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If you ask for the save file folder in
- windows: "%AppData\Roaming\RenPy\"
- mac: "$HOME/Library/RenPy/"
- linux: "$HOME/.renpy/"
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Many thanks for your prompt response. Kind regards
- Oct 15, 2016
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Eh, this is suppossed to be a game where NTR is not the only route and the couple can swing, not jus tthe wife fuck every guy she wants. So no, this is not an "NTR thread", unless the dev has been lying this entire time.NTR haters hating on NTR threads
- Oct 15, 2016
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How about you stop trying to pidgeon hole a game to what YOU want it to be? Other players have the right to voice their disgust at what the dev tried to promote the game as, and then turned it into something completely different. There is a NTR path, just pick low condifence.Man just let the dev do their NTR game and leave them alone, always the fucking complainers ruining dev's original vision
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So, question. Not having played the game since the first release, and not playing the 1.07 version it seems a lot has changed. Reading back 10 pages or so on the forum, I see a lot of people have some of the same questions I did when replaying the game.
1. Where is the MC either controlling the action or BOTH people in the relationship actually setting boundaries and abiding by them?
2. There's been a few mentions of a "big secret" related to Steph, apparently mental health issues.. What if she is a nympho and has been fucking all the clients at her company? It's kept hidden because it would cause a negative perception, but she apparently is some major 'presenter' or 'deal closer' and that 'secret' would fit pretty well with that.
3. Anyone thought that if this is some giant conspiracy against a basically cuck/beta MC (even on HC route he still doesn't do shit to stop things he should or would not tolerate Steph doing) to leave him holding the bag for some sort of fraud/money laundering? I mean Jason 'found' these things and pointed them out to the MC, the MC has been investigating, i.e. planting his electronic fingerprints all over the data related to this. If the scheme was as large as implied in the story, with hundreds of accounts with millions in each one, they could give up a fraction of the fake business and put the MC under the jail and then they keep on operating like they have.
4. Has there been any indication of what Tori does for a job? How do we know that Tori and Steph haven't met well before the holiday party? Could they be working together to 'seal the deal' with all this other stuff Jason initially brought up, Steph finally get tired of living the 'dull married life' and moving on, etc.
5. I agree with the sentiment, Sterph is definitely driving the situaiton and the MC is playing the cuck route for the most part. This reminds me of another game with supposed 'swinging' and really just another slut-wife story where the woman initiates the dumbass MC into agreeing with her having an open marriage so she can fuck everyone else. In case anyone interested that's Perfect Housewife (when she's anything but, and another female character whose name starts with an 's').
6. One of the dialogues was that Steph was afraid that one day the MC would see her not as the mother of his kids but a sluit, well she's already proven herself to BE a slut, regardless of what the idiot MC says, so that's amusing.
7. Anyone have the odds, or over/under, on the bet tyhat Steph has already been cheating on the MC, just had been hiding it well?
8. It was also amusing in the game that ther supposed 'love sex' was pretty tame, and Streph had a decidedly DIFFERENT view on how she acted with that than the raw fucking she did. So congrats to the MC, you basically get "friend-zone" vanilla boring sex, while she get's her animalistic, cum so hard her eyes roll back, and fuck all the guys she wants BUT you type sex with all the OTHER guys.
Anyone notice in the Tori story where she says that her husband used the film of her "fucking 4 guys" and used it against her? Notice that her husband was NOT ONE OF the 4 guys? So she basically has all this sex with everyone except her husband because the hubby is boring and bland. I expect the story to go the same way with Steph and her turn into a true 'secret-slut' or 'slut-wife' just like all the other games that supposedlyt have swinging and end up mostly beta/cuck.
1. Where is the MC either controlling the action or BOTH people in the relationship actually setting boundaries and abiding by them?
2. There's been a few mentions of a "big secret" related to Steph, apparently mental health issues.. What if she is a nympho and has been fucking all the clients at her company? It's kept hidden because it would cause a negative perception, but she apparently is some major 'presenter' or 'deal closer' and that 'secret' would fit pretty well with that.
3. Anyone thought that if this is some giant conspiracy against a basically cuck/beta MC (even on HC route he still doesn't do shit to stop things he should or would not tolerate Steph doing) to leave him holding the bag for some sort of fraud/money laundering? I mean Jason 'found' these things and pointed them out to the MC, the MC has been investigating, i.e. planting his electronic fingerprints all over the data related to this. If the scheme was as large as implied in the story, with hundreds of accounts with millions in each one, they could give up a fraction of the fake business and put the MC under the jail and then they keep on operating like they have.
