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I get your point, you are right technically but I have to disagree the application of it in this case is not misleading. Its a rare occurrence when we disagree lol.

Lifestyle definitions are evolving definitions, not static definitions. Swinging and cuckoldry in particular are no longer defined the way they once were. Example definitions of swinging:
Dictionary.com 1. the act or practice of being free and uninhibited sexually. 2. the exchanging of spouses for sex.
American Heritage Dictionary - Sexually promiscuous.

If dictionaries can't agree on the definition how is everyone else? Simple, you go with the commonly understood meaning.

I agree swinging is part of open relationships and it is certainly Ethical non-monogamy (some good books on that around) and I agree it is sharing, but I find that such a broad definition of swinging you have put forward as problematic. Its not a definition that is common or understood in that way. Hence why many of us have a different view.

If AMW is about an open relationships then why not say that and solve the problem? Open relationships a broad umbrella. Why advertise it as a swinging game knowing full well the connotation for a majority of people is couples swapping partners (aka popularly called swinging)? Its misleading. Its not a matter of a technical definition, its matter of what the majority of your audience understands is swinging.

I have never heard swinging used to describe a couple playing in separate places, different rooms yes, but different cities? That is heading in to hotwife/cuckold/stag vixen territory. Its no longer looked upon as swinging. The dev has said the game is going in to cuck territory on low confidence. Cuckoldry is just not identified as swinging. Its misleading.

That is my thoughts.
I support.
Swing is a mutual exchange of regular partners to obtain additional sexual satisfaction.
Types of swing
Soft swing - a type of swing in which couples, without exchanging partners, have sex in close proximity to each other.
Closed swing is a type of swing in which couples, having exchanged partners, have sex separately, without being able to see each other.
Open swing is a type of swing in which couples, having also exchanged partners, have sex in close proximity to each other.
The key meaning is “a couple together in one event.” They may be in different rooms, but at the same event.
I would posit things like hotwife/cuckold/stag vixen fall under the broader swinger umbrella in the real world definition. As I posted 20-30 pages back, the real issue is devs and players of games have this obsession with an idea of something that very rarely occurs in the real world; a wife cheating on a husband, and him enjoying it without having any say in the matter.

Before someone says "well tastes are diverse you dont know what everyone likes blah blah blah"....here's the thing, the scenario the ntr gamers love sees the wife scorning/deceiving and walking all over the husband. In the real world, there are certainly women that do that, but they won't stay with that guy for long because they aren't attracted to them nor respect them. (Yes, there are rare cases where a woman hates her husband and fucks around but wont break up because of security or money or whatever).

As any guy who's been in relationships knows, one of the first things that goes out the window when a woman doesnt like or respect you is her willingness to communicate about sexuality. Those two things are like water and oil. Oh, she might fuck around on you, but she's not gonna fill you in.

So I don't think having broad definitions is as much as a problem because a person off the street could easily conflate swinging and hotwifing - the problem is these games are talking about subjects that almost exclusively occur in fantasyland. Even the real world variant of cuckolding with humilation is, as I understand it, largely roleplay based. The wife isn't ACTUALLY saying her husband is a loser who cant satisfy her, it's just dirty talk in the moment that they both enjoy. If she's saying that and MEANS it, then she wouldn't be in a relationship with him, it's not rocket science.
 

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I get your point, you are right technically but I have to disagree the application of it in this case is not misleading. Its a rare occurrence when we disagree lol.

Lifestyle definitions are evolving definitions, not static definitions. Swinging and cuckoldry in particular are no longer defined the way they once were. Example definitions of swinging:
Dictionary.com 1. the act or practice of being free and uninhibited sexually. 2. the exchanging of spouses for sex.
American Heritage Dictionary - Sexually promiscuous.

If dictionaries can't agree on the definition how is everyone else? Simple, you go with the commonly understood meaning.

I agree swinging is part of open relationships and it is certainly Ethical non-monogamy (some good books on that around) and I agree it is sharing, but I find that such a broad definition of swinging you have put forward as problematic. Its not a definition that is common or understood in that way. Hence why many of us have a different view.

