The next update I'm not sure. It's either a bigger update then recently including Steph's Secret, business trip with 2 new male characters. I think Tori Jason 2nd scene was supposed to happen before the trip as well, A new scene with Gina...what is the update about?
You have the same info as us, if you read this post: https://f95zone.to/threads/another-mans-wife-v1-07d-too-perilous.164483/post-12342933what is the update about?
MC is suppose to meet with Tori the next night. I haven't seen anything about it in the Dev comments so not sure if that will go ahead or not.The next update I'm not sure. It's either a bigger update then recently including Steph's Secret, business trip with 2 new male characters. I think Tori Jason 2nd scene was supposed to happen before the trip as well, A new scene with Gina...
or just like the previous ones some small changes to Tori Jason visit again and maybe another scene afterwards?
I'm expecting the later one unfortunately
I'm sure that this game will have a path somewhat similar to thisI'm a simple man I just want Tori, Gina & Steph to all cuck me at the same time
It would be a triple cuckolding
But just so everyone knows I would want to be there cheering the girls on and holding their hands
Also I want all three to get pregnant so I can be a daddy three times
The best theory I have (though I know it's been soft-denied by the authors already) is that Steph's secret has something to do with nymphomania or a similar sex-related condition. It has to be something that's light enough to be accidentally dropped at an office party to Tori, and complicated enough that Steph would never have shared it with the MC due to a feared reaction. I don't think a very traumatic event like a hard r story or secret past marriage is going to come up at an office party, and there isn't a lot of reason to hide that from the MC. I think "I have trouble controlling my sexual urges" fits perfectly though, Tori talks sex all the time and a drunken Steph might have overshared some past stories/information that kicked off their little game. This could tie into a bad breakup with Chuck in a number of different ways she might find embarrassing due to her own past mistakes (cheating), or she may have shared this with Chuck and it turned out very badly so now she wants to keep it a secret from her lovers for fear of losing them. It also explains why Tori might want to get Steph alone, she would know that Steph is working hard to mask this secret from the MC and behaves differently when he's around as a result. She's both trying to "help" Steph relieve this stress/rediscover her sexual nature and gets to benefit by seeing (or hearing the stories) of her true nympho self in action.Another mystery to me is why the MC/Steph/Tori/Jason would not just swing with the MC onboard instead of this splitting the couple up shit.
I think that is what it will be or close to it. To be blunt, It will piss me off if it is. Its not a 'big reveal' its a nothing. While I think you're right, I hope you are wrong.The best theory I have (though I know it's been soft-denied by the authors already) is that Steph's secret has something to do with nymphomania or a similar sex-related condition. It has to be something that's light enough to be accidentally dropped at an office party to Tori, and complicated enough that Steph would never have shared it with the MC due to a feared reaction. I don't think a very traumatic event like a hard r story or secret past marriage is going to come up at an office party, and there isn't a lot of reason to hide that from the MC. I think "I have trouble controlling my sexual urges" fits perfectly though, Tori talks sex all the time and a drunken Steph might have overshared some past stories/information that kicked off their little game. This could tie into a bad breakup with Chuck in a number of different ways she might find embarrassing due to her own past mistakes (cheating), or she may have shared this with Chuck and it turned out very badly so now she wants to keep it a secret from her lovers for fear of losing them. It also explains why Tori might want to get Steph alone, she would know that Steph is working hard to mask this secret from the MC and behaves differently when he's around as a result. She's both trying to "help" Steph relieve this stress/rediscover her sexual nature and gets to benefit by seeing (or hearing the stories) of her true nympho self in action.
You're probably right, but im still holding on to my old predictions thread answer of something having to do with her ex bf which will inevitably somehow involve dining at the church of bbc. How? I've no idea. Just a feeling.The best theory I have (though I know it's been soft-denied by the authors already) is that Steph's secret has something to do with nymphomania or a similar sex-related condition. It has to be something that's light enough to be accidentally dropped at an office party to Tori, and complicated enough that Steph would never have shared it with the MC due to a feared reaction. I don't think a very traumatic event like a hard r story or secret past marriage is going to come up at an office party, and there isn't a lot of reason to hide that from the MC. I think "I have trouble controlling my sexual urges" fits perfectly though, Tori talks sex all the time and a drunken Steph might have overshared some past stories/information that kicked off their little game. This could tie into a bad breakup with Chuck in a number of different ways she might find embarrassing due to her own past mistakes (cheating), or she may have shared this with Chuck and it turned out very badly so now she wants to keep it a secret from her lovers for fear of losing them. It also explains why Tori might want to get Steph alone, she would know that Steph is working hard to mask this secret from the MC and behaves differently when he's around as a result. She's both trying to "help" Steph relieve this stress/rediscover her sexual nature and gets to benefit by seeing (or hearing the stories) of her true nympho self in action.
There are probably a number of other possibilities, but I've racked my brain and read all the chats here and in Steam because I really do enjoy this story and have treated it like a little mystery. Nothing else that's occurred to me fits the story and character behavior patterns as well as that theory, though. I love loyal wife swing/share stories so knowing that's what the authors are confirmed to be targeting has kept me on the hook.To be blunt, It will piss me off if it is. Its not a 'big reveal' its a nothing.
