VN Ren'Py Abandoned Another Man's Wife [v1.092] [Too Perilous]

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Dev post from Steam in response to the question will there be a pure cuck path? Since there were some asking about it:



First of all, thanks for the comments and support. I appreciate you taking the time to say that. Also there is a walkthrough of sorts in the General Discussion area that I wrote.

Look for "Play guide - Spoilers"

I'll need to update that guide soon, but a fair number of people have found it helpful. Yes, it can help you find that scene with Paul, but no there isn't more to it. Just when given the chance, don't go back to Gina. Of course all of that is close enough together that you can play it one way, back it up and play it another and see what happens with Gina if you stay or go back to her.

As to your question, I wouldn't say there will be a pure path but there is certainly one that has more of it. In fact, part of what I did this week was to better isolate that path and how a player ends up on it (Now it has to do with choices and saying "Yes, I want to watch." rather than the confidence system.) There are two Friday night scenes that lead to watching, and it wouldn't take much to create a third because the content is already there, I just have to change the MC reaction. Anyway, by isolating it this way, I can create some different stuff in time.

Going back to your comment on the Paul scene, If I created that third path to earning watcher status, it would make it possible for me to add content to that Paul scene as a "Watcher event" and that content would not be available through any other path. For everyone else, the scene would happen just as it does now.

And of course, there would be other opportunities for "Watcher events" to trigger in the future as independent scenes or augment what is already happening in a scene like my example above.

So I wouldn't say I am working on a pure path (If I said anything in this game was pure, I'd catch hell for eternity.), but I am working on a weighted path. And separating that path like that helped to give something else added weight.

 

[BangB420]

Man just let the dev do their NTR game and leave them alone, always the fucking complainers ruining dev's original vision

 

[m4pII]

Man just let the dev do their NTR game and leave them alone, always the fucking complainers ruining dev's original vision

With all due respect to the devs, but considering that they have already rewritten the game about 3 times, something is wrong with their original vision.

 

[BangB420]

With all due respect to the devs, but considering that they have already rewritten the game about 3 times, something is wrong with their original vision.

Geee i wonder why they would be rewriting when random ass people are shouting at them about their game over steam and discord all the time

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Man just let the dev do their NTR game and leave them alone, always the fucking complainers ruining dev's original vision

What are you talking about? NO ONE mentioned NTR. Where is there a complaint about NTR? If you are referring about my post, those words are the DEVELOPERS words not mine discussing what he is doing with a cuck path. Cuck does not automatically = NTR. If you are going to have a go at people do it for something that actually did.

 

[m4pII]

Geee i wonder why they would be rewriting when random ass people are shouting at them about their game over steam and discord all the time

This is a common thing when you release a game in early access.
But it's one thing to fix dialogue and animation, and another to rewrite all the routes in every update.

And here no one has ever complained about NTR. The discussion is mostly about characters.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Man just let the dev do their NTR game and leave them alone, always the fucking complainers ruining dev's original vision

*Raises hand with a smirk*

I often mention NTR - because this isn't marketed as an NTR game. Indeed, if it were, I think it would be a lot more transparent and honest.

Consider - for the first few weeks after release this never had an NTR tag, only a swinging tag; which at the time was fairly accurate (barring the train path).

But genuinely, I don't think NTR purists would like this game, they to dislike stuff where the husband/bf plays an active role and enjoys the LIs sexcapades. ofc never say never, the dev's ever-changing trajectory could yet bear fruit for them!

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

*Raises hand with a smirk*

I often mention NTR - because this isn't marketed as an NTR game. Indeed, if it were, I think it would be a lot more transparent and honest.

Consider - for the first few weeks after release this never had an NTR tag, only a swinging tag; which at the time was fairly accurate (barring the train path).

But genuinely, I don't think NTR purists would like this game, they to dislike stuff where the husband/bf plays an active role and enjoys the LIs sexcapades. ofc never say never, the dev's ever-changing trajectory could yet bear fruit for them!

I have contact F95 and asked for the NTR tag to be removed as it doesn't apply and explained NTR was removed blah blah. I'm not sure if I have contacted the right person or if I can even to that, but they will let me know I'm sure. I thought it was worth a message rather than sit through ntr v anti-ntr flame war when it is irrelevant to the game.

