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Steph is only open to this lifestyle if she gets to fuck guys too. She's making sure the MC understands that she's not going to sit at home twiddling her thumbs while he goes out and fucks other women.
If this game was about love, respect and swingers, then in this dialogue:
s "Do you mean I'd end up fucking your friend?"
scene ikitch6e
e "Well that's not exactly what I was thinking."
scene ikitch7s
s "If I agree to this, you better be comfortable with something like that happening."
Steph's response should be: "MC, I understand your motives. I love and respect you. I won't fuck with Jason." MC doesn't stop her from fucking other guys. But our game is not about love and respect.
Our Steph stomps her hooves and declares: “I don’t care about you and your opinion. When I fuck Jason, you will sit under the chair and not bark.”
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You are not paying attention. You are confusing warm with soft. I asked for an example of the influence of the MC on the main plot. I'm not interested in decorations. Main stages:
1. Steph/Donny sex. Main plot, Steph has to fuck Donny. It doesn’t matter which side she climbs onto Donny’s dick, it doesn’t matter whether it’s Friday or Saturday. Can MS radically change this event?
2. Lunch with Suzy. Main plot, Steph wants to stroke his ego in front of Suzy. For this she uses MC and Gina. Steph orders MC to invite Gina. Can MC refuse to invite Gina? Can MC refuse to participate in this theater of the absurd? Route HC.
3. Club and after club. Main plot, MC has to fuck Gina on Steph's orders. Amber/Paul are dummies, they have no influence on the events of the main story. Amber/Paul create the illusion of choice, the illusion of the importance of the MC, this is a lie. No matter what combination you use them with or without them, the Steph/Gina/MC base doesn't change. Can MC not go to the club? Can MC refuse Gina? Route HC.
4. Jason/Tori evening. The main plot, striptease and sex Steph (with MC or Jason), as well as MC learns about Jason's betrayal. Try to go through this event without striptease and sex. I already talked about Steph’s promise “not to undress” on the “dom1=5” route. Is there an option where Steph keeps his promise? Can MC stop Steph during a striptease by reminding her of her promise? Can MC stop Steph during sex by reminding her of her promise? The latest update added the ability to stop Steph/Jason sex. But, in fact, the MC takes Steph off Jason's dick. Can MC up and leave, breaking off relations with Jason/Tori after learning of Jason's betrayal? Route "dom1=5".
Changing the dialogues is not fundamental. Here's an example:
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if you look closely, you will notice that seemingly different dialogues lead to the same scene. There are a huge number of such examples, don’t be lazy and look at the scripts.
For this reason, I always talk about the main line only. Words don't matter, only actions matter.
Points 1, 2 , and 3 are great points.
Point 4 is more of a grey area for two reasons. In the new update you can bypass Tori altogether (I can't wait) and the dev said he is untying those Tori/Jason ends, so those options will change and head to different places. So we might just have to wait and see what happens here.

If this game was about love, respect and swingers, then in this dialogue:
s "Do you mean I'd end up fucking your friend?"
scene ikitch6e
e "Well that's not exactly what I was thinking."
scene ikitch7s
s "If I agree to this, you better be comfortable with something like that happening."
Steph's response should be: "MC, I understand your motives. I love and respect you. I won't fuck with Jason." MC doesn't stop her from fucking other guys. But our game is not about love and respect.
You are putting in evidence to support your arguments, I like it. I always try and provide an example with my arguments as well but not with as much detail, maybe I should.

I have to agree with you here. To add to that. the chat before the Tori visit Steph contradicts herself, when she agrees not to fuck friends and then says she is going after Jason a few lines later. She is full of hypocrisy.

The dev said MC has unconditional love for Steph, but it isn't reciprocated. I don't know when unconditional love became 'treat me anyway you like and I will just accept it', but the devs think it does. Sure Steph says some nice words that have been added to the HC path and some of the nasty stuff has been removed from the HC path. Going by her words she seems okay. Its her actions and hypocrisy that just don't support a respectful relationship and I would say not a loving relationship, though some would disagree. Unless the devs are going to adjust her actions for the HC path, there is not a love and respect path in the game. Then Steph was made to drive us crazy, maybe this is part of that frustrating dynamic.

