VN Ren'Py Abandoned Another Man's Wife [v1.092] [Too Perilous]

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Well I think a lot of pyare still pissed off about how the game was originally wrote,1.6. This latest update 1.07,changes a lot of things, different dialogue and more choices with different results. Most are remembering that and it carrying over to what we have now. I used to be Jason banged your wife out of nowhere, but now you have to give him permission.

You could be right there. 1.06a was not what people expected, it threw me for a loop. We may still have residue hostility from that. I suppose we will have to see if Jason's motives are revealed. I just can't see how it isn't a low act. Permission is great when you have all the facts, when you are being conned, it doesn't matter if he had permission or not. That is my perspective. Its not a matter of if they have sex as much as should Jason have done so knowing what he knows. I'm in the bros before hos camp on that one.

The dev pushed that MC forgives Steph everything because he gave a promise in the bar that he wouldn't let it compromise their marriage. I said that promise is null and void as he is being deceived from before that promise and after that promise. The dev disagrees so I'm not sure how that will go in the game ahead.

On Friday night if you hang out to long talking to Gina, when you get back home it's too late. Wife is getting beat into the sheets, and you can go back to bar(game over) or go to guest room. He wakes up in the morning back in his bed not remembering how he got there. That makes me think that maybe the dream sequence could've really happened.

Interesting, you may have something there. I'll have to go back and have another look at that when I get a chance.

 

[Nafig]

Interesting, you may have something there. I'll have to go back and have another look at that when I get a chance.

What dream are we talking about? Donny is on Friday, and MC dreams on Saturday, after the club. Did I miss something?
Plus the fact that Steph is a lying bitch. Trying to understand what kind of dream they were talking about, I noticed that Steph brings Donny to the marital bed, not the guest bed. Then she kicks MC/Gina out onto the rug in the hallway or a “glass of water”, you can immediately see a loving and faithful wife. The author says Steph is good?
It is impossible to make the “love and happy marriage” route in the current version of the game. The text can be rewritten, but there is no visual part to demonstrate this. And even if the author adds these scenes in a new part, it will look like a puzzle assembled from different sets. I'm not talking about the "cuckold" or "ntr" routes.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

What dream are we talking about? Donny is on Friday, and MC dreams on Saturday, after the club. Did I miss something?
Plus the fact that Steph is a lying bitch. Trying to understand what kind of dream they were talking about, I noticed that Steph brings Donny to the marital bed, not the guest bed. Then she kicks MC/Gina out onto the rug in the hallway or a “glass of water”, you can immediately see a loving and faithful wife. The author says Steph is good?

It is impossible to make the “love and happy marriage” route in the current version of the game. The text can be rewritten, but there is no visual part to demonstrate this. And even if the author adds these scenes in a new part, it will look like a puzzle assembled from different sets. I'm not talking about the "cuckold" or "ntr" routes.

Yeah your right, the dreams are on different nights. I should have realised. Too much going on in my head of late. Steph is certainly a bitch, as I have said often, she has no respect for her husband. I was willing to overlook these things as first time mess ups, it happens, but her continual disrespect throughout the game doesn't warrant letting her off so easy.

I don't think the dev said Steph is good directly, only that Jason is and that Tori is trying to help Steph. Yeah real good Samaritan that one. He does say Steph doesn't want the MC to know the extent of her problem and that is the reason for the deception. That 'might be commendable' depending on what it is, IF so many other people didn't already know about it. Its a fucked up thing to do to your husband. How would a real life husband feel in these circumstances? Hence the story I guess.

As it stands now I can't see how MC could forgive Steph or make this work. How could you possibly trust her again? We joke about the alternative divorce version Asahibito made, but that is where this couple should end up, but we know that isn't what will happen the dev has said so. MC will stand by her with the unconditional love BS. And I thought I was an old romantic fool

 

[Nafig]

Yeah your right, the dreams are on different nights. I should have realised. Too much going on in my head of late. Steph is certainly a bitch, as I have said often, she has no respect for her husband. I was willing to overlook these things as first time mess ups, it happens, but her continual disrespect throughout the game doesn't warrant letting her off so easy.

I don't think the dev said Steph is good directly, only that Jason is and that Tori is trying to help Steph. Yeah real good Samaritan that one. He does say Steph doesn't want the MC to know the extent of her problem and that is the reason for the deception. That 'might be commendable' depending on what it is, IF so many other people didn't already know about it. Its a fucked up thing to do to your husband. How would a real life husband feel in these circumstances? Hence the story I guess.