If AMW is about an open relationships then why not say that and solve the problem? Open relationships a broad umbrella. Why advertise it as a swinging game knowing full well the connotation for a majority of people is couples swapping partners (aka popularly called swinging)? Its misleading. Its not a matter of a technical definition, its matter of what the majority of your audience understands is swinging.

I have never heard swinging used to describe a couple playing in separate places, different rooms yes, but different cities? That is heading in to hotwife/cuckold/stag vixen territory. Its no longer looked upon as swinging. The dev has said the game is going in to cuck territory on low confidence. Cuckoldry is just not identified as swinging. Its misleading.

That is my thoughts.
You are absolutely right that definitions are forever changing. Our language is evolving (or devolving) constantly. Reading your explanation or what you consider swinging brings up another area where language can differ from practice, which is cultural practice. In North America, swingers often participate as a couple or solo, at the same time and place, or at a different time and place. To throw another umbrella term into the muddled mess, that is all part of the "lifestyle." There is more language we need to add here to understand those important distinctions.

"Shared room" and "separate room", have obvious meanings. But they have practices that can be counterintuitive to someone unfamiliar with lifestyle terminology. Shared room is more obvious and simply means the same time and same place. Separate room can mean not being at the same time and not in the same place. People practicing any type of swinging have many names for the acts they participate in. Someone might call separate room swapping hotwifing, cuckolding, or stag/vixen. But others have no problem considering part of swinging. Often, what distinguishes those specific types of swinging is psychological and behavior. how the wife and husband are treated. The acts are typically the same, and shared room and separate room also apply here.

It is all confusing because despite what a thing is defined as, people participate according to personal values and desires. Definitions still stand and are appropriate. Practical use may vary. What you may call it in your home can be entirely up to you. We live in a time where nothing can be discussed in a simple manner. Everyone has their own definitions and their own practices. What they want to call themselves, regardless of what society calls them, is up to the individual (e.g. Swinger, Cuckold, Hotwife). That is wonderful but a problem when communicating with others. If everyone uses their own definitions or when discussing similar phenomena with different cultural practices, things get messy.

The devs do throw a lot at the player. On one end of the spectrum, there is the open relationship. On the other end, there is the cuckold. That is another area where participants on this thread share complaints. Up to the latest update, all of the action that takes place falls under swinging. We can call the low confident path cuckolding even though the MC participates in the threesome with his wife, simply because of the behavior that takes place during the act. The wife and partner use humiliation, comparison, and other tactics that are considered to be under the umbrella of cuckolding. It is all about perception.

The devs could clear it all up and specifically state exactly what is happening. Even then, there will be people who claim it isn't what they say it is all due to the use of personal definitions and practice. Or what one community calls it versus another. Pretty complicated stuff.
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TL;DR —Whether people consider it swinging or not is typically due to differences in individual and cultural practices. Swinging is not necessarily a mutual swapping of partners. While that is commonly the layperson's understanding and representation of the lifestyle, it is incorrect. There are much more complicated psychological and behavioral processes happening. Open relationship is the most appropriate description for some of the action in the VN. Open relationships fall under the umbrella of swinging. Swinging is part of this VN, although particular paths have morphed into a specific cuckolding path. The devs' description that this VN involves swinging is accurate (while not complete nor is it required to be).
 
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You are absolutely right that definitions are forever changing. Our language is evolving (or devolving) constantly. Reading your explanation or what you consider swinging brings up another area where language can differ from practice, which is cultural practice. In North America, swingers often participate as a couple or solo, at the same time and place, or at a different time and place. To throw another umbrella term into the muddled mess, that is all part of the "lifestyle." There is more language we need to add here to understand those important distinctions.

"Shared room" and "separate room", have obvious meanings. But they have practices that can be counterintuitive to someone unfamiliar with lifestyle terminology. Shared room is more obvious and simply means the same time and same place. Separate room can mean not being at the same time and not in the same place. People practicing any type of swinging have many names for the acts they participate in. Someone might call separate room swapping hotwifing, cuckolding, or stag/vixen. But others have no problem considering part of swinging. Often, what distinguishes those specific types of swinging is psychological and behavior. how the wife and husband are treated. The acts are typically the same, and shared room and separate room also apply here.

