VN Ren'Py Abandoned Another Man's Wife [v1.092] [Too Perilous]

[Nafig]

Reached my reaction limit ugh.
OOPS Dev said he has plans to rewrite sections based on my feedback and another guys as well. He wants to remove red herrings he thinks are confusing people and change some areas to be clearer. So more changes ahead. He also has big changes planned for the Tori/Jason scene. It will be very different it sounds like.

I have no doubt once the reveal is out he will want to make more changes if he starts losing too many fans.

Sorry mate.

I'd like to know where the changes in the Tori/Jason scene will lead.
I will describe my vision of this scene. Even at the beginning of the game, Tori is a dubious prize, but when the MC learns about her past, she ceases to be a worthy target. An extremely dubious reward to become the 999999999999 dick stuck in Tori. I don’t think it’s worth striving for such a goal. When you look at the path MC has traveled, you understand that Tori is not worth it.
There is a good comedy called Interstate 60. There is an episode in it where the main character meets someone like Tori. The following dialogue follows:
MS - I refuse, period.
Whore - So you're not a man? Met a real woman and got scared? Are you afraid of embarrassing yourself?
MC - You won't know that, right? If I don't do this, I won't become number two thousand... What else is there? I'll be number one. The ones you will remember for the rest of your life. At night you will think about me, wonder: is it him? My answer is yes. I am your ideal that you never had. Firestarter.
It's a shame we'll never see an MC like this. The life of such an MC is worth following. In AMW, such an answer meant confidence -1000 and “game over”. This game only needs a passive.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

So Jason has qualities that Steph likes and treats him differently. I don't see how that is problematic. Having Steph act perfectly consistently with everyone she meets would be bad writing. She will react differently to different people.

Don't you get it though? You criticize the notion that people would view Steph as a "fantasy fuck doll" instead of a more realistic, dynamic character yet seem cheerfully unburdened when her interactions with other characters are jarringly simple, to the point of caricatures, that's what's problematic.

I'm not advocating for Steph acting the same with everyone, I'm advocating for her not only acting differently with different people, but her attitude towards other people changing based on her relationship with MC.

 

[Nafig]

Don't you get it though? You criticize the notion that people would view Steph as a "fantasy fuck doll" instead of a more realistic, dynamic character yet seem cheerfully unburdened when her interactions with other characters are jarringly simple, to the point of caricatures, that's what's problematic.

I'm not advocating for Steph acting the same with everyone, I'm advocating for her not only acting differently with different people, but her attitude towards other people changing based on her relationship with MC.

In the current version, Steph consistently fucks everyone without missing anyone. What is the difference? Absolutely the same reaction to different characters. Only the attitude towards the MC will be “different”, she will screw everyone else completely inconsistently.

 

[AlexStandal]

Helloooo
Can someone tell me the difference between v1.07a and 1 07d? I missed the 'a' version and now there's a 'd' version.
We're there any new scenes? What changes were there? Where has both the updates taken the story?

 

[asahibito]

Helloooo
Can someone tell me the difference between v1.07a and 1 07d? I missed the 'a' version and now there's a 'd' version.
We're there any new scenes? What changes were there? Where has both the updates taken the story?

1.07 finishes out the visit to Tori/Jason. Subversions a through d are all bug fixes.
EDIT:
I guess not quite true. Dev also sneaked in some dialogue changes in a through d

 

[Dom Toretto]

Can we get the android version of D

 

[BangB420]

Just let the dev finish their game, there are gonna be different routes. Some of you NTR haters are so insecure that any hint of it and you shit the bed screaming about it. So sad to see many devs leave their original vision due the behavior of entitled self-serving whining brats.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Just let the dev finish their game, there are gonna be different routes. Some of you NTR haters are so insecure that any hint of it and you shit the bed screaming about it. So sad to see many devs leave their original vision due the behavior of entitled self-serving whining brats.

can you rephrase that in a more civil way? i'm proud that this thread has gone on for pages upon pages of discussion without devolving into nastiness.

 

[blkcrow820]

1.07 finishes out the visit to Tori/Jason. Subversions a through d are all bug fixes.
EDIT:
I guess not quite true. Dev also sneaked in some dialogue changes in a through d

Do you mods work ok with 1.07d?

 

[BangB420]

can you rephrase that in a more civil way? i'm proud that this thread has gone on for pages upon pages of discussion without devolving into nastiness.

Literally the thread has pages of people just complaining over and over about the same thing and saying how the dev is shit for including content not suited of their tastes.

 

[asahibito]

Do you mods work ok with 1.07d?

Yes.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I'd like to know where the changes in the Tori/Jason scene will lead.
I will describe my vision of this scene. Even at the beginning of the game, Tori is a dubious prize, but when the MC learns about her past, she ceases to be a worthy target. An extremely dubious reward to become the 999999999999 dick stuck in Tori. I don’t think it’s worth striving for such a goal. When you look at the path MC has traveled, you understand that Tori is not worth it.
There is a good comedy called Interstate 60. There is an episode in it where the main character meets someone like Tori. The following dialogue follows:
MS - I refuse, period.
Whore - So you're not a man? Met a real woman and got scared? Are you afraid of embarrassing yourself?
MC - You won't know that, right? If I don't do this, I won't become number two thousand... What else is there? I'll be number one. The ones you will remember for the rest of your life. At night you will think about me, wonder: is it him? My answer is yes. I am your ideal that you never had. Firestarter.
It's a shame we'll never see an MC like this. The life of such an MC is worth following. In AMW, such an answer meant confidence -1000 and “game over”. This game only needs a passive.

Where it will end up who knows. I can't tell you, the dev said there will be more branching and that Tori's second game is temporary, and that there will be more changes.