4. Has there been any indication of what Tori does for a job? How do we know that Tori and Steph haven't met well before the holiday party? Could they be working together to 'seal the deal' with all this other stuff Jason initially brought up, Steph finally get tired of living the 'dull married life' and moving on, etc.
5. I agree with the sentiment, Sterph is definitely driving the situaiton and the MC is playing the cuck route for the most part. This reminds me of another game with supposed 'swinging' and really just another slut-wife story where the woman initiates the dumbass MC into agreeing with her having an open marriage so she can fuck everyone else. In case anyone interested that's Perfect Housewife (when she's anything but, and another female character whose name starts with an 's').
6. One of the dialogues was that Steph was afraid that one day the MC would see her not as the mother of his kids but a sluit, well she's already proven herself to BE a slut, regardless of what the idiot MC says, so that's amusing.
7. Anyone have the odds, or over/under, on the bet tyhat Steph has already been cheating on the MC, just had been hiding it well?
8. It was also amusing in the game that ther supposed 'love sex' was pretty tame, and Streph had a decidedly DIFFERENT view on how she acted with that than the raw fucking she did. So congrats to the MC, you basically get "friend-zone" vanilla boring sex, while she get's her animalistic, cum so hard her eyes roll back, and fuck all the guys she wants BUT you type sex with all the OTHER guys.
Anyone notice in the Tori story where she says that her husband used the film of her "fucking 4 guys" and used it against her? Notice that her husband was NOT ONE OF the 4 guys? So she basically has all this sex with everyone except her husband because the hubby is boring and bland. I expect the story to go the same way with Steph and her turn into a true 'secret-slut' or 'slut-wife' just like all the other games that supposedlyt have swinging and end up mostly beta/cuck.
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Nice post and yeah a lot has changed since the original release. According to the dev there are a lot more changes to come. I'm a bit mystified as to why the dev didn't go with a completed story and a set vision, but he seems to enjoy messing with everyone.
1. MC stays in the boundaries, Steph doesn't. On the HC (High Confidence) route she does most of the time.
2. That is as good a theory as I have heard. Only the dev has said she isn't cheating. It looks like she is to many of us, but apparently not. There is a small update next and then apparently the big secret will be revealed.
3. Interesting theory, I like it. The dev hasn't done much with that story line. I think it wont be resolved in this game but will arc across the future games they have planned.
4. Tori works in HR. It is quite possible they have. The dev said it links back to the Christmas party. I assume it all started there but they could have known each before that. Steph wanted more for sure as from her masturbation scene where she was thinking about a 3some.
5. Yep Steph rules the roost. On HC the MC/player is suppose to get more say and Steph is suppose to obey him. We shall see, its not in her character to obey but that is what the dev said.
6. Completely agree. I think from the sister's visit, Steph settled for him to get out of a bad situation and hence why she has no respect for her husband but that is just a personal theory.
7. It certainly looks that way. The dev said no she is not cheating. He wants to do the LC path close to cheating but not cheating but the LC path will definitely be in cuck territory, but the dev seems adamant about some thing and changeable on others..
8. Yep, hence why I say she settled. Sex is normal sex with MC but cant control herself with assholes (Donny and Jason). In real life it happens a hell of a lot. Guys think they are in a great marriage and get blindsided discovering their wife loses her heads during sex with some low life she is have an affair with and doing things she would never do with her husband.
Tori has those plans for sure. She says she wants to be protective but that is bullshit as soon as she starts talking about MC being left out and pushing Steph's boundaries, she isn't looking to help anyone but her own perversions. It isn't looking like a swinging game at the moment, but who knows with this dev, he changes the narrative a lot. I think Steph will go all out slut in the next game of the story, but probably not this one.
Thanks for your sharing your insights, you have some interesting ones and most of your insights mirror most of us.
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The chic in the bathroom, at the club Saturday night. Didn't the wife say on Friday night that Tori had a pair high heel boots, so is that Tori and Jason in the bathroom stall. Something else I thought about is the Saturday night dream sequence, what if was real and not just a dream. Most dreams don't drink a 5th of vodka that you bought that afternoon.
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The low-confidence/high voyeurism route has its moments, but to get there you need to carefully balance which high-confidence decisions you want to mix in with your low-confidence shit show. You get pretty funny results.