I can't get past the hurdle that she has no respect for the MC, and that she settled for him. Steph says a couple of times how she is "pledged" to him. What a weird word to describe your relationship, like she is reluctantly performing some sort of duty or oath being married to him. She may love him, but not like he loves her and its not a respectful love by any means. Its more like a comfortable love because he is there for her, and she has no one else (certainly not her toxic sister). She seems to resent him for it. I could be wrong, but that is how it looks to me at this stage of the game. It could all be part of the Steph drives us crazy BS from the devs. Maybe the reveal will give reason to explain her behaviour and shed new light, it certainly won't justify the way she treats him on any path.
 

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The tone of all arguments should be that of this game - Steph is lambasting MC and is threatening and shouting,
so your call for a level ehaded argument when this game is about strong anguish and overflowing emotions,
most being on the sleeve of Steph barking her demands and shouting her scores when she has MC beat,
is totally outta place in this game.
Thank you for taking the time to read my comments, I can't make you understand them if you're too angry about either the story or my position to have an honest discussion.
This story shows a bunch of hookups and literally one night stands that get stretched out into offputting drags.
Donni never gets anywhere, just a tool in Steph arsenal of blundering idiots she throws at MC.

Remember that MC never does anything about whatever Jason hustled him into untill they get to Jason house,
effectively MC is not lusting for anyone, as MC has never even met or ever talked to Tori, how would he know?

On the other hand, Steph is already the whore of the town, effectively dogging with Doni in the bar and the others in the club - while MC gets one night stands by this or that broad. MC never does anything meaningful on the path to Tori, absolutely fuck all, while Steph, by the time we reach Jason home, is the town bycicle with more men eaten than any two bit whore around.

Whether Gina/Donny come home or not on the first night and how the rest of that night plays out. Whether the MC and Steph pursue the lifestyle at all once Steph lays out her ultimatum about wanting to sleep with other men (the "remember, you don't need to play this game if you don't like it" moment). Whether the MC pursues other women like Amber (I think that was her name - girl at the store and club). Whether Paul goes home with the couple or even meets them. Many smaller decisions that determine the flavor of conversation with Steph. Probably a lot to do with that whole trading side-story and how the swinging (or lack of it) plays out with Jason and Tori over the rest of the game, as the devs have discussed on their roadmap. Do these not count or something?
MC is never about sleeping with other women or Steph sleeping with anyone. So the plan is all Steph,
we are never in control of MC as he lays out his demand...- oh wait, MC never has any demand or scope or reason or any goal, because Steph outright stomps them out right the minute MC tells her about Jason and his nonsense.
 
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Road map? Did I miss something. Where is there a road map?
I was referring to the discussions they've had about reactions to Steph, early fallout from the Tori/Jason games, and their goals with future development + script adjustments. Dev posts would have been more accurate than roadmap.


You are not paying attention. You are confusing warm with soft. I asked for an example of the influence of the MC on the main plot. I'm not interested in decorations.
Main plot elements have to be forced in a game for an author to tell their story. According to you the optional paths already there are an illusion of choice because they're optional? How do you tell a coherent story if everything is optional to a reader? Steph wanting to be dominated appears to be baked into the main plot. Steph enjoys dominating MC in some routes as well, and I suspect she has a wide variety of other kinks and fantasies that would scare away the average partner. They both sleep with other people leading up to the engagement with Tori and Jason. The couple's irresponsible handling of all this is the story and seemingly where the central conflict/climax is going to come from. This isn't a "pick your favorite kinks comfortably from a buffet" game, it's a specific story with some variability. You need to step outside of your own preferences and get a different perspective on the characters - the MC isn't as mad and angsty about Steph's behavior as you are. Anything forced by the author in the final story is there because it's important to develop the plot or characterization, unless they mention not having the time and resources to add more divergent paths.


if you look closely, you will notice that seemingly different dialogues lead to the same scene.
This is how almost all choice based stories are scripted. Are you paying attention? I'm not avoiding script combing out of laziness, I'm comfortable with my understanding of my preferred route's plot. The example you give for how the developer could reasonably add customization is a minor dialogue change, but you were calling these unimportant "decorations" when I listed other similar examples already in the game. I assume more changes will come because this is not a finished game yet.