It is all confusing because despite what a thing is defined as, people participate according to personal values and desires. Definitions still stand and are appropriate. Practical use may vary. What you may call it in your home can be entirely up to you. We live in a time where nothing can be discussed in a simple manner. Everyone has their own definitions and their own practices. What they want to call themselves, regardless of what society calls them, is up to the individual (e.g. Swinger, Cuckold, Hotwife). That is wonderful but a problem when communicating with others. If everyone uses their own definitions or when discussing similar phenomena with different cultural practices, things get messy.

The devs do throw a lot at the player. On one end of the spectrum, there is the open relationship. On the other end, there is the cuckold. That is another area where participants on this thread share complaints. Up to the latest update, all of the action that takes place falls under swinging. We can call the low confident path cuckolding even though the MC participates in the threesome with his wife, simply because of the behavior that takes place during the act. The wife and partner use humiliation, comparison, and other tactics that are considered to be under the umbrella of cuckolding. It is all about perception.

The devs could clear it all up and specifically state exactly what is happening. Even then, there will be people who claim it isn't what they say it is all due to the use of personal definitions and practice. Or what one community calls it versus another. Pretty complicated stuff.
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TL;DR —Whether people consider it swinging or not is typically due to differences in individual and cultural practices. Swinging is not necessarily a mutual swapping of partners. While that is commonly the layperson's understanding and representation of the lifestyle, it is incorrect. There are much more complicated psychological and behavioral processes happening. Open relationship is the most appropriate description for some of the action in the VN. Open relationships fall under the umbrella of swinging. Swinging is part of this VN, although particular paths have morphed into a specific cuckolding path. The devs' description that this VN involves swinging is accurate (while not complete nor is it required to be).
In my opinion, the entire range of actions included in the concept of “swing”, which are described on the last few pages, is suitable only for specialists. For non-specialist players, “swing” is the definition of the game genre. In this sense, the term should have a narrower, more understandable meaning. The way you define it, its boundaries are blurred. It is impossible to accurately determine the content of the game. It becomes meaningless for a non-specialist. It seems to me that a definition closer to the generally accepted one should be used. It may be necessary to expand the list of genres; concepts should not allow for wide variations in interpretation.
Can of worms.
I'm not against ntr, but for me he is in this game. In my opinion, you can't define the ntr genre by one single action. Look at how many options of actions you have included in the “swing”, and determine ntr from one event. Example script:
1. The villain steals MC's wife.
2. Happy MC throws a party.
3. The party ends with the MC having sex with ten beauties.
4. In the morning MS goes to work.
5. At work, the villain shows MC a video of him fucking MC's wife.
6. In response, MC shows the villain a video from his party.
7. The next day, MC continues to have fun with other girls, not thinking about his wife.
Is this ntr? I'm sure not. For this script to become an ntr, other pieces of the puzzle are needed.
1. The MC is not the initiator of events, except for the first one, with which everything begins (the rhetorical “yes” in the dialogue, “yes or game over”).
2. The MC follows all his wife’s orders (passive “yes” or passive “I don’t mind”).
3. The MC does not defend his interests or his opinion, does not argue.
4. Agreements with MS are not fulfilled or changed (passive “yes” or passive “I don’t mind”).
5. The MS is unable to do anything if events begin to move “not according to plan” (putting his hand into a pan of boiling water, the MS does not pull his hand away).
6. MS does not affect the wife’s actions.
7. The wife behaves duplicitously and hypocritically towards the MS (double standards, secrets).
8. MC can't get rid of his wife.
That's why, for me, the game contains ntr. This is confirmed by the large audience that sees Ntr in the game. You rely on the “letter” of the definition of ntr, we see the “spirit” of ntr.
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You are a damn legend my friend. This should be built in to the renpy platform for all games!

I'll have to learn how to do that. I've been slacking off of late, too much going on.

This is all too confusing for me
All I know is I want to make sweet tender love to Steph

I would also like to buy her some red roses as a sign of my love for her
You're right Joshy, you don't need to make sense of it mate. Play what you like and enjoy it. (y)

You don't need to consider the ins and outs of the devs definitions. Some of us are weird and like to do it for various reasons (like being budding devs or have backgrounds in human behaviour, etc) so we like to engage in fun debates like this and challenging each other. Its all good.

Just ignore the debate and dream of Steph and your straw driven habits. We will be on that topic again soon enough mate. :p
 

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You are a damn legend my friend. This should be built in to the renpy platform for all games!