Imagine trying to explain to a psychiatrist how your PTSD trigger is a glass of water.Also if I was the MC and I had the dream about Steph having sex with Donny behind my back, wake up and it was just a dream... I would be pulling the brakes on this whole thing so fast, we are clearly not in the right space for this.
Right?I'm not really sure what kind of secret Steph could have that would not make me dislike her.
the Dev keeps rewriting the one scene hoping it will solve this issue, but when you don't trust the words out of Steph, Tori, or Jason's mouth then no rewriting will fix it. you need to change their actions leading into the scene.
I love loyal wife stories as well and that's what attracted me to this game, a couple exploring their sexuality together, only the whole thing is a deception. They started together and now it looks like its all solo from here on out. Your points are valid and hope its a different explanation we are missing.There are probably a number of other possibilities, but I've racked my brain and read all the chats here and in Steam because I really do enjoy this story and have treated it like a little mystery. Nothing else that's occurred to me fits the story and character behavior patterns as well as that theory, though. I love loyal wife swing/share stories so knowing that's what the authors are confirmed to be targeting has kept me on the hook.
Assuming nymphomania to be true, I'd be mad at Steph and Tori because (as the dev has admitted) they're going about this in a very dangerous and irresponsible way. The blame for all of the game's relationship distrust would ultimately lie at their feet, because they could have just brought the MC to that lunch and talked like responsible adults in the first place (but then we wouldn't have a game, or at least not the central conflict these authors wanted to write about). MC clearly would have been on board for swinging and Steph could have gone full she-hulk during sex like she seems to crave, with MC cheering her on. She just doesn't see that possibility in the early story (probably because of something Chuck did in the past).
Much of Steph's characterization changes if we assume she's a nympho. Her behavior makes more sense and is less offensive with her condition known. Given how the MC is really driven by a desire to sleep with Tori on many of the routes and may try to push his wife secretly into the lifestyle (he can be very dishonest as well), I would now be much less mad at Steph for what she did with Donny on those routes. The MC should have been informed of her condition, but the reader now knows he left a drunk nympho wife alone in a house with an alpha chad she's attracted to with the promise of returning home soon for sex. Then he has a 20min chat with Gina... yeah, I get how she would lose control in that scenario where a "normal" wife probably would have sat in the living room and waited for hubby. It still doesn't make the stuff she does the next day if you don't invite Donny make sense to me, though. Like breaking her agreement with MC by inviting Donny directly to the house for sex and then getting mad/threatening to call off all of their experimentation if MC is uncomfortable because she doesn't want to disappoint her new bull. Nymphomania doesn't cause that behavior, being a selfish, insensitive, and dishonest person does. So there still might be a different explanation we're missing!
100% agree here, under most circumstances and with traditional wives. I feel Perfect Housewife falls into this category, where that game's Stef has basically stopped having intercourse with her husband and it bugs me out. I can't happily self-insert in that game. In this story, I could see Steph being so reluctant to give in to her sexual impulses (probably tied to something with the Chuck relationship failing) that she is actually afraid to indulge in these feelings under normal circumstances.The one person wives should be honest with, and able to let go in the bedroom with, is their husband. Not hold it all back for some guy in a bar.
I should rephrase where I described Steph's behavior as "less offensive" to more accurately call it "easier to understand." Some of the Donny decisions confuse the hell out of me if she's not a nympho. The audience will likely be split on reactions to her secret, which the devs mentioned expecting. I often agree with your takes on these forums but I would fall on the opposite side of this decision. Nymphomania wouldn't stop me from working on building a relationship with someone, and if I trusted a person I would marry them knowing they had the condition.Assuming you are right and is nymphomania or similar. I would ask the question, if a guy was told his wife was a nympho from the start would he have married her? Not likely.
I'll give it up, no options. The reason is disbelief in fidelity and nymphomania. Such issues are resolved on the shore, before the wedding, the rest is betrayal. Love just means the absence of lies in a relationship, even without the fact of marriage. He who betrayed once, will always betray. The fidelity of a nymphomaniac is an absurdity or a fairy tale. Where did Steph blow off steam for four years without MS noticing nymphomania? How do you plan to solve the problem of your wife’s high need for sex, without the help of your neighbors? Dildos and vibrators won't help. As an example, I will give the “stop-intim” tablets that some animal owners use. When using tablets, the period between phases in an animal is much shorter than after mating.Let's do a similar thought experiment. Assume the MC (and by proxy you) have the benefit of foresight through the developers statements that Steph truly loves you and only you and will be forever faithful. You find out she lied about being a nymphomaniac but felt terrible about it, she comes clean, and says she just wants you in her life no matter what your future sex life holds. Do you leave her, resume a traditional marriage, or restart the swing thing again with the benefit of foresight, as if you and her went out to that lunch with Tori? Is it the nymphomania itself that would lead you to say "no," or the fact that you know she is willing to deceive a partner?