As it stands now I can't see how MC could forgive Steph or make this work. How could you possibly trust her again? We joke about the alternative divorce version Asahibito made, but that is where this couple should end up, but we know that isn't what will happen the dev has said so. MC will stand by her with the unconditional love BS. And I thought I was an old romantic fool

It's not you and me who are romantic fools. This game author’s idea of what friendship, love, a happy marriage, swing is is perverted. It feels like he is from another world. When we read detective stories, science fiction or horror, we determine the plot by the content of the story, and not by the inscription on the cover, or the words “this is a detective story,” “this is science fiction.” What bothers me is what the author says about ideas they spent six months falling in love with. It was from these ideas that v.106 emerged. Now the author says: “we will make a game based on these ideas,” he does not say: “we will make the game as promised.” The author can make the game “as he wants,” but forgetting about promises is at least impolite.

 

[Joshy92]

I would totally take Steph on a date
We would go see a movie and have a romantic dinner
Maybe go for a nice walk while holding hands
And when we get home, we would make love
That would be a perfect date

She is a stunning woman

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I would totally take Steph on a date
We would go see a movie and have a romantic dinner
Maybe go for a nice walk while holding hands
And when we get home, we would make love
That would be a perfect date

She is a stunning woman

She would Cuck you something fierce, then have a bbc gangbang with Jason, Tyrone and Darrell and make you lick the cream pies out of her ass and cunt

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I would totally take Steph on a date
We would go see a movie and have a romantic dinner
Maybe go for a nice walk while holding hands
And when we get home, we would make love
That would be a perfect date

She is a stunning woman

She would Cuck you something fierce, then have a bbc gangbang with Jason, Tyrone and Darrell and make you lick the cream pies out of her ass and cunt

Oops she just cut your bulls off in the middle of the night for Low Confidence. You forgot the Confidence mechanic Joshy.

 

[Big Rooster]

it used to be the anti-NTR crowd would wreck threads as these (F them)
Nowadays its a hoot to see what you jokers come up with!

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Oops she just cut your bulls off in the middle of the night for Low Confidence. You forgot the Confidence mechanic Joshy.

Damn why did that give me a Lorena Bobbitt nightmare flashback For all the noobs that don’t get that reference google it, oh hell we know your too lazy to do that, so here

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[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Damn why did that give me a Lorena Bobbitt nightmare flashback For all the noobs that don’t get that reference google it, oh hell we know your too lazy to do that, so here
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google it? No need I can still hear 8 year old me and friends singing "a wimboweh a wimboweh a wimboweh....in the bedroom, the quiet bedroom, john bobbit sleeps tonight, in the kitchen, the quiet kitchen, lorena gets the knife....."

 

[D2taA]

Yeah your right, the dreams are on different nights. I should have realised. Too much going on in my head of late. Steph is certainly a bitch, as I have said often, she has no respect for her husband. I was willing to overlook these things as first time mess ups, it happens, but her continual disrespect throughout the game doesn't warrant letting her off so easy.

I don't think the dev said Steph is good directly, only that Jason is and that Tori is trying to help Steph. Yeah real good Samaritan that one. He does say Steph doesn't want the MC to know the extent of her problem and that is the reason for the deception. That 'might be commendable' depending on what it is, IF so many other people didn't already know about it. Its a fucked up thing to do to your husband. How would a real life husband feel in these circumstances? Hence the story I guess.

As it stands now I can't see how MC could forgive Steph or make this work. How could you possibly trust her again? We joke about the alternative divorce version Asahibito made, but that is where this couple should end up, but we know that isn't what will happen the dev has said so. MC will stand by her with the unconditional love BS. And I thought I was an old romantic fool

Dream happened on Saturday night, on Friday night he gets mad and goes to guest room. She comes down there and he starts yelling at her and won't go back to the bedroom. But he wakes up Saturday morning back in his bedroom and doesn't remember how he got there. She tells him he was sleepwalking and went to the bathroom and ended up back in his bed with her. So the next night he has the weird dream, his words, so he could've been sleepwalking and saw what was going on down in the guestroom.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Dream happened on Saturday night, on Friday night he gets mad and goes to guest room. She comes down there and he starts yelling at her and won't go back to the bedroom. But he wakes up Saturday morning back in his bedroom and doesn't remember how he got there. She tells him he was sleepwalking and went to the bathroom and ended up back in his bed with her. So the next night he has the weird dream, his words, so he could've been sleepwalking and saw what was going on down in the guestroom.

Ah that makes more sense, I get what you were saying now. I didn't think much about the sleep walking incident. The dev loves his clues and red herrings so it could be one or the other. Good pick up. For all we know Steph could be drugging the poor bugger that he has weird dreams, sleep walking episodes and memory loss.

