Noooooo not the straw I haven't recovered from the Duet straw escapade yet. The trauma is real. Where is Leongen when you need him
On the other hand, MC does not get a choice, you call it a choice to ”chiken out”, when it is game over.I don't understand why so many hate Steph and Tori, when the MC is equally bad
A bunch of replies basically saying the same thing, so rather than quote anyone in particular, I'll just say this:
First, I am a big fan of this game, bought it on Steam, etc. So take all of my comments with that perspective in mind. I like all of the paths.
Second, there is no indication yet that Steph did anything prior to MC's prodding. Maybe she talked about it w/ Jason and Tori, maybe they plotted to try to manipulate MC into the his making his choices. But unless we learn otherwise, we can't assume that she ever acted on that. If she cheated, then she is a cheater. Period. But we don't have any evidence of that yet. Even the receipt on the desk is just evidence of lunch with someone in a public place---it's not a hotel bill or anything, just lunch.
Even in the bar, there are literally a dozen different places where MC could choose not to go down this path. Every single time, when he thinks about missing out on fucking Tori, he doubles down. The MC's decisions are ultimately the only thing driving this car. He cannot bear the thought of not fucking Tori, and he is willing to throw everything he has with Steph away to do so.
The fact that so many comments seem to forget that he is the one demanding this situation just to have the opportunity with Jason's wife just seems a bit biased. Everyone calling Steph and Tori every name in the book should throw the same shame on the MC, who is every bit as culpable. He could have told Jason, "sorry, not interested" (which is an option), and for all we know Steph never fucks anyone else and they live happily ever after. Of course, that means there is no game. But when the MC chooses to go down this path, he has to live with the consequences. And these aren't even unexpected consequences----the MC literally tells Steph that he wants her to do this.
tl;dr - I don't understand why so many hate Steph and Tori, when the MC is equally bad (if not more so).
Well right, that's just it.He could have told Jason, "sorry, not interested" (which is an option), and for all we know Steph never fucks anyone else and they live happily ever after. Of course, that means there is no game.
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tl;dr - I don't understand why so many hate Steph and Tori, when the MC is equally bad (if not more so).
OK, cool, so you don't like the game. Why exactly are you continuing to play it? There are 1000s of other games on this site and other sites. Maybe some of those aren't "Grossssssssss!" to you.On the other hand, MC does not get a choice, you call it a choice to ”chiken out”, when it is game over.
MC never expresses his desire to fkk anyone, yet Steph literally tongue fkks Donni in the mouth instantly.
Where is the build up? She literally denigrats MC for thinking of another woman, yet she herself jumps on another man.
Here is the thing, she jumpd on Donni lap and tongue punctures his face cavity. Grosssssssss!
That shit was never advertised of even hinted all throughout the description, yet here we are, no choice in the mater.
Euwwwwwwwww!
Where did you see MC going crazy? Nothing of the sort. He mcan never talk about Tori as Steph is constantly cutting him off.
MC never actually sat doewn and talked to Tori ever .. so why wlould he go crazy over someone he does not even know?
To be on par with Steph, MC should have literally finger fkked Gina right there, it is basically the equivalent of Steph tongue fkking
Donni face .. but nothing ... literally nothing. Where is the taking of another woman, let alone another woman who is maried?
Nothing of th sort ... False advertising again.
Are you talking about taking a game that has a very clear direction and changing it into a completely different game? Just because you don't like this game? Why not just play a different game that you do like and leave this one alone for the people who like it?Sure, you can be happy with what you got, but we are talking here about where this game might be going,
somewhere new, as opposed to some like you who keep driving the point into the ground that this game is ok as it is.
Devs want something more from this game, so do we. You do not want anything new in here? Are you contempt?
Dev advertised Swinging and Steph not buying it at all - she always literally denigrates MC about Tori,the "Ill fuck who i want and I don't care what you think" Sure, in his own head he may THINK this about Tori, but he still tries to sell it to Steph, he at least cares enough about her feelings to have a little tact.
Another Man's Wifea game that has a very clear direction
Where in this game is the advertised premise afforded to the player?"I have a really strange question for you, so I'm just going to ask it.
Would you like to be in a threesome with me and my wife?"
But even on that call, you can pump the brakes and put an end to it. Continuing to play the game is the consent for her to do it. If you don't want Steph to fuck other people, don't play the game. There are just so many times where the devs clearly tell the player this, yet somehow there is still confusion on the matter?On MC overall being a bad egg, try this as a thought experiment:
On Saturday morning, when you're leaving the convenience store, assuming you went home alone the prior night and Steph calls you up telling you Donnie's coming over, picture MC telling her "That's fine, but you should know if you intend to have him over I'm going to go have some fun of my own today with this girl from my office".
How do you think that would go over with Steph? Yes, I'm picking a low hanging fruit because that was one of the most egregious moments of Steph's character acting like a POS. I can't see anything the MC has done that has the same level of nastiness - the "Ill fuck who i want and I don't care what you think" Sure, in his own head he may THINK this about Tori, but he still tries to sell it to Steph, he at least cares enough about her feelings to have a little tact.
