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I get your point, you are right technically but I have to disagree the application of it in this case is not misleading. Its a rare occurrence when we disagree lol.
Lifestyle definitions are evolving definitions, not static definitions. Swinging and cuckoldry in particular are no longer defined the way they once were. Example definitions of swinging:
Dictionary.com 1. the act or practice of being free and uninhibited sexually. 2. the exchanging of spouses for sex.
American Heritage Dictionary - Sexually promiscuous.
If dictionaries can't agree on the definition how is everyone else? Simple, you go with the commonly understood meaning.
I agree swinging is part of open relationships and it is certainly Ethical non-monogamy (some good books on that around) and I agree it is sharing, but I find that such a broad definition of swinging you have put forward as problematic. Its not a definition that is common or understood in that way. Hence why many of us have a different view.
If AMW is about an open relationships then why not say that and solve the problem? Open relationships a broad umbrella. Why advertise it as a swinging game knowing full well the connotation for a majority of people is couples swapping partners (aka popularly called swinging)? Its misleading. Its not a matter of a technical definition, its matter of what the majority of your audience understands is swinging.
I have never heard swinging used to describe a couple playing in separate places, different rooms yes, but different cities? That is heading in to hotwife/cuckold/stag vixen territory. Its no longer looked upon as swinging. The dev has said the game is going in to cuck territory on low confidence. Cuckoldry is just not identified as swinging. Its misleading.
That is my thoughts.
I would posit things like hotwife/cuckold/stag vixen fall under the broader swinger umbrella in the real world definition. As I posted 20-30 pages back, the real issue is devs and players of games have this obsession with an idea of something that very rarely occurs in the real world; a wife cheating on a husband, and him enjoying it without having any say in the matter.I support.
Swing is a mutual exchange of regular partners to obtain additional sexual satisfaction.
Types of swing
Soft swing - a type of swing in which couples, without exchanging partners, have sex in close proximity to each other.
Closed swing is a type of swing in which couples, having exchanged partners, have sex separately, without being able to see each other.
Open swing is a type of swing in which couples, having also exchanged partners, have sex in close proximity to each other.
The key meaning is “a couple together in one event.” They may be in different rooms, but at the same event.
Before someone says "well tastes are diverse you dont know what everyone likes blah blah blah"....here's the thing, the scenario the ntr gamers love sees the wife scorning/deceiving and walking all over the husband. In the real world, there are certainly women that do that, but they won't stay with that guy for long because they aren't attracted to them nor respect them. (Yes, there are rare cases where a woman hates her husband and fucks around but wont break up because of security or money or whatever).
As any guy who's been in relationships knows, one of the first things that goes out the window when a woman doesnt like or respect you is her willingness to communicate about sexuality. Those two things are like water and oil. Oh, she might fuck around on you, but she's not gonna fill you in.
So I don't think having broad definitions is as much as a problem because a person off the street could easily conflate swinging and hotwifing - the problem is these games are talking about subjects that almost exclusively occur in fantasyland. Even the real world variant of cuckolding with humilation is, as I understand it, largely roleplay based. The wife isn't ACTUALLY saying her husband is a loser who cant satisfy her, it's just dirty talk in the moment that they both enjoy. If she's saying that and MEANS it, then she wouldn't be in a relationship with him, it's not rocket science.