VN Ren'Py Abandoned Another Man's Wife [v1.092] [Too Perilous]

[NewTricks]

The low-confidence/high voyeurism route has its moments, but to get there you need to carefully balance which high-confidence decisions you want to mix in with your low-confidence shit show. You get pretty funny results.

Spoiler: Call the cardiologist

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Spoiler: What a show

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After playing both high-confidence and low-confidence runs it does seem like Steph is the driving force behind the entire enterprise and your high confidence or low confidence seems to only indicate how on board you are with the journey and how much you are able to influence it in your own favor. Being reluctant doesn't seem like it is to your benefit but in some ways she does appreciate that in the low confidence MC. Maybe even more than the brashness of the high-confidence MC. Being a pussy gives you no points with the other girls, though.

Edit: Some more of what I'm talking about

Spoiler: Unintentionally hilarious... ouch.

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Spoiler: Steph appreciates the low confidence MC's restraint

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Spoiler: On talking about his bashful voyeurism

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[Pr0GamerJohnny]

The low-confidence/high voyeurism route has its moments, but to get there you need to carefully balance which high-confidence decisions you want to mix in with your low-confidence shit show. You get pretty funny results.

Spoiler: Call the cardiologist

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Spoiler: What a show

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After playing both high-confidence and low-confidence runs it does seem like Steph is the driving force behind the entire enterprise and your high confidence or low confidence seems to only indicate how on board you are with the journey and how much you are able to influence it in your own favor. Being reluctant doesn't seem like it is to your benefit but in some ways she does appreciate that in the low confidence MC. Maybe even more than the brashness of the high-confidence MC. Being a pussy gives you no points with the other girls, though.

Edit: Some more of what I'm talking about

Spoiler: Unintentionally hilarious... ouch.

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Spoiler: Steph appreciates the low confidence MC's restraint

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Spoiler: On talking about his bashful voyeurism

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Yeah, this was the first way I originally tried to play the game, i.e. "the voyeur with agency", and it's damn difficult. The game seems to railroad you into this narrow spectrum where you're either 'MegaAlphaManPussSlayer' (tho still with strumpet wife oddly) or 'MegaBitchBoyDoormat'. The notion of a personality who would enjoy watching Steph with others guys yet still knock Jason out the instant he found out he was betraying him seems to not exist in the dev's universe.

8. It was also amusing in the game that ther supposed 'love sex' was pretty tame, and Streph had a decidedly DIFFERENT view on how she acted with that than the raw fucking she did. So congrats to the MC, you basically get "friend-zone" vanilla boring sex, while she get's her animalistic, cum so hard her eyes roll back, and fuck all the guys she wants BUT you type sex with all the OTHER guys.

While I totally agree with the rest of your post, I actually disagree with this point. To me, all the sex scenes look pretty vanilla to me, at least visually. I think the dev often tries to compensate with superfluous dialogue during the scenes.

Like as much as I hate the Tori house visit on low/med conf, for all this hyperbolized talk on "zomg Jason is quite the dominant bull" what do we actually see on screen? A fairly vanilla missionary sex scene on a couch. "zomg he'll blow her back out" .....(Vanilla missionary sex intensifies)......

Same with Donnie - the low conf descriptions are written to make it sound humiliating, but since the visuals don't really match, it never had that impact on me. The train route makes it sound like she's emerging from the bedroom with a face drenched in cum, makeup running, but nothing like that actually happens. Supposedly he's facefucking her, but the angle is shot from his rear? So the visual never hits....I get that it's from the mc's perspective, that's why you rotate your actors on the bed by 90° .

btw who does that lol, framing a facefucking porn shot from behind the guy's ass as he's straddling her torso?? reminds me of some of my favorite mocking comments on pornsites, like when they film reverse cowgirl from behind the man and woman, or a blowjob from directly behind the woman's head....some of these devs need to go to porn school 101...

 

[NewTricks]

Yeah, this was the first way I originally tried to play the game, i.e. "the voyeur with agency", and it's damn difficult. The game seems to railroad you into this narrow spectrum where you're either 'MegaAlphaManPussSlayer' (tho still with strumpet wife oddly) or 'MegaBitchBoyDoormat'. The notion of a personality who would enjoy watching Steph with others guys yet still knock Jason out the instant he found out he was betraying him seems to not exist in the dev's universe.