 

[D2taA]

Ah that makes more sense, I get what you were saying now. I didn't think much about the sleep walking incident. The dev loves his clues and red herrings so it could be one or the other. Good pick up. For all we know Steph could be drugging the poor bugger that he has weird dreams, sleep walking episodes and memory loss.

Facts
But why did we see the chic in the bathroom of the club, I been it was Tori. I'm prolly wrong, but the fact that you see someone in the bathroom has to mean something. I'm actually not liking to new update, cause now Step really not on that no more. So you can't that mad at her, now you're having to make so many steps for her to do something. But you already now she behind ta back, from the receipt and the phone call. When she was with Donny she told you she like being a hoe and if you weren't there that she would've let him stay the night. Then you got SIL saying your just the puppy that followed her home. Like she usually with some loud over the top asshole like Donny, and you just some kinda dork who lucked and rebounded her. Makes me think shit bout to start going downhill like you fittin to be just a dude seen in the rear view mirror taken a back seat to her new lifestyle. But hay I could be wrong

 

[RockChalk]

If Steph's big secret is she is a Collingwood supporter
I want a divorce straight away.

(Grumpy might get my reference lol)

C'MON JOSHY!!! Steph is hot enough already! If she were a Pies Supporter, she would be perfect in my book! SIDE BY SIDE we'd FUCK together! Pies Forever!!!


GOOD OLD COLLINGWOOD FOREVER*

Good Old Collingwood forever,
They know how to play the game.

Side by side they stick together,
To uphold the Magpies name.

See, the barrackers are shouting,
As all barrackers should.

For the Premiership’s a cakewalk
For the good old Collingwood.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

False. Demonstratively false. On the high-confidence run, Jason was watching and presumably jerking off while the MC was with both women. If you just got the male name wrong and are saying that Jason fucked up because he was excluded maybe and maybe not. Jason has been pretty tight-lipped when it comes to what he actually enjoys.

I had been meaning to respond to this but also I was aware of my own ignorance having not played the most recent update - and as the guy a few pages back correctly mentioned, too many of us are imagining the game flow from prior versions.

So now that I've played it and read through all the variables.... I still think Jason is mad sleazy (at least either intentionally or carelessly written as such), and I'll touch on this a paragraph down from here.

As far as his actions on the high confidence run, I'd say the lack of any actions or him even being in shots is more odd - and honestly only serves to reinforce my biases against the dev (how would a bbc cuck enthusiast shoot a scene where the 'bull's' wife is caressing the 'other guy', while that 'other guy' is also fucking his own SO, all while the 'bull' sits on the sidelines? Simple, they wouldn't. They'd have no idea to how to stage the scene, and it would be as if said bull wasn't even present.)

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For everyone that's been discussing the current state over the past few pages; if anyone wasn't clear on how the flow works now, it's extremely simple. There are 2 ways to get tossed on to the "sub cuck path".

1) You're on the dom1=1,2 path You reach an SP score of 2 or greater. On the 1 path youve no choice, on the 2 path you can still opt out. 1 sp point is given/subtracted based on your answer to Jason and if "you're okay with all of this". 1 point can be subtracted by giving a 'cold feet' answer to Steph when you leave your house, or 3 points added for 'i have no problem with that'. Since you start at 0, what this means is literally none of the answers matter except for what you tell Steph when you leave the house. If she has your blessing, your reservations with Jason do nothing. Furthermore, the dev didn't even bother writing this contradiction into the script - regardless of path, if you reach the cuck end and use the safe word, he gives the same neutral apology.

2) This one makes me so angry. You're on the dom1=2,3 path and on friday night you went home with Steph alone, no Donnie, no Gina. Regardless of any of your answers to any of the questions from Steph, Tori, or Jason, it will proceed to the sub cuck blowjob scene.

So has the game actually improved over these last few updates? I dunno, tbh I'm kind of done caring about it at this point, it's halfway through October and they've put out a whopping 3 minutes of scenes in the last few months. In the meantime I've discovered games that are so much more enjoyable than this that don't make you feel like a clockwork orange patient, I probably won't bother updating that predictions post because I'm just over it... that's not to reflect on any of you, the spirited discussions here have probably been the most enjoyable part of the game.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Facts
But why did we see the chic in the bathroom of the club, I been it was Tori. I'm prolly wrong, but the fact that you see someone in the bathroom has to mean something. I'm actually not liking to new update, cause now Step really not on that no more. So you can't that mad at her, now you're having to make so many steps for her to do something. But you already now she behind ta back, from the receipt and the phone call. When she was with Donny she told you she like being a hoe and if you weren't there that she would've let him stay the night. Then you got SIL saying your just the puppy that followed her home. Like she usually with some loud over the top asshole like Donny, and you just some kinda dork who lucked and rebounded her. Makes me think shit bout to start going downhill like you fittin to be just a dude seen in the rear view mirror taken a back seat to her new lifestyle. But hay I could be wrong

No idea re-the bathroom scene. As much as I love a good speculation, I'm avoiding this one.