Main stages:
It's a $6 game from an indie dev without a Patreon. You may be expecting more than the devs can reasonably deliver if they're already thinking of wrapping the game up soon. To your points:

1. Steph wants to fuck alpha men (represented by Donny) in order to let the MC fuck other women, or the couple doesn't swing. The dev wants the couple to have these sexual partners for their story to work, so they've forced sharing scenarios but let us influence how they happen. I think there's a fair variety of choice in how the forced sharing plays out. I've already explained why I believe a dominant personality was chosen by the authors for Donny. Steph's difficulty controlling herself around a dominant partner in the story makes many readers super angry, I get it. Not everybody entirely hates what happens on these paths though, and many don't see Steph's actions as "betrayal." My guy had a great time fucking Gina downstairs while yours was probably sulking in the guest room. I think most on these forums understand the limits of small budget indie porn game development with the "pick a path" format.

2. MC doesn't have to embrace Gina, but she's in the scene. What were you hoping to be able to do, go on a walk by yourself instead of teasing Steph's stuck up sister with a hot guest? You need interaction between main characters, that's kind of how stories are told. Other than the kitchen BJ for players who like Gina and the discovery of the trader connection to Gina's office, this forced scene sets up important information about Chuck. Given how her sister behaves through the she-hulk episode, it also highlights a major figure in Steph's formative years being a negative influence. A lot of that dating/ideal partner talk came up because Gina was there. Like Donny, the authors probably made Steph's sister flawed for a reason.

3. It sounds like Gina will be involved somehow in the trading scheme side story. Characters important to the plot need screen time to fulfill their role, so she and Jason will continue to be around until that story is resolved. Gina is also MC's counterbalance to Donny, they're both mandatory troublemaking characters attached to the opposite partner. The devs have limited time and probably figured it's OK to assume people playing the swinging porn game wanted to see their partner fuck someone and wanted MC to fuck others. They've talked about adding escape routes in the future, maybe this will be one. What percentage of current readers do you think would be stoked to see they spent limited development time on "Don't fuck anyone" routes? If these are added, they will probably come at the end of development.

4. Are you telling me there's mandatory soft-swinging content in this swinging game!? What were they thinking, I wanted to go shopping for a new driver and then play $1/hole couples golf for that scene. What evidence of betrayal do you have on Jason? It looks to me like he's an enthusiastic swinger who is probably being duped by Tori as much as MC, but it's been awhile since I've played through the latest end game content. I'm sure I missed some clues and behaviors on other paths that I would find offensive like the cup of water with Donny. Jason didn't strike me as an asshole like Donny, at least from memory.

But, in fact, the MC takes Steph off Jason's dick.
Doesn't MC need to consent to Jason and Steph getting it on in the latest update for that to happen? When I last played there was definitely a route where you ask her not to fuck Jason and it doesn't happen. I believe the dev mentioned a "no thanks Tori/Jason" path in the future, just wait until that's added and walk out of their place to a head canon divorce and freedom.

If this game was about love, respect and swingers
This game is about a couple's flawed approach to swinging, not love and respect. Why are you still so confused about this and unable to move past it? Do you think a story about love and respect starts with a series of big secrets? Your cited conversation happens after MC tells Steph about meeting Amber, and Steph encourages hooking up with her at the club later. Steph says "I also want to be absolutely certain I can be comfortable with you fucking around before we meet with Jason and Tori." What do you think she might be doing by (stupidly) pushing boundaries, both for her and MC, in the early story? The player triggers your posted response only by choosing the gung-ho on swinging, High-C "If I do this, it could lead to more for both of us" option. The Low-C and standard options get different responses from Steph that refer to her finding generic partners or calling Donny when MC is out fucking women, only later mentioning that he needs to consider it happening with Jason and not as forcefully ("It's exciting, but scary too. We have to be sure we can handle all of this"). The MC seems to like the discussion, even if you personally don't (that's important). This couple is deciding on SWINGING, ultimately there is no "OK I won't fuck Jason" at the end of the road if MC wants Tori. It's swing, or don't. The MC (and apparently players) need to hear that.
 