I don't know where the Jason betrayal is, but even on the lowest confidence route possible it gives you two different opportunities to tell Jason not to fuck your wife and if you do so it disables the watching from the stairway scene no matter how high your voyeurism is or how low your confidence. If you tell him anything else during those two opportunities the dialogue basically tells Jason he should follow Steph's lead or that you have put no restrictions on what happens. There are also two opportunities during the conversation with Steph before the visit that will do the same thing. With four chances to pump the breaks and one more chance to tell Steph that her sister is calling in the midst of their tryst there really isn't any betrayal to be had. Where you arrive is the natural end point of your decisions.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I don't know where the Jason betrayal is, but even on the lowest confidence route possible it gives you two different opportunities to tell Jason not to fuck your wife and if you do so it disables the watching from the stairway scene no matter how high your voyeurism is or how low your confidence. If you tell him anything else during those two opportunities the dialogue basically tells Jason he should follow Steph's lead or that you have put no restrictions on what happens. There are also two opportunities during the conversation with Steph before the visit that will do the same thing. With four chances to pump the breaks and one more chance to tell Steph that her sister is calling in the midst of their tryst there really isn't any betrayal to be had. Where you arrive is the natural end point of your decisions.

The sense of betrayal comes from the dev who got frustrated that people thought so lowly of Jason from early versions of the game. Some felt (yes me as well) that Jason was in league with Tori and Steph in deceiving the MC and that Jason just wanted to get access to Steph. 1.07 version came along and some of us still lingered doubts about Jason and Tori.

The dev revealed Jason is not part of the deception, only that he was a messenger to the MC with the 3some invite, but fucked it up some how. No idea how yet. The dev didn't want us to think so poorly of Jason as he isn't part of what's going on behind the scenes.

The future of these games is based around Jason, Tori and Steph and it seems, Jason and Tori are suppose to be the 'good' guys. Tori is supposedly trying to help Steph with her big secret.

To some of us Jason still deceived MC, a friend who he supposedly thinks highly of. Some of us feel Jason is not a very good 'bro', knowing everything is a setup, he should have 1) told his good friend or 2) should have said no to Steph knowing what was going on behind the scenes. Jason took the third option and fucked Steph as soon as she pounced on him.

Some of us think Jason is still an asshole and not a very good friend. Sorry dev. I agree with Johnny, I'd give Jason a nice smack in the mouth when I found out.

I hope that clears up your confusion. Its messy, dev is revealing things all over the place. Its hard to keep track.

 

[lukrame]

I have so many questions on what the dev considers "good guys" now.

The sense of betrayal comes from the dev who got frustrated that people thought so lowly of Jason from early versions of the game. Some felt (yes me as well) that Jason was in league with Tori and Steph in deceiving the MC and that Jason just wanted to get access to Steph. 1.07 version came along and some of us still lingered doubts about Jason and Tori.

The dev revealed Jason is not part of the deception, only that he was a messenger to the MC with the 3some invite, but fucked it up some how. No idea how yet. The dev didn't want us to think so poorly of Jason as he isn't part of what's going on behind the scenes.

The future of these games is based around Jason, Tori and Steph and it seems, Jason and Tori are suppose to be the 'good' guys. Tori is supposedly trying to help Steph with her big secret.

To some of us Jason still deceived MC, a friend who he supposedly thinks highly of. Some of us feel Jason is not a very good 'bro', knowing everything is a setup, he should have 1) told his good friend or 2) should have said no to Steph knowing what was going on behind the scenes. Jason took the third option and fucked Steph as soon as she pounced on him.

Some of us think Jason is still an asshole and not a very good friend. Sorry dev. I agree with Johnny, I'd give Jason a nice smack in the mouth when I found out.

I hope that clears up your confusion. Its messy, dev is revealing things all over the place. Its hard to keep track.

To me, this just leaves more questions cause now I have trouble imagining what dev's idea of good guy even means. For me, all three (steph tori jason) are complete cunts and are toxic to the MC.

 

[Joshy92]

I'm really looking forward to hearing Steph's big secret
That has been bugging me for ages lol

But even if it's bad I'm not going to judge it too harshly until the game is finished and I have the full picture

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I have so many questions on what the dev considers "good guys" now.



To me, this just leaves more questions cause now I have trouble imagining what dev's idea of good guy even means. For me, all three (steph tori jason) are complete cunts and are toxic to the MC.

I completely agree. I think the dev will have a problem getting many people to go from how they feel now to seeing these three in a better light, let alone think of them as good. You never know though. I think this reveal will answer some questions at least. I did ask him why they couldn't just tell MC, he said there would be no story then.

I'm really looking forward to hearing Steph's big secret
That has been bugging me for ages lol

But even if it's bad I'm not going to judge it too harshly until the game is finished and I have the full picture

That is a good attitude joshy. You have a good heart, a perverted brain, but a good heart mate.