After playing both high-confidence and low-confidence runs it does seem like Steph is the driving force behind the entire enterprise and your high confidence or low confidence seems to only indicate how on board you are with the journey and how much you are able to influence it in your own favor. Being reluctant doesn't seem like it is to your benefit but in some ways she does appreciate that in the low confidence MC. Maybe even more than the brashness of the high-confidence MC. Being a pussy gives you no points with the other girls, though.
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After playing both high-confidence and low-confidence runs it does seem like Steph is the driving force behind the entire enterprise and your high confidence or low confidence seems to only indicate how on board you are with the journey and how much you are able to influence it in your own favor. Being reluctant doesn't seem like it is to your benefit but in some ways she does appreciate that in the low confidence MC. Maybe even more than the brashness of the high-confidence MC. Being a pussy gives you no points with the other girls, though.
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Yeah, this was the first way I originally tried to play the game, i.e. "the voyeur with agency", and it's damn difficult. The game seems to railroad you into this narrow spectrum where you're either 'MegaAlphaManPussSlayer' (tho still with strumpet wife oddly) or 'MegaBitchBoyDoormat'. The notion of a personality who would enjoy watching Steph with others guys yet still knock Jason out the instant he found out he was betraying him seems to not exist in the dev's universe.
While I totally agree with the rest of your post, I actually disagree with this point. To me, all the sex scenes look pretty vanilla to me, at least visually. I think the dev often tries to compensate with superfluous dialogue during the scenes.
Like as much as I hate the Tori house visit on low/med conf, for all this hyperbolized talk on "zomg Jason is quite the dominant bull" what do we actually see on screen? A fairly vanilla missionary sex scene on a couch. "zomg he'll blow her back out" .....(Vanilla missionary sex intensifies)......
Same with Donnie - the low conf descriptions are written to make it sound humiliating, but since the visuals don't really match, it never had that impact on me. The train route makes it sound like she's emerging from the bedroom with a face drenched in cum, makeup running, but nothing like that actually happens. Supposedly he's facefucking her, but the angle is shot from his rear? So the visual never hits....I get that it's from the mc's perspective, that's why you rotate your actors on the bed by 90° .
btw who does that lol, framing a facefucking porn shot from behind the guy's ass as he's straddling her torso??
reminds me of some of my favorite mocking comments on pornsites, like when they film reverse cowgirl from behind the man and woman, or a blowjob from directly behind the woman's head....some of these devs need to go to porn school 101...
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I don't know where the Jason betrayal is, but even on the lowest confidence route possible it gives you two different opportunities to tell Jason not to fuck your wife and if you do so it disables the watching from the stairway scene no matter how high your voyeurism is or how low your confidence. If you tell him anything else during those two opportunities the dialogue basically tells Jason he should follow Steph's lead or that you have put no restrictions on what happens. There are also two opportunities during the conversation with Steph before the visit that will do the same thing. With four chances to pump the breaks and one more chance to tell Steph that her sister is calling in the midst of their tryst there really isn't any betrayal to be had. Where you arrive is the natural end point of your decisions.
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The sense of betrayal comes from the dev who got frustrated that people thought so lowly of Jason from early versions of the game. Some felt (yes me as well) that Jason was in league with Tori and Steph in deceiving the MC and that Jason just wanted to get access to Steph. 1.07 version came along and some of us still lingered doubts about Jason and Tori.
The dev revealed Jason is not part of the deception, only that he was a messenger to the MC with the 3some invite, but fucked it up some how. No idea how yet. The dev didn't want us to think so poorly of Jason as he isn't part of what's going on behind the scenes.
The future of these games is based around Jason, Tori and Steph and it seems, Jason and Tori are suppose to be the 'good' guys. Tori is supposedly trying to help Steph with her big secret.
To some of us Jason still deceived MC, a friend who he supposedly thinks highly of. Some of us feel Jason is not a very good 'bro', knowing everything is a setup, he should have 1) told his good friend or 2) should have said no to Steph knowing what was going on behind the scenes. Jason took the third option and fucked Steph as soon as she pounced on him.
Some of us think Jason is still an asshole and not a very good friend. Sorry dev. I agree with Johnny, I'd give Jason a nice smack in the mouth when I found out.
I hope that clears up your confusion. Its messy, dev is revealing things all over the place. Its hard to keep track.
I have so many questions on what the dev considers "good guys" now.
