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Doesn't matter to me I just want someone besides the mc to get her pregnant
The mc would still be the dad imo
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I agree with the confusion the "confidence" meter can cause for players. I view this more as a "content selection" option, to indicate reader preference to the author. After all, the reader is the one selecting what reactions they want to have - so if they're low C Steph is going to pick up on this and give the traditional low C preferred content (otherwise why aren't you acting like an alpha)? To the point of this content being counterintuitive and giving unexpected results, I agree - Steph reacting like she does to the phone call pisses me off too. I hope the authors continue to chop/adjust the story to more closely align choices with expectations.
I think this game could turn out similar to another of my new favorites, Babysitters. That game is basically set up as a big NTR story, but there's a path through it where the wife Lara is completely loyal and the NTR guys just get shut down constantly. It's great, and she has quickly become one of my favorite "NTR game" wives. The player gets to choose which content they want to see in a given playthrough. Those games have to start somewhere before they slice everything up, and not every author does it well, but I can see this game in it's final form looking a lot like that.
But you don't like NTR/Cheating. You are a complex man, Joshy. Complex!
This game will never measure up to Babysitters. In "Babysitters" the MC/player controls the events, in this game the MC dildos, to satisfy Steph, nothing depends on him. For this game to catch up with Babysitters, the MC has to have choices and the choices have to work. This will never happen in this game.
Five minutes after Donny leaves, with his sperm still leaking out of Steph, she again blackmails MC and puts forward a new ultimatum:
s "Do you mean I'd end up fucking your friend?"
e "Well that's not exactly what I was thinking."
s "If I agree to this, you better be comfortable with something like that happening."
This is Love? Is this respect for the MC?
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The player does make choices in this game, you just don't like how the authors wrote the outcomes of those choices. I agree that Babysitters is a stellar game and this one isn't on the same level right now. AMW is also several years behind in development time. Both devs seem to be shooting for the same type of story though, slice of life with dark/kinky scenarios that are tuned to the reader's indicated preferences.
Is your main gripe with this game that the low confidence route includes Steph dominating the MC instead of coddling him? Not giving undying deference to the guy that she knows is weaselly snooping on her, lying to her, angling to fuck Tori without being willing to let her experiment as well, etc. makes sense to me. Low-C MC is utterly failing to gain Steph's respect with most of his actions (Steph knows all about what MC is trying to do from the start, so Low-C trying to manipulate her probably comes off as offensive and gross to her). In my mind, the author is servicing a particular kink on those Low-C routes (a kink which is looking for a domineering partner and some element of that NTR despair/abuse). Don't create an MC with the spine of a wet dishrag in a dark fantasy porn game and then expect a traditional true love story where the LI teaches the MC how to be an honest man, with 30 scenes of one on one sex and at the end they carefully select from 75 partners at the swing club but leave without picking any because they realize they're the only ones for each other. Like, do you want to play this game as a cuck persona who doesn't get cucked? As a swinger who doesn't like their wife fucking other people? That doesn't seem to be what the author is going for, if you haven't noticed by now it might be too late. I'm genuinely confused about what specific main story beats could be updated/adjusted to make you happy. Do you have the same issues with the high confidence content as you do with the low confidence content?
You often describe basic sharing scenarios as if they're inherently offensive, so I'm confused about what draws you to this genre. Donny was probably a bad choice for the authors to pick as the first partner, I agree he's offensive. They don't have the resources to let us pick from 40 personality type / physique combos for our wife's sharing partner based on every reader's specific criteria. I think Donny was chosen to show how Steph can be thrown off her otherwise very "in control" attitude when presented with a sexually charged environment. He's intentionally overly aggressive, not who you would expect her to be attracted to, but it fits because part of Steph's recurring fantasies are about being controlled and dominated. I think it's an early clue for readers that something is up with her ("She usually doesn't behave like this, I wonder why she is now..."). It's contentious content that isn't for all tastes, and has caused many readers to immediately distrust everything else related to Steph, but it's not unreasonable from the perspective of the narrative.