I have to agree Tori is a dubious prize. A damaged woman many men have had who likes to play games with people. Its not very appealing is it.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Just let the dev finish their game, there are gonna be different routes. Some of you NTR haters are so insecure that any hint of it and you shit the bed screaming about it. So sad to see many devs leave their original vision due the behavior of entitled self-serving whining brats.

Literally the thread has pages of people just complaining over and over about the same thing and saying how the dev is shit for including content not suited of their tastes.

LMAO oh dear. Thanks for the laugh.

How about you have a look in the mirror. Nearly every post you have made is you complaining about people complaining about NTR in a game that has no NTR and a game the dev has said numerous times will never have ntr and was never apart of the devs original vision of the game. Just because a tag popped up one day on a pirate porn site, will not make it so.

You could actually contribute to the discussion like a civil adult. You want to change peoples mind, make a fucking effort instead of sulking about it. All you are doing now is making yourself look stupid. Is that what you want?

 

[BangB420]

LMAO oh dear. Thanks for the laugh.

How about you have a look in the mirror. Nearly every post you have made is you complaining about people complaining about NTR in a game that has no NTR and a game the dev has said numerous times will never have ntr and was never apart of the devs original vision of the game. Just because a tag popped up one day on a pirate porn site, will not make it so.

You could actually contribute to the discussion like a civil adult. You want to change peoples mind, make a fucking effort instead of sulking about it. All you are doing now is making yourself look stupid. Is that what you want?

Have you not looked at your own posts and actions? Going as far as contacting the dev to express your dissent towards it? All because they didn't "warn" about certain tags/content. As if games in development don't/can't even change halfway thru. How about just letting the dev do want they want? But no, all you are doing now is making yourself look entitled.

 

[Steve Carter]

can you rephrase that in a more civil way? i'm proud that this thread has gone on for pages upon pages of discussion without devolving into nastiness.

Also Pr0GamerJohnny

This is such a lazy platitude

Don't you get it though?

"Can you please rephrase that more civilly? Oh, and by the way, if you disagree with me it's because you're lazy and don't understand because you can't possibly wrap your head around my profound genius."

He's just here trolling, I'd ignore him if I were you.

 

[BangB420]

Also Pr0GamerJohnny





"Can you please rephrase that more civilly? Oh, and by the way if you disagree with me it's because you're lazy and don't understand because you can't possibly wrap your head around my profound genius."

He's just here trolling, I'd just ignore him if I were you.

What else is new? It's hypocrisy at it's finest, on a pirate porn site nonetheless

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Also Pr0GamerJohnny





"Can you please rephrase that more civilly? Oh, and by the way, if you disagree with me it's because you're lazy and don't understand because you can't possibly wrap your head around my profound genius."

He's just here trolling, I'd just ignore him if I were you.

I agree, "lazy platitude" wasn't civil, I changed it. I didn't mean "dont you get it" in a condesecending way, unfortunately tonality doesnt always carry through text, I meant it more for emphasis at the contrast between Steph's two different interpretations.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Have you not looked at your own posts and actions? Going as far as contacting the dev to express your dissent towards it? All because they didn't "warn" about certain tags/content. As if games in development don't/can't even change halfway thru. How about just letting the dev do want they want? But no, all you are doing now is making yourself look entitled.

The option to engage with him is there why wouldn't I talk advantage of that option? The dev actually invites feedback and plenty of others have engaged in dialogue with him, not just me. I didn't call him names and whine like a baby, I gave him reasons and explanations and when he asked for them I gave him text references as to why I was unhappy with different things and I also passed on to him things I liked about the game as well. He wants CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. What he does with that is entirely up to him. I don't expect him to change anything, even though he has changed a couple of things. There is a difference between invited communication and making posts insulting people. I don't just start attacking him and calling him names its absurd.

The last thing I will say and to keep in mind is, the dev monitors this page. So there is incentive for people to have their say and explain why they have a problem with something in the game or why they like something in the game. So people aren't going to be silent to make you happy when they have a chance to influence the dev. If everyone is saying the same thing then the chances are the devs are going to take note and some times they have. The dev has indicated, he has concepts set in stone like the MCs unconditional love of Steph, but the script is not set in stone which is why he is constantly changing the game, its fluid and people have a chance to influence it. He wants feedback. Why wouldn't people take advantage of that?

 

[Nurikabe]

In theory, we don't understand what the game is, it started with an idea, but it gradually revolutionized that idea

I think that is an accurate way to look at it. It wasn't a diversion or a trick to get people to believe it was one thing and swap it for another thing. It is a new thing. Some will like it, others will not. Me? I am torn between both worlds.

 

[Nafig]

I think that is an accurate way to look at it. It wasn't a diversion or a trick to get people to believe it was one thing and swap it for another thing. It is a new thing. Some will like it, others will not. Me? I am torn between both worlds.

Now it looks like a scam. The author may, for some reason, change the concept of the game, I don’t argue. I am not a principled opponent of ntr. But then the author must go one of two ways:
1. Must openly announce it, talk about the new concept. Players should be able to evaluate the changes. How, not by night, the mentioned ntr, the author wants to add such a route, let him do it, but he will say it honestly. Now the game is imbued with the spirit of ntr, the game has many components that are defined as ntr. It's like wet clothes - water doesn't flow from them, but they are wet. And, oddly enough, MC is tightly tied to Steph, one of them. This causes negative emotions. If the author had announced this openly, made it a separate route, there wouldn’t have been such negativity.
2. I like this option better. Deliver the game as promised, introducing new ideas with additional content, giving players who don't like the changes a way to bypass them. But announce the changes openly.
Now this is all done in secret, nothing is explained, so the players feel deceived. It's my opinion.