I'll have to learn how to do that. I've been slacking off of late, too much going on.
The actual software support is already built into renpy, at least for the v7.x+ games I have modded so far. All I did was to add the text input. I am puzzled as to why it is not just there by default especially given the frequent requests by players.
 
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The actual software support is already built into renpy, at least for the v7.x+ games I have modded so far. All I did was to add the text input. I am puzzled as to why it is not just there by default especially given the frequent requests by players.
Agree. When I'm feeling a bit better, I had surgery today, I'll have to have a chat with you about that. I have a few reasons for mastering saved games.

I would posit things like hotwife/cuckold/stag vixen fall under the broader swinger umbrella in the real world definition. As I posted 20-30 pages back, the real issue is devs and players of games have this obsession with an idea of something that very rarely occurs in the real world; a wife cheating on a husband, and him enjoying it without having any say in the matter.

Before someone says "well tastes are diverse you dont know what everyone likes blah blah blah"....here's the thing, the scenario the ntr gamers love sees the wife scorning/deceiving and walking all over the husband. In the real world, there are certainly women that do that, but they won't stay with that guy for long because they aren't attracted to them nor respect them. (Yes, there are rare cases where a woman hates her husband and fucks around but wont break up because of security or money or whatever).

As any guy who's been in relationships knows, one of the first things that goes out the window when a woman doesnt like or respect you is her willingness to communicate about sexuality. Those two things are like water and oil. Oh, she might fuck around on you, but she's not gonna fill you in.

So I don't think having broad definitions is as much as a problem because a person off the street could easily conflate swinging and hotwifing - the problem is these games are talking about subjects that almost exclusively occur in fantasyland. Even the real world variant of cuckolding with humilation is, as I understand it, largely roleplay based. The wife isn't ACTUALLY saying her husband is a loser who cant satisfy her, it's just dirty talk in the moment that they both enjoy. If she's saying that and MEANS it, then she wouldn't be in a relationship with him, it's not rocket science.
I admit to being swayed by yours and Nurikabe's arguments. There are female led relationships that work, where the woman disrespects the husband (outside of roleplay) and he loves it and the couple have a solid relationship. In saying that, they are extremely rare, and a lot of different factors have to come together for it to happen. You are right, 99.9999% of when a woman no longer respects a man the writing is on the wall, and things like money and kids can slow down the inevitable.

You are absolutely right that definitions are forever changing. Our language is evolving (or devolving) constantly. Reading your explanation or what you consider swinging brings up another area where language can differ from practice, which is cultural practice. In North America, swingers often participate as a couple or solo, at the same time and place, or at a different time and place. To throw another umbrella term into the muddled mess, that is all part of the "lifestyle." There is more language we need to add here to understand those important distinctions.

"Shared room" and "separate room", have obvious meanings. But they have practices that can be counterintuitive to someone unfamiliar with lifestyle terminology. Shared room is more obvious and simply means the same time and same place. Separate room can mean not being at the same time and not in the same place. People practicing any type of swinging have many names for the acts they participate in. Someone might call separate room swapping hotwifing, cuckolding, or stag/vixen. But others have no problem considering part of swinging. Often, what distinguishes those specific types of swinging is psychological and behavior. how the wife and husband are treated. The acts are typically the same, and shared room and separate room also apply here.

It is all confusing because despite what a thing is defined as, people participate according to personal values and desires. Definitions still stand and are appropriate. Practical use may vary. What you may call it in your home can be entirely up to you. We live in a time where nothing can be discussed in a simple manner. Everyone has their own definitions and their own practices. What they want to call themselves, regardless of what society calls them, is up to the individual (e.g. Swinger, Cuckold, Hotwife). That is wonderful but a problem when communicating with others. If everyone uses their own definitions or when discussing similar phenomena with different cultural practices, things get messy.

The devs do throw a lot at the player. On one end of the spectrum, there is the open relationship. On the other end, there is the cuckold. That is another area where participants on this thread share complaints. Up to the latest update, all of the action that takes place falls under swinging. We can call the low confident path cuckolding even though the MC participates in the threesome with his wife, simply because of the behavior that takes place during the act. The wife and partner use humiliation, comparison, and other tactics that are considered to be under the umbrella of cuckolding. It is all about perception.