Steph is only open to this lifestyle if she gets to fuck guys too. She's making sure the MC understands that she's not going to sit at home twiddling her thumbs while he goes out and fucks other women. Babysitters' Lara is probably one of the hottest cuckqueans in gaming, but Steph is very much not a cuckquean. There is a sacrifice to make for sleeping with other women in this game. Steph is also perfectly happy to call the whole thing off if the MC wants. You've advocated for open communication - this is it, it's just more blunt than you would prefer. Does Steph need to allow you to sleep with whoever you want, without her having that freedom, to prove love and respect in your mind? What other alternative than "OK, let me sleep around too or I'm not comfortable with the lifestyle" do you expect from a woman with these preferences? We know Steph can be offensive in how she conveys her opinions on a range of subjects, but the meaning behind what she's saying shouldn't be considered offensive or surprising. If the MC wants to swing, a lot more sperm than Donny's is going to be leaking out of her in the future (somewhere in the distance, I think I just heard Joshy howl in delight). I'm sure if the devs had the resources they'd make 50 variants of Steph that we all love, but they ultimately have to make some limiting decisions that are going to piss people off. This author clearly needs some swinging to occur for their full story vision to come to fruition and we as readers need to accept that or bail.
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Well ... MC and Steph deserve eachother as the totla newbs in the world of being taken advantage by assholes who deserve absolutely nothing
but ignorance, but with the idiotic scenarios they coin in their frivolous asexual minds, we get this dumpsterfire of a sharing game.
Just as you say MC does his idiotic remarks, Steph professes devotion to MC at the house in the very beginning,
then belittles him to the point of calling it quits at the bar, where she makes the most aggregious remarks
about MC and his idiotic idea, which is not even his, it is the lie Jason tells MC, to bang Tori, a woman
he never even talked to in his life, let alone think anything of, as she was the wife of his bully +hustler ”friend”.
- That is all Steph, never MC, as MC can never tell or influence Steph but only agree or not to her wild free use brainless whore attitude towards sharing- being the town bycicle while lying and cheating on MC - which is a total disconnect from what devs profess and what MC is doing: smiling and eating all the shit Steph is pouring down his throat every time.
We are not talking about the fact Steph called the day after a total stranger who lacks any and all social skill and has nothing to offer in the bedroom at all - absolute carbon copy of MC with the attitude of a plank and asshole antics.
Steph then proceeds to keep throwing herself on absolute subhuman brain dead strangers, with nothing like what a hook up or a one night stand would entail - this is going against countless noves and series and movies lore that tell you the whole deal: what you have to do is fuck and forget, loose the number, loose the name, never ever seek the brain dead dildo idiot again.
The men in this game are just shlongs for players to keep looking at,
there are no gains either on sharing or on cheating path - because the idiots getting a free use Steph
are total nobodies to us and to the plot.
Saying this idiot is ok for a one night stand based on how much you like his shlong or abs is total nonsense.
but ignorance, but with the idiotic scenarios they coin in their frivolous asexual minds, we get this dumpsterfire of a sharing game.
Just as you say MC does his idiotic remarks, Steph professes devotion to MC at the house in the very beginning,
then belittles him to the point of calling it quits at the bar, where she makes the most aggregious remarks
about MC and his idiotic idea, which is not even his, it is the lie Jason tells MC, to bang Tori, a woman
he never even talked to in his life, let alone think anything of, as she was the wife of his bully +hustler ”friend”.
Then, in no time at all, Steph disrespects MC, lies to him and forces Doni down his throat - remember that by this time, there is never even a wisk of anything with or about Tori, no plan and no idea, just whatever dumb words MC remembered from what Jason had told him earlier: Steph proceeds to fkk everithing that moves, her initiating, her double downing on Doni, this inanimate fkking decrepit piece of furniture of a man, being the mute brain dead offputting dumb as nails tool in the bedroom and all around disgusting dumpsterfire of a man.
- That is all Steph, never MC, as MC can never tell or influence Steph but only agree or not to her wild free use brainless whore attitude towards sharing- being the town bycicle while lying and cheating on MC - which is a total disconnect from what devs profess and what MC is doing: smiling and eating all the shit Steph is pouring down his throat every time.
We are not talking about the fact Steph called the day after a total stranger who lacks any and all social skill and has nothing to offer in the bedroom at all - absolute carbon copy of MC with the attitude of a plank and asshole antics.
Steph then proceeds to keep throwing herself on absolute subhuman brain dead strangers, with nothing like what a hook up or a one night stand would entail - this is going against countless noves and series and movies lore that tell you the whole deal: what you have to do is fuck and forget, loose the number, loose the name, never ever seek the brain dead dildo idiot again.
The men in this game are just shlongs for players to keep looking at,
there are no gains either on sharing or on cheating path - because the idiots getting a free use Steph
are total nobodies to us and to the plot.