 

[Nafig]

I have contact F95 and asked for the NTR tag to be removed as it doesn't apply and explained NTR was removed blah blah. I'm not sure if I have contacted the right person or if I can even to that, but they will let me know I'm sure. I thought it was worth a message rather than sit through ntr v anti-ntr flame war when it is irrelevant to the game.

I'm a pessimist. Too many breadcrumbs per ntr.
1. Introduction, we are immediately told to do everything as Steph says or “game over”.
2. Prologue. “Best Friend” suggests: “Let’s fuck my wife (in reality, yours)” is also the plot of ntr.
3. Evening at home/bar. , Steph is ready to kill MC for the idea of MC+Tori+Jason, but a minute later he’s already attacking Donny.
4. At the beginning of the evening in the bar, the illusion is created that the MC is in control, but then it is shattered. On the LC route, Steph fucks Donny without waiting for MC. On the HC route, MC gets a “glass of water” or Steph will kick MC and Gina out. Or we get an event where Steph herself calls Donny, even if the MC asks not to invite him. It speaks very colorfully about her attitude towards MS. Any attempt to object is “game over”.
5. Club. Amber only Steph permissions. If Steph invites Donny home, then MC+Amber is on the rug under the stairs (figuratively) in the club. This shows who is boss in the house.
6. We were allowed to steer the “PAUL” event because it simply fills a plot void. If you throw it away, nothing will change. Throw dust in the eyes of the players.
7. Evening Tori/Jason. Steph is completely uncontrollable. Before the Tori/Jason meeting, MC chooses “talk only” and “don’t undress” but Steph doesn’t care about MC’s opinion, we see striptease first, then sex. We get the Steph/Jason sex scene during the MC/Tori conversation. I'm wondering if Steph and Jason were standing outside the door listening? How else can you explain that a phrase in a conversation allowed sex for Steph and Jason, who were not participating in it? There is a “stop word” gag, but it only causes laughter. Steph has gone beyond “no naked”, Steph has gone beyond “talking only” and I am supposed to believe that a “safe word” will stop her? My slippers burst from laughter.
8. Names of scenes in the game script, many “answer options”, but in reality empty dialogues leading to the same scene. All this screams: “MS doesn’t control anything.” I'm not against different routes, the taste and color of all markers are different, but if the route is called “HC” the player should feel it.
9. For comparison, I advise you to try the game “Babysitters”. In the language of this game, there are two routes in “Babysitters”: HC and LC. On the HC route, the scene in the club is completely controlled, the MC's wife refuses sex without the MC's presence, she refuses it herself. Let's compare Steph/Donny to a "glass of water" or when she kicks out the MC. On the LC route the event is also manageable, excluding blowjob Tyrone (LC route), but sex is only with the MC. As they say: “find ten differences.” A story of love and a happy marriage? Love here has only one gate.
10. Regarding the issue of the receipt and the telephone conversation, I do not believe the author. He's already lied a lot. I believe more that the players correctly assessed them and this caused them a negative reaction. We have a “story of love and a happy marriage.” To bring down the wave of negativity, the author simply cut off the ends, saying that these events do not mean anything. How to check?
Too many breadcrumbs leading to ntr.
For those who are worried about ntr, our discussion is not against ntr. We are not against different routes, everyone has their own cockroaches in their heads. We want a swing route with real HC where the player controls the situation and Steph, (see Babysitters). Now MC HC is on the route with a rag on which Steph wipes his feet. The route that the author promises from the release of the game. We want a logical development of the story. If the author writes, “MC is wearing pants,” then on the next page, MC should be wearing pants. There are a lot of inconsistencies in the game right now.

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

May be it is a planned tag, you'll never now until it happens. It would be a nice surprise if sth out of the blue happens like in rl when for example a meeting/trip or something else gets cancelled and you have to decide what to do for the rest of the time. Either to go back to work, meet someone else or go home...

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

May be it is a planned tag, you'll never now until it happens. It would be a nice surprise if sth out of the blue happens like in rl when for example a meeting/trip or something else gets cancelled and you have to decide what to do for the rest of the time. Either to go back to work, meet someone else or go home...

According to the devs it isn't. If it happens I will personally get the tag put back on if I can even get it taken off in the first place. As it stands now this isn't an NTR game. I like this page and I don't want to see it turn in to a shit pile of NTR arguments like it has today and the way so many other threads have gone, when it isn't even part of the game. If it goes NTR that's fine, hopefully it will go the NTR route I like to play.