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Points 1, 2 , and 3 are great points.
Point 4 is more of a grey area for two reasons. In the new update you can bypass Tori altogether (I can't wait) and the dev said he is untying those Tori/Jason ends, so those options will change and head to different places. So we might just have to wait and see what happens here.


You are putting in evidence to support your arguments, I like it. I always try and provide an example with my arguments as well but not with as much detail, maybe I should.

I have to agree with you here. To add to that. the chat before the Tori visit Steph contradicts herself, when she agrees not to fuck friends and then says she is going after Jason a few lines later. She is full of hypocrisy.

The dev said MC has unconditional love for Steph, but it isn't reciprocated. I don't know when unconditional love became 'treat me anyway you like and I will just accept it', but the devs think it does. Sure Steph says some nice words that have been added to the HC path and some of the nasty stuff has been removed from the HC path. Going by her words she seems okay. Its her actions and hypocrisy that just don't support a respectful relationship and I would say not a loving relationship, though some would disagree. Unless the devs are going to adjust her actions for the HC path, there is not a love and respect path in the game. Then Steph was made to drive us crazy, maybe this is part of that frustrating dynamic.

I can't get past the hurdle that she has no respect for the MC, and that she settled for him. Steph says a couple of times how she is "pledged" to him. What a weird word to describe your relationship, like she is reluctantly performing some sort of duty or oath being married to him. She may love him, but not like he loves her and its not a respectful love by any means. Its more like a comfortable love because he is there for her, and she has no one else (certainly not her toxic sister). She seems to resent him for it. I could be wrong, but that is how it looks to me at this stage of the game. It could all be part of the Steph drives us crazy BS from the devs. Maybe the reveal will give reason to explain her behaviour and shed new light, it certainly won't justify the way she treats him on any path.
This is true. In the conversation, Suzy mentions that Steph had a fight with Chuck. This is immediately followed by a scandal with Jeff at the party. After the scandal, Steph met MC. Steph quarreled with her usual surroundings. On a wave of emotions, she met a guy who is not a genius, but not part of Steph’s usual social circle. He is an unusual wonder for her. New sensations and Steph marries the guy. For a while Steph was comfortable, there was no external sexual pressure, everything was soft and comfortable. MC does not exert dominant pressure. The novelty has worn off, and between my legs it itches. The steam pressure under the lid of the Steph boiler increases. Players understand that the author's statement that Steph did not cheat on MC is not substantiated in any way in the game. The author just farted in the water. Steph's actions belie this statement. Dramatically changed attitude towards MC as soon as he agreed that Steph could fuck anyone. You look at these two days and don’t believe in “four years of love and a happy marriage.”
 

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I was referring to the discussions they've had about reactions to Steph, early fallout from the Tori/Jason games, and their goals with future development + script adjustments. Dev posts would have been more accurate than roadmap.




Main plot elements have to be forced in a game for an author to tell their story. According to you the optional paths already there are an illusion of choice because they're optional? How do you tell a coherent story if everything is optional to a reader? Steph wanting to be dominated appears to be baked into the main plot. Steph enjoys dominating MC in some routes as well, and I suspect she has a wide variety of other kinks and fantasies that would scare away the average partner. They both sleep with other people leading up to the engagement with Tori and Jason. The couple's irresponsible handling of all this is the story and seemingly where the central conflict/climax is going to come from. This isn't a "pick your favorite kinks comfortably from a buffet" game, it's a specific story with some variability. You need to step outside of your own preferences and get a different perspective on the characters - the MC isn't as mad and angsty about Steph's behavior as you are. Anything forced by the author in the final story is there because it's important to develop the plot or characterization, unless they mention not having the time and resources to add more divergent paths.




This is how almost all choice based stories are scripted. Are you paying attention? I'm not avoiding script combing out of laziness, I'm comfortable with my understanding of my preferred route's plot. The example you give for how the developer could reasonably add customization is a minor dialogue change, but you were calling these unimportant "decorations" when I listed other similar examples already in the game. I assume more changes will come because this is not a finished game yet.