That conversation is literally the first thing that happens in the game. Everything else comes later as a consequence of choices made in that conversation.Where in this game is the advertised premise afforded to the player?
The author promises in the game: “Join him in adventures reserved for swingers.” As you said, we make the wrong choice and therefore do not get this result. Share your walkthrough and what choices you need to make to get what the author promised.That conversation is literally the first thing that happens in the game. Everything else comes later as a consequence of choices made in that conversation.
The dev told us Steph/Tori goes back to the Christmas Party and hence why the dev keeps bringing the Christmas Party up, it is a clue. According to the dev Steph is not cheating, it is a red herring.A bunch of replies basically saying the same thing, so rather than quote anyone in particular, I'll just say this:
First, I am a big fan of this game, bought it on Steam, etc. So take all of my comments with that perspective in mind. I like all of the paths.
Second, there is no indication yet that Steph did anything prior to MC's prodding. Maybe she talked about it w/ Jason and Tori, maybe they plotted to try to manipulate MC into the his making his choices. But unless we learn otherwise, we can't assume that she ever acted on that. If she cheated, then she is a cheater. Period. But we don't have any evidence of that yet. Even the receipt on the desk is just evidence of lunch with someone in a public place---it's not a hotel bill or anything, just lunch.
Even in the bar, there are literally a dozen different places where MC could choose not to go down this path. Every single time, when he thinks about missing out on fucking Tori, he doubles down. The MC's decisions are ultimately the only thing driving this car. He cannot bear the thought of not fucking Tori, and he is willing to throw everything he has with Steph away to do so.
The fact that so many comments seem to forget that he is the one demanding this situation just to have the opportunity with Jason's wife just seems a bit biased. Everyone calling Steph and Tori every name in the book should throw the same shame on the MC, who is every bit as culpable. He could have told Jason, "sorry, not interested" (which is an option), and for all we know Steph never fucks anyone else and they live happily ever after. Of course, that means there is no game. But when the MC chooses to go down this path, he has to live with the consequences. And these aren't even unexpected consequences----the MC literally tells Steph that he wants her to do this.
tl;dr - I don't understand why so many hate Steph and Tori, when the MC is equally bad (if not more so).
This is not addressed to me, but it is a very good question and I'd like to answer it.OK, cool, so you don't like the game. Why exactly are you continuing to play it? There are 1000s of other games on this site and other sites. Maybe some of those aren't "Grossssssssss!" to you.
Are you talking about taking a game that has a very clear direction and changing it into a completely different game? Just because you don't like this game? Why not just play a different game that you do like and leave this one alone for the people who like it?
I don't think there are many people in this thread who're the type to REEE REEE SHES HAVING SEX WITH SOMEONE ELSE HARD PASS NEXT GAME PLS.But even on that call, you can pump the brakes and put an end to it. Continuing to play the game is the consent for her to do it. If you don't want Steph to fuck other people, don't play the game. There are just so many times where the devs clearly tell the player this, yet somehow there is still confusion on the matter
No idea mate. Of course as soon as you say "no this is not an NTR game" you get blasted as anti-NTR when all you are doing is stating a fact ugh.What I don't understand is what caused the massive influx of all these NTR fans, was this game linked on some megathread or something recently?
Forgive me if you weren't referring to me. I've been lurking since 1.4 or 1.5 (I think) and also bought it on Steam. Honestly, maybe because I do like both swinging and NTR games that I am not as hung up on the same subtle changes that some of you are. I don't see any major difference in the story between versions. Of course it didn't progress as far in earlier versions, but the direction seemed obvious to me. Maybe I was reading something into it that you weren't, or vice versa. I don't really think of this as a strictly NTR game. To me, it is a swinging/open relationship game at one end and a cuck game on the other, depending on how you play it. Maybe we disagree on this point, but that's ok.What I don't understand is what caused the massive influx of all these NTR fans, was this game linked on some megathread or something recently?
maybe the netorare (f95zone.to) tag?I don't understand is what caused the massive influx of all these NTR fans, was this game linked on some megathread or something recently?
Yeah maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I swear the game started with just swinging tag, then somewhere along lines netorare tag was added...maybe the netorare (f95zone.to) tag?
Indeed that's just it though! If I could find a lot of other games that were chock full of scenes like the first night foursome or the second night Paul foursome, I'd be playing them instead of posting here! The reason I spend a lot of time on threads like this is because we DONT have a lot of games like this, with what, Exciting Games, Perfect Marriage, Life worth Living...... that's about it. If you want swinging/sharing games and don't want grody old men or overdrawn black guys one's options here are extremely limited.The whole Internet is at your disposal! You can literally find a bunch of colored pencil drawings of all the different characters in Harry Potter fucking each other.
IDK, you might be right, sometimes the tags are added later too.Yeah maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I swear the game started with just swinging tag, then somewhere along lines netorare tag was added...
MC is literally the worst, but so many people self-insert that they don't tend to view it from that perspective. Because one-self can do no wrong. So it's the other characters flaws, never MCtl;dr - I don't understand why so many hate Steph and Tori, when the MC is equally bad (if not more so).