 

[McZoy]

Hi, I would like to ask what is the name of the save file. Any help?

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I'm a pessimist. Too many breadcrumbs per ntr.
1. Introduction, we are immediately told to do everything as Steph says or “game over”.
2. Prologue. “Best Friend” suggests: “Let’s fuck my wife (in reality, yours)” is also the plot of ntr.
3. Evening at home/bar. , Steph is ready to kill MC for the idea of MC+Tori+Jason, but a minute later he’s already attacking Donny.
4. At the beginning of the evening in the bar, the illusion is created that the MC is in control, but then it is shattered. On the LC route, Steph fucks Donny without waiting for MC. On the HC route, MC gets a “glass of water” or Steph will kick MC and Gina out. Or we get an event where Steph herself calls Donny, even if the MC asks not to invite him. It speaks very colorfully about her attitude towards MS. Any attempt to object is “game over”.
5. Club. Amber only Steph permissions. If Steph invites Donny home, then MC+Amber is on the rug under the stairs (figuratively) in the club. This shows who is boss in the house.
6. We were allowed to steer the “PAUL” event because it simply fills a plot void. If you throw it away, nothing will change. Throw dust in the eyes of the players.
7. Evening Tori/Jason. Steph is completely uncontrollable. Before the Tori/Jason meeting, MC chooses “talk only” and “don’t undress” but Steph doesn’t care about MC’s opinion, we see striptease first, then sex. We get the Steph/Jason sex scene during the MC/Tori conversation. I'm wondering if Steph and Jason were standing outside the door listening? How else can you explain that a phrase in a conversation allowed sex for Steph and Jason, who were not participating in it? There is a “stop word” gag, but it only causes laughter. Steph has gone beyond “no naked”, Steph has gone beyond “talking only” and I am supposed to believe that a “safe word” will stop her? My slippers burst from laughter.
8. Names of scenes in the game script, many “answer options”, but in reality empty dialogues leading to the same scene. All this screams: “MS doesn’t control anything.” I'm not against different routes, the taste and color of all markers are different, but if the route is called “HC” the player should feel it.
9. For comparison, I advise you to try the game “Babysitters”. In the language of this game, there are two routes in “Babysitters”: HC and LC. On the HC route, the scene in the club is completely controlled, the MC's wife refuses sex without the MC's presence, she refuses it herself. Let's compare Steph/Donny to a "glass of water" or when she kicks out the MC. On the LC route the event is also manageable, excluding blowjob Tyrone (LC route), but sex is only with the MC. As they say: “find ten differences.” A story of love and a happy marriage? Love here has only one gate.
10. Regarding the issue of the receipt and the telephone conversation, I do not believe the author. He's already lied a lot. I believe more that the players correctly assessed them and this caused them a negative reaction. We have a “story of love and a happy marriage.” To bring down the wave of negativity, the author simply cut off the ends, saying that these events do not mean anything. How to check?
Too many breadcrumbs leading to ntr.
For those who are worried about ntr, our discussion is not against ntr. We are not against different routes, everyone has their own cockroaches in their heads. We want a swing route with real HC where the player controls the situation and Steph, (see Babysitters). Now MC HC is on the route with a rag on which Steph wipes his feet. The route that the author promises from the release of the game. We want a logical development of the story. If the author writes, “MC is wearing pants,” then on the next page, MC should be wearing pants. There are a lot of inconsistencies in the game right now.

I agree with all your ten points. Not much I can add that hasn't already been said before.

I am less worried about NTR than I am this thread being turn in to a shit fight over something that may or may never happen. We have a lot of fun on this page at times. For some bizarre reason I don't care to understand, morons on both side of the NTR fence lose their heads when NTR is brought up.

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

Hi, I would like to ask what is the name of the save file. Any help?

If you ask for the save file folder in

• windows: "%AppData\Roaming\RenPy\"
• mac: "$HOME/Library/RenPy/"
• linux: "$HOME/.renpy/"

it's called "OptionTrading-1662318409"

 

[McZoy]

If you ask for the save file folder in

• windows: "%AppData\Roaming\RenPy\"
• mac: "$HOME/Library/RenPy/"
• linux: "$HOME/.renpy/"

it's called "OptionTrading-1662318409"

Many thanks for your prompt response. Kind regards

 

[Ozygator]

NTR haters hating on NTR threads

Eh, this is suppossed to be a game where NTR is not the only route and the couple can swing, not jus tthe wife fuck every guy she wants. So no, this is not an "NTR thread", unless the dev has been lying this entire time.