The devs could clear it all up and specifically state exactly what is happening. Even then, there will be people who claim it isn't what they say it is all due to the use of personal definitions and practice. Or what one community calls it versus another. Pretty complicated stuff.
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TL;DR —Whether people consider it swinging or not is typically due to differences in individual and cultural practices. Swinging is not necessarily a mutual swapping of partners. While that is commonly the layperson's understanding and representation of the lifestyle, it is incorrect. There are much more complicated psychological and behavioral processes happening. Open relationship is the most appropriate description for some of the action in the VN. Open relationships fall under the umbrella of swinging. Swinging is part of this VN, although particular paths have morphed into a specific cuckolding path. The devs' description that this VN involves swinging is accurate (while not complete nor is it required to be).
I'm swayed by yours and Johnny's arguments enough to give the devs a reluctant pass. My definitions are coloured by my lifestyle experience and research. My original definitions changed a lot with time to the that of the wider community. My definitions aren't just personal theories, or formed in a vacuum, but accepted lifestyle interpretations. My mistake is accepting these as the standard. They are the standard for my community, but not everyone.

I should not be surprised the dev should have a different definition as he does for so many things in this game.

In my opinion, the entire range of actions included in the concept of “swing”, which are described on the last few pages, is suitable only for specialists. For non-specialist players, “swing” is the definition of the game genre. In this sense, the term should have a narrower, more understandable meaning. The way you define it, its boundaries are blurred. It is impossible to accurately determine the content of the game. It becomes meaningless for a non-specialist. It seems to me that a definition closer to the generally accepted one should be used. It may be necessary to expand the list of genres; concepts should not allow for wide variations in interpretation.
Can of worms.
I'm not against ntr, but for me he is in this game. In my opinion, you can't define the ntr genre by one single action. Look at how many options of actions you have included in the “swing”, and determine ntr from one event. Example script:
1. The villain steals MC's wife.
2. Happy MC throws a party.
3. The party ends with the MC having sex with ten beauties.
4. In the morning MS goes to work.
5. At work, the villain shows MC a video of him fucking MC's wife.
6. In response, MC shows the villain a video from his party.
7. The next day, MC continues to have fun with other girls, not thinking about his wife.
Is this ntr? I'm sure not. For this script to become an ntr, other pieces of the puzzle are needed.
1. The MC is not the initiator of events, except for the first one, with which everything begins (the rhetorical “yes” in the dialogue, “yes or game over”).
2. The MC follows all his wife’s orders (passive “yes” or passive “I don’t mind”).
3. The MC does not defend his interests or his opinion, does not argue.
4. Agreements with MS are not fulfilled or changed (passive “yes” or passive “I don’t mind”).
5. The MS is unable to do anything if events begin to move “not according to plan” (putting his hand into a pan of boiling water, the MS does not pull his hand away).
6. MS does not affect the wife’s actions.
7. The wife behaves duplicitously and hypocritically towards the MS (double standards, secrets).
8. MC can't get rid of his wife.
That's why, for me, the game contains ntr. This is confirmed by the large audience that sees Ntr in the game. You rely on the “letter” of the definition of ntr, we see the “spirit” of ntr.
Something like this.
I enjoyed your post, it raises an interesting view of AMW and NTR. If things were different on this forum and people could have a civil debate, I'd love to pursue it. I just don't want to open the NTR can of worms again when have just finished going down that path. People just don't seem to be able to play nice on the topic.
 
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How you got to those scenes? i've played it a lot of times but still can get those
The pool scene won't be accessible until Steph goes away on her business trip. A sample pool render is shown on Steam where Steph approaches an African American guy in the pool and says "Oh definitely pleasure".

The references to Jamal and Tyrone are a joke, it was just a few of us having some fun with the game.

I hope that clears it up for you.
 

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The pool scene won't be accessible until Steph goes away on her business trip. A sample pool render is shown on Steam where Steph approaches an African American guy in the pool and says "Oh definitely pleasure".

The references to Jamal and Tyrone are a joke, it was just a few of us having some fun with the game.

I hope that clears it up for you.
Thank you! i tought that scene was already in the game
 
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The latest dev update

There must be more being released than just Steph's reveal. I wonder if we will see any of the side paths or will it just be the main Tori/Steph story?