Saying this idiot is ok for a one night stand based on how much you like his shlong or abs is total nonsense.
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You are not paying attention, I’m already used to the fact that my opponents’ favorite argument is “you chose the LC route.” That's why I always indicate which route the scene is on. The scenes I listed take place on the HC route and “dom1”=5, there is nowhere higher.
"Do you have the same issues with the high confidence content as you do with the low confidence content? "
I didn't notice any difference in Steph's ACTIONS, words don't matter. I judge people by their deeds, not their words.
Let's make it simpler. Give an example of the influence of the MC on the main plot, what changes in events.
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I commend you for highlighting the path you are talking about. We need to recognise the different routes as Steph is different on each route. Its hard with this game because the confidence system isn't the best. With the confidence resetting every scene and questionable responses at times, and no clear paths, its easy to cross multiple paths in a play through. So we can get a distorted view of each Steph version. It really irks me, because if I am playing the HC route I have to force myself to take some options I wouldn't normally take or don't want to take.
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Well, you can just quote it like I did. Just people will think you did it and if there are any issues with it, I wouldn't see the replies about something being dead/messed up.
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Now that we have talked about it
I do think it would be really hot if Jason got Steph pregnant
It would be a secret between all four of us
I do think it would be really hot if Jason got Steph pregnant
It would be a secret between all four of us
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A bitch like Steph as a mother, and a dumb ass like Jason as a father, poor kid.
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I wouldn't consider Jason the dad
That would be my job bro
He is just a walking dick who is good for one thing
I'm not biased or anything
But I think Steph would be a good mum
She is like a beautiful & innocent angel
wow the dev is really taking his time to make another update, and it probably wont be a longer update than the previous ones
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Thank you for taking the time to read my comments, I can't make you understand them if you're too angry about either the story or my position to have an honest discussion.
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Whether Gina/Donny come home or not on the first night and how the rest of that night plays out. Whether the MC and Steph pursue the lifestyle at all once Steph lays out her ultimatum about wanting to sleep with other men (the "remember, you don't need to play this game if you don't like it" moment). Whether the MC pursues other women like Amber (I think that was her name - girl at the store and club). Whether Paul goes home with the couple or even meets them. Many smaller decisions that determine the flavor of conversation with Steph. Probably a lot to do with that whole trading side-story and how the swinging (or lack of it) plays out with Jason and Tori over the rest of the game, as the devs have discussed on their roadmap. Do these not count or something?
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According to the dev updates it is quite a substantial update with new content and some changes to old content. The paths to skip Tori are getting content, there Steph's reveal, MCs night with Tori, Steph's business trip and the MC gets a night with Gina by the look. So a bit there.
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You are not paying attention. You are confusing warm with soft. I asked for an example of the influence of the MC on the main plot. I'm not interested in decorations. Main stages:
1. Steph/Donny sex. Main plot, Steph has to fuck Donny. It doesn’t matter which side she climbs onto Donny’s dick, it doesn’t matter whether it’s Friday or Saturday. Can MS radically change this event?
2. Lunch with Suzy. Main plot, Steph wants to stroke his ego in front of Suzy. For this she uses MC and Gina. Steph orders MC to invite Gina. Can MC refuse to invite Gina? Can MC refuse to participate in this theater of the absurd? Route HC.
3. Club and after club. Main plot, MC has to fuck Gina on Steph's orders. Amber/Paul are dummies, they have no influence on the events of the main story. Amber/Paul create the illusion of choice, the illusion of the importance of the MC, this is a lie. No matter what combination you use them with or without them, the Steph/Gina/MC base doesn't change. Can MC not go to the club? Can MC refuse Gina? Route HC.
4. Jason/Tori evening. The main plot, striptease and sex Steph (with MC or Jason), as well as MC learns about Jason's betrayal. Try to go through this event without striptease and sex. I already talked about Steph’s promise “not to undress” on the “dom1=5” route. Is there an option where Steph keeps his promise? Can MC stop Steph during a striptease by reminding her of her promise? Can MC stop Steph during sex by reminding her of her promise? The latest update added the ability to stop Steph/Jason sex. But, in fact, the MC takes Steph off Jason's dick. Can MC up and leave, breaking off relations with Jason/Tori after learning of Jason's betrayal? Route "dom1=5".
Changing the dialogues is not fundamental. Here's an example:
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For this reason, I always talk about the main line only. Words don't matter, only actions matter.