 

[Ozygator]

Man just let the dev do their NTR game and leave them alone, always the fucking complainers ruining dev's original vision

How about you stop trying to pidgeon hole a game to what YOU want it to be? Other players have the right to voice their disgust at what the dev tried to promote the game as, and then turned it into something completely different. There is a NTR path, just pick low condifence.

 

[Ozygator]

So, question. Not having played the game since the first release, and not playing the 1.07 version it seems a lot has changed. Reading back 10 pages or so on the forum, I see a lot of people have some of the same questions I did when replaying the game.

1. Where is the MC either controlling the action or BOTH people in the relationship actually setting boundaries and abiding by them?
2. There's been a few mentions of a "big secret" related to Steph, apparently mental health issues.. What if she is a nympho and has been fucking all the clients at her company? It's kept hidden because it would cause a negative perception, but she apparently is some major 'presenter' or 'deal closer' and that 'secret' would fit pretty well with that.
3. Anyone thought that if this is some giant conspiracy against a basically cuck/beta MC (even on HC route he still doesn't do shit to stop things he should or would not tolerate Steph doing) to leave him holding the bag for some sort of fraud/money laundering? I mean Jason 'found' these things and pointed them out to the MC, the MC has been investigating, i.e. planting his electronic fingerprints all over the data related to this. If the scheme was as large as implied in the story, with hundreds of accounts with millions in each one, they could give up a fraction of the fake business and put the MC under the jail and then they keep on operating like they have.
4. Has there been any indication of what Tori does for a job? How do we know that Tori and Steph haven't met well before the holiday party? Could they be working together to 'seal the deal' with all this other stuff Jason initially brought up, Steph finally get tired of living the 'dull married life' and moving on, etc.
5. I agree with the sentiment, Sterph is definitely driving the situaiton and the MC is playing the cuck route for the most part. This reminds me of another game with supposed 'swinging' and really just another slut-wife story where the woman initiates the dumbass MC into agreeing with her having an open marriage so she can fuck everyone else. In case anyone interested that's Perfect Housewife (when she's anything but, and another female character whose name starts with an 's').
6. One of the dialogues was that Steph was afraid that one day the MC would see her not as the mother of his kids but a sluit, well she's already proven herself to BE a slut, regardless of what the idiot MC says, so that's amusing.
7. Anyone have the odds, or over/under, on the bet tyhat Steph has already been cheating on the MC, just had been hiding it well?
8. It was also amusing in the game that ther supposed 'love sex' was pretty tame, and Streph had a decidedly DIFFERENT view on how she acted with that than the raw fucking she did. So congrats to the MC, you basically get "friend-zone" vanilla boring sex, while she get's her animalistic, cum so hard her eyes roll back, and fuck all the guys she wants BUT you type sex with all the OTHER guys.

Anyone notice in the Tori story where she says that her husband used the film of her "fucking 4 guys" and used it against her? Notice that her husband was NOT ONE OF the 4 guys? So she basically has all this sex with everyone except her husband because the hubby is boring and bland. I expect the story to go the same way with Steph and her turn into a true 'secret-slut' or 'slut-wife' just like all the other games that supposedlyt have swinging and end up mostly beta/cuck.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

So, question. Not having played the game since the first release, and not playing the 1.07 version it seems a lot has changed. Reading back 10 pages or so on the forum, I see a lot of people have some of the same questions I did when replaying the game.