To me, this just leaves more questions cause now I have trouble imagining what dev's idea of good guy even means. For me, all three (steph tori jason) are complete cunts and are toxic to the MC.
To me, this just leaves more questions cause now I have trouble imagining what dev's idea of good guy even means. For me, all three (steph tori jason) are complete cunts and are toxic to the MC.
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I'm really looking forward to hearing Steph's big secret
That has been bugging me for ages lol
But even if it's bad I'm not going to judge it too harshly until the game is finished and I have the full picture
That has been bugging me for ages lol
But even if it's bad I'm not going to judge it too harshly until the game is finished and I have the full picture
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I completely agree. I think the dev will have a problem getting many people to go from how they feel now to seeing these three in a better light, let alone think of them as good. You never know though. I think this reveal will answer some questions at least. I did ask him why they couldn't just tell MC, he said there would be no story then.
That is a good attitude joshy. You have a good heart, a perverted brain, but a good heart mate.
I am waiting for the big reveal and then I am interested to see how these alternate pathways are going to work where you can bypass Tori and Jason. If they are the crux of the story, how are these new paths going to work, an alternate story? The alternative path might just turn out to be better than the main path. Just a thought.
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I thought I was the only one! I really want to hear it, too. But I guess in time.
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To me, that's all academic.
Like the Aussie said above, he's supposed to be his friend. Regardless of Tori or Steph's involvement behind the scenes vs Jason's involvement, prior to this whole weekend of debaucherous times, Jason obviously would have been cognizant of his own history and the fact that MC doesn't know this about him yet.
Having a buddy ask you to eiffel-tower his girl with you, then OH by the way, your buddy used to be a hardcore swinger, specifically of the 'dom bull' variety that would fuck other women while simultaenously not interested in voyeurism experiences of his own woman, yeah, I think a lot of guys would call that under-handed.
To be clear, the second clause in the prior sentence is the important one, not the first. Obviously people in swinging lifestyle may prefer to conceal that part of life from friends not in it, that's fine. But the flavor of his history and its extreme relevance to the current scenario can't be ignored.
Aside from not liking IR in general (tho every update horton bay changes this
), this is my major problem with Jason. I'd be MUCH more tolerant and chill about all the low/med-conf paths at Tori's house if Jason and Tori's history were described as a fun loving more 'bilateral' swinging couple, i.e. they both had gotten wild in the past, they both enjoyed sex with others, and they both enjoyed watching their partner have sex with others. Instead, we get this single-minded BBC cuckold fetishist's version of his past swinging experiences - literally he's a huge stud and girls love to fuck him, while Tori doesn't explicitly ever mention any kind of pleasure resulting from other men (while with Jason, excluding her past before). Like cmon, what is this bromidic writing? This sounds straight from a KingB game.
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If Steph's big secret is she is a Collingwood supporter
I want a divorce straight away.
(Grumpy might get my reference lol)
I want a divorce straight away.
(Grumpy might get my reference lol)
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LMAO well being a QLDer they are on my shit list, even though they use to be my team. Don't divorce me Joshy. I wouldn't divorce Steph for being a Collingwood supporter, but I definitely would if she was a Carlton supporter.
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I think that people need to take a step back and chill a bit. Take a breath and let the story unfold. Maybe Jason is a good guy and maybe he is a snake in the grass, but until later in the story that isn't going to be revealed, and who really wants to spoil the surprise? In any case, the scenario presented needs to fit the structure of a choose-your-own adventure where two divergent fetishistic scenarios are equally possible. In every scenario that I played through, the initial offer of a threesome is in earnest but what actually unfolds is totally based on what the MC wants the most. Yes, that includes Jason playing the bull. If there is a manipulative person to be found it is clearly Tori. Jason is her puppet. It is very noticeable that if the MC is confident and self-assured she talks Jason up as her savior and if he is reluctant and insecure she degrades Jason as just another bull. We have no idea if either of these are true, neither of them are true, or both of them are true. She is the dishonest one. She is the one who makes all the real decisions. She is the one who is tailoring this experience to whatever fetish the MC develops and she is clearly the one who is talking Steph into things based on the lunch receipt you can find. For all we know, Jason doesn't even know why his wife requested any of this but dollars to donuts this has more to do with the Trading scheme that is troubling Jason than any ill intent on his part. Steph and Tori obviously have a lot to answer for in upcoming chapters but it remains to be seen the extent to which Jason falls into the bad friend category.