We continue to make progress with the new content, but we don’t have any updates to the game to announce yet. Our work is focused on the next scene, but we are working in several scenes.

For some of the story lines, the end will be coming pretty quick. Basically, all of the story lines have between one and four major scenes left. Once an ending is hit, then we will have the appropriate loop endings available. The loop endings are something we talked about in a previous TP update. And while some endings will come sooner than others, We won't be working on loop endings until all of the core game is complete.

This week we’ve also started building some of the new animations we will need. There are four animated scenes that we are working on for the next couple of updates. Two of the scenes are for Steph and two are for Tori. So we’ll need twelve to fifteen animated sequences for all of that with multiple camera angles bumping that total up between fifteen and twenty. All of that has to be in there or the scenes don’t work, so we’re not going to do what we’ve done a couple of times where we release the content and then go back and fill in. There will be room to add, there’s always room to add, but these two scenes need to be complete when we update. Personally, I’d like to release both as one update, but we can easily break it up into two updates to get content out sooner.

As always, thanks for being here for Early Access.
 

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I am a guy who loves to see the woman's perspective. I would love to see the wife cheating and her point of view. Maybe, she encounters someone just by chance, she wasn't looking for anybody, it just happened and they start a hidden love affair. Maybe, a really young man who makes her feel young again, almost like back in high school times. She starts dressing like a young slut and her husband doesn't know why she changed her appearance, but, he just loves the change and thinks she's doing it for him.
 
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The latest dev update

There must be more being released than just Steph's reveal. I wonder if we will see any of the side paths or will it just be the main Tori/Steph story?




We continue to make progress with the new content, but we don’t have any updates to the game to announce yet. Our work is focused on the next scene, but we are working in several scenes.

For some of the story lines, the end will be coming pretty quick. Basically, all of the story lines have between one and four major scenes left. Once an ending is hit, then we will have the appropriate loop endings available. The loop endings are something we talked about in a previous TP update. And while some endings will come sooner than others, We won't be working on loop endings until all of the core game is complete.

This week we’ve also started building some of the new animations we will need. There are four animated scenes that we are working on for the next couple of updates. Two of the scenes are for Steph and two are for Tori. So we’ll need twelve to fifteen animated sequences for all of that with multiple camera angles bumping that total up between fifteen and twenty. All of that has to be in there or the scenes don’t work, so we’re not going to do what we’ve done a couple of times where we release the content and then go back and fill in. There will be room to add, there’s always room to add, but these two scenes need to be complete when we update. Personally, I’d like to release both as one update, but we can easily break it up into two updates to get content out sooner.

As always, thanks for being here for Early Access.
geez louise.... that's all good and fun, but someone please look at their calender....it's NOVEMBER :LOL:

Thanks for relaying the update posts good or bad though.
 
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Man this game is such a bait and switch. The premise is that you're supposed to fuck another man's wife but all that ends up happening is that other man fucking your wife while his wife is like not today MC? WTF? If player choice does not matter then dev should just make this a kinetic novel and stop wasting everyone's time. The only part of this game I enjoyed was going back to the first choice and turning that fucker down so I could enjoy seeing the pissed off look on the MC's wife's face.
 
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geez louise.... that's all good and fun, but someone please look at their calender....it's NOVEMBER :LOL:

Thanks for relaying the update posts good or bad though.
i'm just curious are they planning to get out of "early access" before year's end or gonna stick to early access until next year tbh
good thing Grumpy Old Aussie bought the game on steam as well,
i legit forgot the game exist on my steam library ever since the alphabetic jason update ngl (well plus there's a lot of games that got my attention more lately)
 

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i'm just curious are they planning to get out of "early access" before year's end or gonna stick to early access until next year tbh
good thing Grumpy Old Aussie bought the game on steam as well,
i legit forgot the game exist on my steam library ever since the alphabetic jason update ngl (well plus there's a lot of games that got my attention more lately)
I can't see it getting out of early access until next year. I don't mind spending a few dollars on Steam for a VN. Devs put a lot of money, time and effort in to them.
There have been a heap of updates lately for a lot of games. Its been great. I have a good backlog to carry me over the slack times.
 
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