night and there are more changes to the Tori/Jason scenes.
- A tougher LC route mean the MC has to endure an even more toxic Steph. No thanks.

Asahibito, I hope you are updating that mod, I'm going to need it.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Yeah, this game confuses me sometimes too
I have decided to just hardcore simp for Steph and not pay much attention to the plot
Otherwise I'll just get even more confused

LMAO I'm lost as to what you see in Steph but I'm glad someone stands up for her. Never change Joshy.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I've fallen into the "distrust/dislike Steph and Tori" camp over time like many others, but I think for a $6 single purchase game on Steam there's a ton of value here (and we're getting the rest for free eventually, we just need to wait). It's not like they're milking a fanbase for $$$ every month and stringing everyone along knowingly, they're just trying to collect feedback and make changes to address unexpected audience responses.

Oh absolutely, the tone is just weird. It doesn't sound like a hobbyist, it sounds like corporate press releases.

Don't disagree they've already released $6 in value, but that was also true back in August.

 

[Adamska]

If Gina is visiting MC then what is Steph up too? I have my suspicions.

MC is going to need something to do while Steph is on her trip to the bar and the pool, right? Seems like the perfect time for Gina to pounce. I remember the developer referring to Gina as someone who enjoys taking what's not hers and then acting innocent, which sounds like her main motivation is getting attention. I think with the changes the devs wanted Gina to come off as more of a "lovable troublemaker" than the pure sweetheart she initially seemed to be in comparison to Steph. Especially since the first interaction with Gina is during a night/next morning full of Steph actions that are very contentious to players. They may have over calibrated and went too far "troublemaker," since the past few updates seem to be aimed at rebalancing player perception of Steph into a more positive light.

Edit: Also, I will be imagining heart shaped nipple pasties underneath Gina's preview image coat until new information surfaces.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

MC is going to need something to do while Steph is on her trip to the bar and the pool, right? Seems like the perfect time for Gina to pounce. I remember the developer referring to Gina as someone who enjoys taking what's not hers and then acting innocent, which sounds like her main motivation is getting attention. I think with the changes the devs wanted Gina to come off as more of a "lovable troublemaker" than the pure sweetheart she initially seemed to be in comparison to Steph. Especially since the first interaction with Gina is during a night/next morning full of Steph actions that are very contentious to players. They may have over calibrated and went too far "troublemaker," since the past few updates seem to be aimed at rebalancing player perception of Steph into a more positive light.

Edit: Also, I will be imagining heart shaped nipple pasties underneath Gina's preview image coat until new information surfaces.

I agree that is probably the way they are going with Gina. That is what first came to my mind, but then there is the unused render of Steph in bed with Tori and Jason. So it could go that way as well. Another mystery to me is why the MC/Steph/Tori/Jason would not just swing with the MC onboard instead of this splitting the couple up shit.

I get very frustrated with the devs reasoning. They created Steph to drive the players crazy but not crazy enough to leave the game. They also threw out red herrings to make Steph look like she was cheating, but she isn't. Then they get upset and wonder why people don't like her and preferred Gina. Steph is not a likeable person and she was created that way. Why they think people are suddenly going to start liking her by adding a few nice words when her actions speak otherwise is bizarre reasoning to me. Since the devs have said the MC won't leave Steph, its pointless at this point in bringing in Gina to try and steal the MC, when we know she will automatically fail. The only reason to do so is to further tarnish Gina. Considering she is one of the few characters their fan base actually likes, its not going to serve them very well to do so.

 

[savagge0x]

what is the update about?

 

[Karmadive]

what is the update about?

The next update I'm not sure. It's either a bigger update then recently including Steph's Secret, business trip with 2 new male characters. I think Tori Jason 2nd scene was supposed to happen before the trip as well, A new scene with Gina...

or just like the previous ones some small changes to Tori Jason visit again and maybe another scene afterwards?

I'm expecting the later one unfortunately

 

[Mr.Music]

what is the update about?

You have the same info as us, if you read this post: https://f95zone.to/threads/another-mans-wife-v1-07d-too-perilous.164483/post-12342933

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

The next update I'm not sure. It's either a bigger update then recently including Steph's Secret, business trip with 2 new male characters. I think Tori Jason 2nd scene was supposed to happen before the trip as well, A new scene with Gina...

or just like the previous ones some small changes to Tori Jason visit again and maybe another scene afterwards?

I'm expecting the later one unfortunately

MC is suppose to meet with Tori the next night. I haven't seen anything about it in the Dev comments so not sure if that will go ahead or not.