Damn you have been hanging out with Nurikabe I'm sure of it . That is a huge compliment by the way. I pretty much agree with all of your post and I don't think I can add too much. I just want to address one thing and then answer your end questions.100% agree here, under most circumstances and with traditional wives. I feel Perfect Housewife falls into this category, where that game's Stef has basically stopped having intercourse with her husband and it bugs me out. I can't happily self-insert in that game. In this story, I could see Steph being so reluctant to give in to her sexual impulses (probably tied to something with the Chuck relationship failing) that she is actually afraid to indulge in these feelings under normal circumstances.
For their first 3 years of marriage, Steph thought she had "solved" her "problem" by carefully controlling herself. When MC pushes her into the lifestyle and then encourages her to indulge at the start of the game, she lets herself go and we see glimpses of her wild side. She no longer feels guilty about being a nympho because she now knows her partner is cool with it, and we see that switch flip. They openly communicate. Steph is pretty wild with MC too once she gets going, even after what she does with Donny it's the MC loving it that really gets her off. She's also no sub-slut, she is using Donny and happy to push him off her / kick him out of the house as soon as she feels (or realizes) he isn't serving her and MC's interests. I do think it's a little off putting how hard she pushes for the lifestyle on some of the low-C/low-D routes, but it's not like she stops touching her husband (usually a feature of this sub-slut wife trope).
I think Steph's main goal is to share her uninhibited side with the MC, in controlled environments and slowly, because opening up like this ruined an important relationship in the past. She doesn't want to see history repeat itself with the man she currently (and genuinely) loves and relies on. She does make bad decisions along the way, but MC does as well (both being swayed by desire). Remember, the devs said that there's a reason Steph's behavior is starting to change now rather than over the previous 3 years: Tori AND the MC's influence. Tori is the main push and likely who kicked this whole thing off, but if the MC doesn't push as well then the game ends. Whether the devs take Steph down a road of solo adventures is yet to be seen, but I hope they will give players a choice to keep the MC involved in each of her adventures. If she goes full solo slut ASAP like many other games, then a lot of this theory falls apart. I don't think this will happen though, given how the authors are spending time adding bits like Steph looking up to MC to make sure he's watching her and having a good time during scenes with Donny and Jason, etc.
I should rephrase where I described Steph's behavior as "less offensive" to more accurately call it "easier to understand." Some of the Donny decisions confuse the hell out of me if she's not a nympho. The audience will likely be split on reactions to her secret, which the devs mentioned expecting. I often agree with your takes on these forums but I would fall on the opposite side of this decision. Nymphomania wouldn't stop me from working on building a relationship with someone, and if I trusted a person I would marry them knowing they had the condition.
Honesty in a relationship is huge for me, but it's specifically malicious and manipulative dishonesty that I hate the most. I can see Steph hiding nymphomania when she met MC due to past trauma or bad relationship experiences that led her to be resentful and/or fearful of her condition (self-loathing). She met MC and he pulled her out of the fallout of that experience, and she hasn't really had to address the problem again until now. Tori then kicks the whole thing off when she finds out, sets up a lunch to talk it over, and Steph decides she'll let Tori and Jason tempt MC with Tori to see how he feels/reacts to the option (honestly a fair approach, if a bit deceptive). It's important to note that ultimately Steph cancels the whole thing and is happy to live as a faithful duo with MC unless he pushes for the lifestyle. It's odd, because with our different perspectives you would feel she trapped you in a marriage while I wouldn't feel quite as duped. If it is a hidden nympho secret, she'd get a "you should have just told me, dummy" from me and a "you've wasted 4 years of my life on a lie" from you - and I'm sure a whole range of split reactions from the rest of the audience! Perhaps Steph was right to keep it hidden once she realized she loved the MC - it's a dishonest approach but she was correct in fearing the reaction; she really would have lost some of you by revealing it! That makes it a kind of interesting secret to me, but I can see why some would find it blasé given the more extreme theories floating around.
What the secret is, and the discussions between the MC and FMC about it, will have an interesting final impact on how I interpret character motivations and judge them. To give a satisfying ending to some of the audience, the devs may need to bite the bullet and just write in a "this was too big a lie and we need to break up" ending. I appreciate little things like that in a story, even if it's only for a handful of readers and not canon, like in Only Her when they show the wife is willing to mukduk the NTR boss if her hubby doesn't like sharing. It was a 4 image / 25 line addition to the script that completely altered how I viewed the wife (for the better) and made me fall in love with the game.
Let's do a similar thought experiment. Assume the MC (and by proxy you) have the benefit of foresight through the developers statements that Steph truly loves you and only you and will be forever faithful. You find out she lied about being a nymphomaniac but felt terrible about it, she comes clean, and says she just wants you in her life no matter what your future sex life holds. Do you leave her, resume a traditional marriage, or restart the swing thing again with the benefit of foresight, as if you and her went out to that lunch with Tori? Is it the nymphomania itself that would lead you to say "no," or the fact that you know she is willing to deceive a partner?