It's a $6 game from an indie dev without a Patreon. You may be expecting more than the devs can reasonably deliver if they're already thinking of wrapping the game up soon. To your points:

1. Steph wants to fuck alpha men (represented by Donny) in order to let the MC fuck other women, or the couple doesn't swing. The dev wants the couple to have these sexual partners for their story to work, so they've forced sharing scenarios but let us influence how they happen. I think there's a fair variety of choice in how the forced sharing plays out. I've already explained why I believe a dominant personality was chosen by the authors for Donny. Steph's difficulty controlling herself around a dominant partner in the story makes many readers super angry, I get it. Not everybody entirely hates what happens on these paths though, and many don't see Steph's actions as "betrayal." My guy had a great time fucking Gina downstairs while yours was probably sulking in the guest room. I think most on these forums understand the limits of small budget indie porn game development with the "pick a path" format.

2. MC doesn't have to embrace Gina, but she's in the scene. What were you hoping to be able to do, go on a walk by yourself instead of teasing Steph's stuck up sister with a hot guest? You need interaction between main characters, that's kind of how stories are told. Other than the kitchen BJ for players who like Gina and the discovery of the trader connection to Gina's office, this forced scene sets up important information about Chuck. Given how her sister behaves through the she-hulk episode, it also highlights a major figure in Steph's formative years being a negative influence. A lot of that dating/ideal partner talk came up because Gina was there. Like Donny, the authors probably made Steph's sister flawed for a reason.

3. It sounds like Gina will be involved somehow in the trading scheme side story. Characters important to the plot need screen time to fulfill their role, so she and Jason will continue to be around until that story is resolved. Gina is also MC's counterbalance to Donny, they're both mandatory troublemaking characters attached to the opposite partner. The devs have limited time and probably figured it's OK to assume people playing the swinging porn game wanted to see their partner fuck someone and wanted MC to fuck others. They've talked about adding escape routes in the future, maybe this will be one. What percentage of current readers do you think would be stoked to see they spent limited development time on "Don't fuck anyone" routes? If these are added, they will probably come at the end of development.

4. Are you telling me there's mandatory soft-swinging content in this swinging game!? What were they thinking, I wanted to go shopping for a new driver and then play $1/hole couples golf for that scene. What evidence of betrayal do you have on Jason? It looks to me like he's an enthusiastic swinger who is probably being duped by Tori as much as MC, but it's been awhile since I've played through the latest end game content. I'm sure I missed some clues and behaviors on other paths that I would find offensive like the cup of water with Donny. Jason didn't strike me as an asshole like Donny, at least from memory.



Doesn't MC need to consent to Jason and Steph getting it on in the latest update for that to happen? When I last played there was definitely a route where you ask her not to fuck Jason and it doesn't happen. I believe the dev mentioned a "no thanks Tori/Jason" path in the future, just wait until that's added and walk out of their place to a head canon divorce and freedom.



This game is about a couple's flawed approach to swinging, not love and respect. Why are you still so confused about this and unable to move past it? Do you think a story about love and respect starts with a series of big secrets? Your cited conversation happens after MC tells Steph about meeting Amber, and Steph encourages hooking up with her at the club later. Steph says "I also want to be absolutely certain I can be comfortable with you fucking around before we meet with Jason and Tori." What do you think she might be doing by (stupidly) pushing boundaries, both for her and MC, in the early story? The player triggers your posted response only by choosing the gung-ho on swinging, High-C "If I do this, it could lead to more for both of us" option. The Low-C and standard options get different responses from Steph that refer to her finding generic partners or calling Donny when MC is out fucking women, only later mentioning that he needs to consider it happening with Jason and not as forcefully ("It's exciting, but scary too. We have to be sure we can handle all of this"). The MC seems to like the discussion, even if you personally don't (that's important). This couple is deciding on SWINGING, ultimately there is no "OK I won't fuck Jason" at the end of the road if MC wants Tori. It's swing, or don't. The MC (and apparently players) need to hear that.
You are not paying attention. The dialogue I specified occurs on any route and without Amber.
Me, Grumpy Old Aussie and other supporters (so to speak) prove that there is no love, no swinger relationships, no swinger adventures in the game. By relationship, I mean the relationship within a couple. Author's words: "Another Man's Wife is a choice-driven adult visual novel focusing on the swinger lifestyle." "Join him in adventures reserved for swingers." Those who are dissatisfied with the game came for this promise. Scroll back three months to when version 1.06 was released and read the posts. Our opponents tried to prove to us that love and swing are in the game. They proved to us that swing is when on different planets and in different centuries, and without the couple’s second partner. We always said there is no swing. We proved that the author is lying. I define the relationships in the game as "mistress - slave", others as different variations of cuckold only, on all routes. We never said there was love, respect and swing in the game. Most of us, just out of curiosity, are waiting for Steph's grand secret, how absurd it will be. We are not waiting for the promised game, we are exchanging opinions. No one is forcing you to argue with us or prove anything.
 