I am waiting for the big reveal and then I am interested to see how these alternate pathways are going to work where you can bypass Tori and Jason. If they are the crux of the story, how are these new paths going to work, an alternate story? The alternative path might just turn out to be better than the main path. Just a thought.

 

[The Wicked One]

I'm really looking forward to hearing Steph's big secret
That has been bugging me for ages lol

But even if it's bad I'm not going to judge it too harshly until the game is finished and I have the full picture

I thought I was the only one! I really want to hear it, too. But I guess in time.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I thought I was the only one! I really want to hear it, too. But I guess in time.

You're not alone mate. We all want to know!

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I don't know where the Jason betrayal is, but even on the lowest confidence route possible it gives you two different opportunities to tell Jason not to fuck your wife and if you do so it disables the watching from the stairway scene no matter how high your voyeurism is or how low your confidence. If you tell him anything else during those two opportunities the dialogue basically tells Jason he should follow Steph's lead or that you have put no restrictions on what happens. There are also two opportunities during the conversation with Steph before the visit that will do the same thing. With four chances to pump the breaks and one more chance to tell Steph that her sister is calling in the midst of their tryst there really isn't any betrayal to be had. Where you arrive is the natural end point of your decisions.

To me, that's all academic.

Like the Aussie said above, he's supposed to be his friend. Regardless of Tori or Steph's involvement behind the scenes vs Jason's involvement, prior to this whole weekend of debaucherous times, Jason obviously would have been cognizant of his own history and the fact that MC doesn't know this about him yet.

Having a buddy ask you to eiffel-tower his girl with you, then OH by the way, your buddy used to be a hardcore swinger, specifically of the 'dom bull' variety that would fuck other women while simultaenously not interested in voyeurism experiences of his own woman, yeah, I think a lot of guys would call that under-handed.

To be clear, the second clause in the prior sentence is the important one, not the first. Obviously people in swinging lifestyle may prefer to conceal that part of life from friends not in it, that's fine. But the flavor of his history and its extreme relevance to the current scenario can't be ignored.

Aside from not liking IR in general (tho every update horton bay changes this ), this is my major problem with Jason. I'd be MUCH more tolerant and chill about all the low/med-conf paths at Tori's house if Jason and Tori's history were described as a fun loving more 'bilateral' swinging couple, i.e. they both had gotten wild in the past, they both enjoyed sex with others, and they both enjoyed watching their partner have sex with others. Instead, we get this single-minded BBC cuckold fetishist's version of his past swinging experiences - literally he's a huge stud and girls love to fuck him, while Tori doesn't explicitly ever mention any kind of pleasure resulting from other men (while with Jason, excluding her past before). Like cmon, what is this bromidic writing? This sounds straight from a KingB game.

 

[Joshy92]

If Steph's big secret is she is a Collingwood supporter
I want a divorce straight away.

(Grumpy might get my reference lol)

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

If Steph's big secret is she is a Collingwood supporter
I want a divorce straight away.

(Grumpy might get my reference lol)

LMAO well being a QLDer they are on my shit list, even though they use to be my team. Don't divorce me Joshy. I wouldn't divorce Steph for being a Collingwood supporter, but I definitely would if she was a Carlton supporter.

 

[NewTricks]

I think that people need to take a step back and chill a bit. Take a breath and let the story unfold. Maybe Jason is a good guy and maybe he is a snake in the grass, but until later in the story that isn't going to be revealed, and who really wants to spoil the surprise? In any case, the scenario presented needs to fit the structure of a choose-your-own adventure where two divergent fetishistic scenarios are equally possible. In every scenario that I played through, the initial offer of a threesome is in earnest but what actually unfolds is totally based on what the MC wants the most. Yes, that includes Jason playing the bull. If there is a manipulative person to be found it is clearly Tori. Jason is her puppet. It is very noticeable that if the MC is confident and self-assured she talks Jason up as her savior and if he is reluctant and insecure she degrades Jason as just another bull. We have no idea if either of these are true, neither of them are true, or both of them are true. She is the dishonest one. She is the one who makes all the real decisions. She is the one who is tailoring this experience to whatever fetish the MC develops and she is clearly the one who is talking Steph into things based on the lunch receipt you can find. For all we know, Jason doesn't even know why his wife requested any of this but dollars to donuts this has more to do with the Trading scheme that is troubling Jason than any ill intent on his part. Steph and Tori obviously have a lot to answer for in upcoming chapters but it remains to be seen the extent to which Jason falls into the bad friend category.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I think that people need to take a step back and chill a bit. Take a breath and let the story unfold. Maybe Jason is a good guy and maybe he is a snake in the grass, but until later in the story that isn't going to be revealed, and who really wants to spoil the surprise? In any case, the scenario presented needs to fit the structure of a choose-your-own adventure where two divergent fetishistic scenarios are equally possible. In every scenario that I played through, the initial offer of a threesome is in earnest but what actually unfolds is totally based on what the MC wants the most. Yes, that includes Jason playing the bull. If there is a manipulative person to be found it is clearly Tori. Jason is her puppet. It is very noticeable that if the MC is confident and self-assured she talks Jason up as her savior and if he is reluctant and insecure she degrades Jason as just another bull. We have no idea if either of these are true, neither of them are true, or both of them are true. She is the dishonest one. She is the one who makes all the real decisions. She is the one who is tailoring this experience to whatever fetish the MC develops and she is clearly the one who is talking Steph into things based on the lunch receipt you can find. For all we know, Jason doesn't even know why his wife requested any of this but dollars to donuts this has more to do with the Trading scheme that is troubling Jason than any ill intent on his part. Steph and Tori obviously have a lot to answer for in upcoming chapters but it remains to be seen the extent to which Jason falls into the bad friend category.