 

[Joshy92]

I'm a simple man I just want Tori, Gina & Steph to all cuck me at the same time
It would be a triple cuckolding

But just so everyone knows I would want to be there cheering the girls on and holding their hands
Also I want all three to get pregnant so I can be a daddy three times

 

[NewTricks]

I'm a simple man I just want Tori, Gina & Steph to all cuck me at the same time
It would be a triple cuckolding

But just so everyone knows I would want to be there cheering the girls on and holding their hands
Also I want all three to get pregnant so I can be a daddy three times

I'm sure that this game will have a path somewhat similar to this

 

[Adamska]

Another mystery to me is why the MC/Steph/Tori/Jason would not just swing with the MC onboard instead of this splitting the couple up shit.

The best theory I have (though I know it's been soft-denied by the authors already) is that Steph's secret has something to do with nymphomania or a similar sex-related condition. It has to be something that's light enough to be accidentally dropped at an office party to Tori, and complicated enough that Steph would never have shared it with the MC due to a feared reaction. I don't think a very traumatic event like a hard r story or secret past marriage is going to come up at an office party, and there isn't a lot of reason to hide that from the MC. I think "I have trouble controlling my sexual urges" fits perfectly though, Tori talks sex all the time and a drunken Steph might have overshared some past stories/information that kicked off their little game. This could tie into a bad breakup with Chuck in a number of different ways she might find embarrassing due to her own past mistakes (cheating), or she may have shared this with Chuck and it turned out very badly so now she wants to keep it a secret from her lovers for fear of losing them. It also explains why Tori might want to get Steph alone, she would know that Steph is working hard to mask this secret from the MC and behaves differently when he's around as a result. She's both trying to "help" Steph relieve this stress/rediscover her sexual nature and gets to benefit by seeing (or hearing the stories) of her true nympho self in action.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

The best theory I have (though I know it's been soft-denied by the authors already) is that Steph's secret has something to do with nymphomania or a similar sex-related condition. It has to be something that's light enough to be accidentally dropped at an office party to Tori, and complicated enough that Steph would never have shared it with the MC due to a feared reaction. I don't think a very traumatic event like a hard r story or secret past marriage is going to come up at an office party, and there isn't a lot of reason to hide that from the MC. I think "I have trouble controlling my sexual urges" fits perfectly though, Tori talks sex all the time and a drunken Steph might have overshared some past stories/information that kicked off their little game. This could tie into a bad breakup with Chuck in a number of different ways she might find embarrassing due to her own past mistakes (cheating), or she may have shared this with Chuck and it turned out very badly so now she wants to keep it a secret from her lovers for fear of losing them. It also explains why Tori might want to get Steph alone, she would know that Steph is working hard to mask this secret from the MC and behaves differently when he's around as a result. She's both trying to "help" Steph relieve this stress/rediscover her sexual nature and gets to benefit by seeing (or hearing the stories) of her true nympho self in action.

I think that is what it will be or close to it. To be blunt, It will piss me off if it is. Its not a 'big reveal' its a nothing. While I think you're right, I hope you are wrong.

 

[Nurikabe]

The devs seem to be consistent in their attempts to increase the render density and add or improve animations. It has been the priority for several updates and continues to be the priority. While I am anxious to see new content and see where this train (bad choice of word) is going, this is the time to do that, while it is still in development. I wonder if this is in response to comments suggesting that there are not enough renders/animations, or if it is purely a desire of the devs.

"Untying" the endings makes sense and really should be a priority. As it stands, the four paths collapse and choices made prior to the Jason/Tori scene mean less than they should. At least, there should be more diversity than a high-confidence/low-confidence/ignore result.

Along the lines of untying the four paths, is the 'returning to a tougher low-confidence path.' Typical that there is not much elaboration or deciphering of the code the dev speaks in here. Does it refer to making it tougher to achieve? Does it mean that it is more brutal and a return to the 'Donny Train' type of scene? Once again, I do not play this path so I cannot argue either side. However, I am fairly confident that it involves Jason dominating Steph on the extreme end of the path.

Steph having difficulty controlling her urges and behavior when faced with a dominant and aggressive partner is about the only explanation for 'the secret' that makes sense. It addresses worrisome behavior that we have already seen in the game, is embarrassing enough that it will likely not be brought up to her husband as it "no longer applies," but is not damaging enough to harm the marriage by not sharing it. It is entirely imaginable that Tori hears that and sees an opportunity to "set Steph free." Which can vary from an honest open relationship that includes her husband to being a submissive slut that restricts her husband to watching, to stay in line with the confidence-based paths. While we still don't have a clue where this secret is going, the devs are still banking quite a bit on it.

As a few have mentioned, I don't think we will be moving forward much in the next update. It seems that the focus is still on "improving" existing content and unraveling the mess of code at the end of the Tori/Jason scene. But hey! Any update is a step forward, right?