I have said several times, I think Steph settled which explains the puppy comment and why she has no respect for him and eager to fuck other guys. In the Chuck scene, Steph said he was her hero, well I think he was her hero because he came a long at the right time and took her out of the shit she was in. He was the rebound guy, the guy women settle for. The guy women begin to detest after they have been married to them for the while, because they are 'fond' of them, but don't really love them. Whether the writer is writing it that way who knows, but that is what it looks like to me. I don't think that is the secret, I just think it is the sad reality of this relationship. What woman with options 'falls' for a guy who says, "Hello I'm (MCs name)." A woman looking for a patsy to get her the fuck out of town.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

So has the game actually improved over these last few updates? I dunno, tbh I'm kind of done caring about it at this point, it's halfway through October and they've put out a whopping 3 minutes of scenes in the last few months. In the meantime I've discovered games that are so much more enjoyable than this that don't make you feel like a clockwork orange patient, I probably won't bother updating that predictions post because I'm just over it... that's not to reflect on any of you, the spirited discussions here have probably been the most enjoyable part of the game.

Its frustrating, way too much tinkering and changing. I love "clockwork orange patient" I might have to steal that one . I agree the discussions around this game are way better then the game at this stage. I've met some pretty cool guys on the this page and formed some good friendships off this page because of it. So I am grateful to AMW for that. I hope you will stick around or at least come back and join us with the big reveal (some time this millennium), so you can see just how I was the only one who got it all right .

 

[Nafig]

No idea re-the bathroom scene. As much as I love a good speculation, I'm avoiding this one.

I have said several times, I think Steph settled which explains the puppy comment and why she has no respect for him and eager to fuck other guys. In the Chuck scene, Steph said he was her hero, well I think he was her hero because he came a long at the right time and took her out of the shit she was in. He was the rebound guy, the guy women settle for. The guy women begin to detest after they have been married to them for the while, because they are 'fond' of them, but don't really love them. Whether the writer is writing it that way who knows, but that is what it looks like to me. I don't think that is the secret, I just think it is the sad reality of this relationship. What woman with options 'falls' for a guy who says, "Hello I'm (MCs name)." A woman looking for a patsy to get her the fuck out of town.

The author's words must be treated with great caution. Too often he changes his shoes on the go.
This is not Tori/Jason, MC did not recognize the voice. In my version, the MC sees Steph's shoes in the club (we all remember version 106 and how the author saw love). All the hints in the game have meaning, but, to the author’s surprise, the players perceived them negatively, not as evidence of love and a happy marriage, but as a sign of lies, betrayal and ntr. The author abruptly cut off the ends. He replaces “I recognize these shoes” with “I don’t recognize these shoes,” but then the scene becomes meaningless. Why is she?
The author said that he wants players to go through the game in different routes out of interest. What interest do meaningless hints that lead nowhere generate? One gets the impression that the only way to understand the story is through instructions from the author. The game has an audience that likes Ntr, but the author insists: “ntr is not in the game.” There is an audience that doesn’t like Ntr in the game, and the author insists: “ntr is not in the game.” Websites use the “ntr” tag. You start to wonder where the image of Steph with her mental disorder came from.
Steph only married MC because Donny, Chuck, and Tony would never do it. She jumped out for MC in the wake of the scandal with Chuck. Time has passed, the passions have subsided, but the nature of the whore remains. The pressure under the boiler lid Steph continues to rise...

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

The author said that he wants players to go through the game in different routes out of interest. What interest do meaningless hints that lead nowhere generate? One gets the impression that the only way to understand the story is through instructions from the author.

It reminds me of one of my favorite movies, Muholland Drive.

Movie is great, but David Lynch can be an insufferable prick in the exact same way. David Lynch Interview: "Audiences should focus on the blue key, that's what's important!" Moron. You're making mass media, not a jigsaw puzzle.

Too many creative minds are downright awful at perceiving their works through eyes of the player, reader, or watcher. Are these things actually intuitive, or am I unable to look at this without prior knowledge?

I also thought the club bathroom scene was always....out of place isn't the word, but definitely intentional. As in foreshadowing or existing on "bad" routes.

 

[asahibito]

1.07a removes that unreachable -400 Confidence Donny/Steph scene. If all the art assets are still there I might just keep it for the gallery mod.