You have to admit it was Jason who fucked up by offering you a 3some with his wife, which was never the deal to begin with, it was always Steph, Tori and Jason in a 3some, not the mc and I’m playing it on the high confidence path, cause I’m not the Cuck

 

[NewTricks]

You have to admit it was Jason who fucked up by offering you a 3some with his wife, which was never the deal to begin with, it was always Steph, Tori and Jason in a 3some, not the mc and I’m playing it on the high confidence path, cause I’m not the Cuck

False. Demonstratively false. On the high-confidence run, Jason was watching and presumably jerking off while the MC was with both women. If you just got the male name wrong and are saying that Jason fucked up because he was excluded maybe and maybe not. Jason has been pretty tight-lipped when it comes to what he actually enjoys.

 

[Nafig]

I don't know where the Jason betrayal is, but even on the lowest confidence route possible it gives you two different opportunities to tell Jason not to fuck your wife and if you do so it disables the watching from the stairway scene no matter how high your voyeurism is or how low your confidence. If you tell him anything else during those two opportunities the dialogue basically tells Jason he should follow Steph's lead or that you have put no restrictions on what happens. There are also two opportunities during the conversation with Steph before the visit that will do the same thing. With four chances to pump the breaks and one more chance to tell Steph that her sister is calling in the midst of their tryst there really isn't any betrayal to be had. Where you arrive is the natural end point of your decisions.

"Best Friend" betrayed by not telling MC about the Steph/Tori plot.
The “best friend” betrayed him by taking part in it, even if it was the role of ambassador. The author says: "The fact is, Jason is the reluctant party in all of this, which is part of why he messed it up when he was put on point", but Jason and Tori live in an open marriage, he knows Tori's character, do drawing conclusions about the meaning of the “sentence” he was asked to convey is not difficult. But I don’t believe the author, he’s already lied a lot. The players' negative reaction to Jason's actions forced him to backpedal. Also with a receipt and a telephone conversation. There is a rule in literature: “if a gun is hanging in the first part, it must fire in the last.”
The “best friend” betrayed him by offering sex to Ms+Tori+Jason, “forgetting to tell” about his “hobby,” which immediately puts them in an unequal position.
MC never got the promised sex MC+Tori+Jason, what do you call a “best friend” who doesn’t keep his promises?
And most importantly, FRIENDS DO NOT FUCK, either directly or figuratively.

 

[lukrame]

the secret is prolly gonna be steph is a huge whore and wants to gobble every cock on the street.

MC should just start charging people for fucking steph and find a new girl. Steph demoted to glorified prostitute.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

the secret is prolly gonna be steph is a huge whore and wants to gobble every cock on the street.

MC should just start charging people for fucking steph and find a new girl. Steph demoted to glorified prostitute.

 

[D2taA]

Well I think a lot of pyare still pissed off about how the game was originally wrote,1.6. This latest update 1.07,changes a lot of things, different dialogue and more choices with different results. Most are remembering that and it carrying over to what we have now. I used to be Jason banged your wife out of nowhere, but now you have to give him permission.

 

[D2taA]

On Friday night if you hang out to long talking to Gina, when you get back home it's too late. Wife is getting beat into the sheets, and you can go back to bar(game over) or go to guest room. He wakes up in the morning back in his bed not remembering how he got there. That makes me think that maybe the dream sequence could've really happened.