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effectively MC is not lusting for anyone, MC has never even met or ever talked to Tori, how would he know?
MC is shown to be fantasizing about Tori all the time and in every route, his desire for Tori is the driving force behind the events of the story. What are you talking about?
 

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This couple is deciding on SWINGING, ultimately there is no "OK I won't fuck Jason" at the end of the road if MC wants Tori. It's swing, or don't. The MC (and apparently players) need to hear that.
If only it was that simple Adamska. I have really enjoyed your posts and I have agreed with you on many things. However, I also understand where the other guys are coming from.

Just to give an example from the brief quote above, there are two don't fuck friends on HC. One in the kitchen on Saturday night and the other before they head out Sunday. Why include them if it is going to happen anyway. It gives the illusion that there is a choice when there isn't. See this is where the fan base gets frustrated. The game constantly contradicts itself. Steph does every time she opens her mouth. If it is inevitable for Steph to fuck MCs friends then get the two references about not fucking friends out of the script! Its easy to get annoyed with people for drawing wrong conclusions when the game is contradicting itself.

I have spent so much time on this game in this forum and I have replayed it countless times. I want it to be good. I don't want to have wasted so much time on a disaster. The promise was a swinging game and we have gotten something else. There is one other couple in the story and they aren't looking to swing as couples. Tori clearly has a go solo agenda for this couple from her words and the unused renders. It highlights the whole approach to this game by the devs.

The whole approach is just bizarre.
- Here is the main star but we are going to make her drive you crazy.
- Here are all these side characters but your not allowed to like them and we will nerf them if you do. Why is it a problem for us to like the other characters! When I suggested my fav character was Gina, the dev was not happy.
- We want you to believe the main story even though we have thrown a bucket load of red herrings in the game to mask it. Then the devs gets frustrated when you draw "wrong" conclusions.
- Here is the MC and his wife, they love each other but we have made her a disrespectful hypocritical nympho, who keeps a bucket load of secrets from her husband who she is suppose to love.
- Don't even get me started with the confidence mechanic which is pushed in the intro but half way through the game changes to the DOM mechanic. And so on and forthwith.

I get its Early Access and the need for rewrites and adjustments, but we are way beyond the need for minor changes. I've just played through the entire game on HC looking at Steph/MC interaction again and then Tori on the HC path. It did make me re-evaluate a few things. Steph and the MC's relationship is a farce, Tori isn't as bad as I thought she was, and the devs are all over the place like a rowboat at sea that has lost its paddles.

Why am I still here apart from the time I put in? I want to see Steph's reveal explained, even though it isn't much of a secret. I called it early that she has mental health issues. I want a few answers still like that fucking phone call explained. Bugbear of my early existence on this thread (long story). I loved this game at the start and my hope for it hasn't been extinguished yet, nearly but not yet. I identify a lot with MC and my younger foolish self, and want him to have a good ending which the devs have pretty much ruled ruled out with their ridiculous "Unconditional love" notion.

I am sooo glad this is not real life. I really need to take up :coffee: again.
 
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This is true. In the conversation, Suzy mentions that Steph had a fight with Chuck. This is immediately followed by a scandal with Jeff at the party. After the scandal, Steph met MC. Steph quarreled with her usual surroundings. On a wave of emotions, she met a guy who is not a genius, but not part of Steph’s usual social circle. He is an unusual wonder for her. New sensations and Steph marries the guy.
That is pretty close to how I see that scene playing out.