1. Where is the MC either controlling the action or BOTH people in the relationship actually setting boundaries and abiding by them?
2. There's been a few mentions of a "big secret" related to Steph, apparently mental health issues.. What if she is a nympho and has been fucking all the clients at her company? It's kept hidden because it would cause a negative perception, but she apparently is some major 'presenter' or 'deal closer' and that 'secret' would fit pretty well with that.
3. Anyone thought that if this is some giant conspiracy against a basically cuck/beta MC (even on HC route he still doesn't do shit to stop things he should or would not tolerate Steph doing) to leave him holding the bag for some sort of fraud/money laundering? I mean Jason 'found' these things and pointed them out to the MC, the MC has been investigating, i.e. planting his electronic fingerprints all over the data related to this. If the scheme was as large as implied in the story, with hundreds of accounts with millions in each one, they could give up a fraction of the fake business and put the MC under the jail and then they keep on operating like they have.
4. Has there been any indication of what Tori does for a job? How do we know that Tori and Steph haven't met well before the holiday party? Could they be working together to 'seal the deal' with all this other stuff Jason initially brought up, Steph finally get tired of living the 'dull married life' and moving on, etc.
5. I agree with the sentiment, Sterph is definitely driving the situaiton and the MC is playing the cuck route for the most part. This reminds me of another game with supposed 'swinging' and really just another slut-wife story where the woman initiates the dumbass MC into agreeing with her having an open marriage so she can fuck everyone else. In case anyone interested that's Perfect Housewife (when she's anything but, and another female character whose name starts with an 's').
6. One of the dialogues was that Steph was afraid that one day the MC would see her not as the mother of his kids but a sluit, well she's already proven herself to BE a slut, regardless of what the idiot MC says, so that's amusing.
7. Anyone have the odds, or over/under, on the bet tyhat Steph has already been cheating on the MC, just had been hiding it well?
8. It was also amusing in the game that ther supposed 'love sex' was pretty tame, and Streph had a decidedly DIFFERENT view on how she acted with that than the raw fucking she did. So congrats to the MC, you basically get "friend-zone" vanilla boring sex, while she get's her animalistic, cum so hard her eyes roll back, and fuck all the guys she wants BUT you type sex with all the OTHER guys.

Anyone notice in the Tori story where she says that her husband used the film of her "fucking 4 guys" and used it against her? Notice that her husband was NOT ONE OF the 4 guys? So she basically has all this sex with everyone except her husband because the hubby is boring and bland. I expect the story to go the same way with Steph and her turn into a true 'secret-slut' or 'slut-wife' just like all the other games that supposedlyt have swinging and end up mostly beta/cuck.

Nice post and yeah a lot has changed since the original release. According to the dev there are a lot more changes to come. I'm a bit mystified as to why the dev didn't go with a completed story and a set vision, but he seems to enjoy messing with everyone.

1. MC stays in the boundaries, Steph doesn't. On the HC (High Confidence) route she does most of the time.
2. That is as good a theory as I have heard. Only the dev has said she isn't cheating. It looks like she is to many of us, but apparently not. There is a small update next and then apparently the big secret will be revealed.
3. Interesting theory, I like it. The dev hasn't done much with that story line. I think it wont be resolved in this game but will arc across the future games they have planned.
4. Tori works in HR. It is quite possible they have. The dev said it links back to the Christmas party. I assume it all started there but they could have known each before that. Steph wanted more for sure as from her masturbation scene where she was thinking about a 3some.
5. Yep Steph rules the roost. On HC the MC/player is suppose to get more say and Steph is suppose to obey him. We shall see, its not in her character to obey but that is what the dev said.
6. Completely agree. I think from the sister's visit, Steph settled for him to get out of a bad situation and hence why she has no respect for her husband but that is just a personal theory.
7. It certainly looks that way. The dev said no she is not cheating. He wants to do the LC path close to cheating but not cheating but the LC path will definitely be in cuck territory, but the dev seems adamant about some thing and changeable on others..
8. Yep, hence why I say she settled. Sex is normal sex with MC but cant control herself with assholes (Donny and Jason). In real life it happens a hell of a lot. Guys think they are in a great marriage and get blindsided discovering their wife loses her heads during sex with some low life she is have an affair with and doing things she would never do with her husband.

Tori has those plans for sure. She says she wants to be protective but that is bullshit as soon as she starts talking about MC being left out and pushing Steph's boundaries, she isn't looking to help anyone but her own perversions. It isn't looking like a swinging game at the moment, but who knows with this dev, he changes the narrative a lot. I think Steph will go all out slut in the next game of the story, but probably not this one.

Thanks for your sharing your insights, you have some interesting ones and most of your insights mirror most of us.

 

[D2taA]

The chic in the bathroom, at the club Saturday night. Didn't the wife say on Friday night that Tori had a pair high heel boots, so is that Tori and Jason in the bathroom stall. Something else I thought about is the Saturday night dream sequence, what if was real and not just a dream. Most dreams don't drink a 5th of vodka that you bought that afternoon.