For a while Steph was comfortable, there was no external sexual pressure, everything was soft and comfortable. MC does not exert dominant pressure. The novelty has worn off, and between my legs it itches. The steam pressure under the lid of the Steph boiler increases. Players understand that the author's statement that Steph did not cheat on MC is not substantiated in any way in the game. The author just farted in the water. Steph's actions belie this statement. Dramatically changed attitude towards MC as soon as he agreed that Steph could fuck anyone. You look at these two days and don’t believe in “four years of love and a happy marriage.”
I agree that Steph being unfaithful is not refuted in the game yet. However, the dev has said that was a red herring he deliberately planted and that Steph is definitely not cheating. I think it is inevitable, she is too erratic not to fuck around behind his back eventually, but that won't be this game.

I gave up on this game the moment dev came out with the update where you have to "earn" the content with Steph fucking some alpha chad dude on her business trip. Total sub cuck terminology.
Yeah I have reservations about it too. I am so sick of the submissive cuck trope in VNs as I have probably said too many times. I know the dev wants to bring that back in to the game on the LC path. At the moment I am hanging on to the HC path for dear life hoping things will improve.
 
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That is pretty close to how I see that scene playing out.


I agree that Steph being unfaithful is not refuted in the game yet. However, the dev has said that was a red herring he deliberately planted and that Steph is definitely not cheating. I think it is inevitable, she is too erratic not to fuck around behind his back eventually, but that won't be this game.


Yeah I have reservations about it too. I am so sick of the submissive cuck trope in VNs as I have probably said too many times. I know the dev wants to bring that back in to the game on the LC path. At the moment I am hanging on to the HC path for dear life hoping things will improve.
I mean the way the dev was talking about this fictional giga chad... if Mr. Chad were real he would lovingly grab his dick and guide it into his wife's vagina himself. I'm like 90% sure the dev is a hardcore cuck with a humiliation kink. Nothing wrong with that but at least be honest about what kind of game you want to make.
 

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I mean the way the dev was talking about this fictional giga chad... if Mr. Chad were real he would lovingly grab his dick and guide it into his wife's vagina himself. I'm like 90% sure the dev is a hardcore cuck with a humiliation kink. Nothing wrong with that but at least be honest about what kind of game you want to make.
I'm not sure if you were around for the infamous version 1.06a, it introduced the sub cuck as the LC path. It was replaced very quickly as a mistake. Since then the dev has said the LC path will return to being a cuck path. So its not really a secret, but its not been put on an updated or advertised on the games Steam store page either. The game is advertised as swinging of course, that is the HC path. I'm disappointed, but I've given up on the LC path anyway, I can't stand Steph and her humiliation bullshit on that path. Its not my thing.
 
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Adamska

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The dialogue I specified occurs on any route and without Amber.
The dialogue you specified in your "love and respect" post is said by Steph only in response to the high confidence "I'm OK with sharing my partner in the swinging game and won't get my panties in a bunch over minor perceived slights that I'll blow out of proportion" choice. I just replayed it to be sure, what she says on the other routes is in my post that you probably didn't read. There's probably a lot of other nuance in the writing of this game that you don't pick up on. The cuck and standard choices have Steph giving a softer response to the weaker MC, but the point stands that right now MC fucking Tori = Steph fucking Jason. You'll never get over this. It's clear you don't want to have a productive or interesting conversation about the story and are just here to bash a fictional character by repeating the same tired and inaccurate arguments, so I'll drop it.
 
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Joshy92

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I'm definitely going to buy any other games this dev brings out
It's not perfect (no game is imo) but I do really like the game

I want to see Steph get fucked as much as possible
It's a shame there won't be cummy kisses I would have loved that

I also would have liked some achievements
 
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Talktothehand

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So I installed the gallery mod for the first time and came across this unused image
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I would love to see that in game
It would be great, if they could have a scene where Jason, Donny and the other guy from business trip(probably upcoming updates) fill up steph while the MC watches for few moments and finally decides to join the party and finally steph gets gangbanged by her husband and friends

Edit: typo
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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So I installed the gallery mod for the first time and came across this unused image
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I would love to see that in game
You sure that's not a fan render? I remember thoroughly combing through the image folder last time I installed and didnt see anything like that.

Having said that - I'm not even upset; at least that looks like a more honest scene instead of this "lets sit on the balcony and watch but you cant do anything with me but you're gonna like this" bullshit....
 
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