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You have to understand, the version I play, Steph only bangs one guy.
It basically ends after the MC and steph go clubbing with the girl they meet at the bar.
Then they have a threesome and it ends.
Feels like I'm only getting to see about 20% of the game you all have.
Oh you're missing basically everything wrong (IMO) with the game.
 
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I often get accused of being anti-NTR on this thread. Its the fact the dev said from the start there was no NTR. Just stating a fact. If people are waiting for NTR its the wrong game. For the record, some NTR I like, some I don't, it depends on the scenario. You're just not going to find it here. Move on, carrying on will not make it so.
I fully agree. I only hate NTR when either MC is railroaded to accept it or to be expected to be to dumb to even realize it. If the MC would be given proper means to retaliate, which is honestly rafely the case, i'd be completely fine.
 

Joshy92

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I fully agree. I only hate NTR when either MC is railroaded to accept it or to be expected to be to dumb to even realize it. If the MC would be given proper means to retaliate, which is honestly rafely the case, i'd be completely fine.
If it's a netorase game like this usually the mc has a spine.
But you're right in netorare games they are spineless and also really dumb.
 

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I have played the new update and there is no cuckold scenes of Steph fucking other men while MC watches... or i'm wrong? The MC can fuck Tori this time and also Gina in a threesome with Steph.
Or i miss something?
 

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If it's a netorase game like this usually the mc has a spine.
I'm sorry Joshy, but this is just unequivocally untrue. Most of the NTS games on this website consist of beta MC's who are submissive and/or passive, and have no spine whatsoever. Which is why I have played so few NTS games on here. As someone who is very much dominant and isn't a fan of spineless and submissive MC's, I have found very few NTS games I actually enjoy. NTS fans who aren't submissive or don't enjoy submissive and/or spineless MC's, won't have a fun time finding NTS games.
 

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Who said anything about cheating or NTR or divorce or break up? Steph can fuck other dudes without any of those things. And the entire plot of the game up to now was exactly that. Sorry you didn't like it and kept running to the fucking dev karening the shit out it.

So now you got what you wanted and the game sucks. Hope you like it.
You're lying.
Everyone who was negative about Steph wanted a route where the MC kicks Steph out and ends up with Gina. Then the characters could go on in parallel (only business relationships) MC/Gina and Steph/Jason/Tori. Show demands to REMOVE other routes.
 
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Joshy92

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I'm sorry Joshy, but this is just unequivocally untrue. Most of the NTS games on this website consist of beta MC's who are submissive and/or passive, and have no spine whatsoever. Which is why I have played so few NTS games on here. As someone who is very much dominant and isn't a fan of spineless and submissive MC's, I have found very few NTS games I actually enjoy. NTS fans who aren't submissive or don't enjoy submissive and/or spineless MC's, won't have a fun time finding NTS games.
Yeah, now that you mention it, you're right.

I have a hard time finding romantic cuckolding games.
Most are either sharing or cheating. Or maybe swinging like this game.
 

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Well.. for example in one the scenes missing for you steph blows or fucks jason, despite she and MC agreed in the scene before thst nothin will happen that day, just like she picked up Donnie without ever asking for MCs consent. Which is personally for me one of the main reasons i despise her, because breaking those agreements in an open relationship is the equivalent of breaking the agreement to be exclusive in a traditional relationship, aka cheating.
Imo a game should have these options where you lead the MC or couple in one direction, open relationship for example, but then also have the optons for one or both to kinda break this agreement and to live with the consequences it'll show up as well as the options that both continue the route they took.
A game that can rise emotions is more entertaining than a straight forward game with no excitement at all.
 
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Yeah, now that you mention it, you're right.

I have a hard time finding romantic cuckolding games.
Most are either sharing or cheating. Or maybe swinging like this game.
Ever tried to find cuckquean games? There isnt even remotly a tag for this... and If you find something promising, then its usually just harem with occasional threeesomes..

And sadly, swinging is in 99% used as a wrong tag for netorase. Theres literally only ALWL and parts of EG with real swinging.
 

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Yeah, now that you mention it, you're right.

I have a hard time finding romantic cuckolding games.
Most are either sharing or cheating. Or maybe swinging like this game.
The sad truth tbh is that, most NTS games on here, are either NTR-light or NTR bait and switch games. Then most of the time when they're not, the MC still ends up being spineless and unrelatable as fuck. It's really a struggle being an NTS from my perspective at least. Also, I hate when games force the MC to cheat for plot reasons, I don't like when either party cheats.
 
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I'm sorry Joshy, but this is just unequivocally untrue. Most of the NTS games on this website consist of beta MC's who are submissive and/or passive, and have no spine whatsoever. Which is why I have played so few NTS games on here. As someone who is very much dominant and isn't a fan of spineless and submissive MC's, I have found very few NTS games I actually enjoy. NTS fans who aren't submissive or don't enjoy submissive and/or spineless MC's, won't have a fun time finding NTS games.
Its a downfall of VNs, a lot of them get stuck on these steroetypes. Its pathetic, its just people passing themselves off as devs pumping out their own kinks. One of the good things about this VN is you do get to make some confident decisions as MC and you can say to Steph, no this is not okay (not that it goes anywhere). Its a start. This MC isn't a complete loss, he is redeemable IMO.
 
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Joshy92

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The sad truth tbh is that, most NTS games on here, are either NTR-light or NTR bait and switch games. Then most of the time when they're not, the MC still ends up being spineless and unrelatable as fuck. It's really a struggle being an NTS from my perspective at least. Also, I hate when games force the MC to cheat for plot reasons, I don't like when either party cheats.
Honestly that's part of why I don't trust tags or a games description.
I have been fooled too many times now.

Also, I wanted to give you a red heart but I'm at my limit again lol
 
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Happy to discuss things here with a developer and a writer.

The thing is, Players never got a chance to choose anything for the many iterations of this game. Steph accuses MC of being a tool and disgusting to boot when he tells Steph about Tori - then Steph starts literally fkking everybody, no rhyme, no reason.

How was that any writing logic? Is that not literally lazy NTR female protagonist game where she is the town bycicle while her husband is so terrified of loosing her he is a veoyeur, a cuckold, a YES man who accepts all the lies and the disingenuous ”choices” that are presented in the game? MC has never been shown to have any spine or human attributes in front of all the males who have been railing Steph literally moments after they met her with no build up no nothing.

Jason in the 1.06 ends up fkking Steph LITERALLY THE FIRST TIME THEY MEET while Tory watches with MC on the stairs literally hapless and gutted - she hates Jason for it, she hates MC for it, MC is mortified and cannot even think or talk anything literate.

As a writing gig, this is straight up NTR female MC who fkks everyone.

The STEPH SECRET literally destroys this game writing and throws it in the dumpster : she has already been the town bycicle with the hubby coercing her - the way she puts it, it was the hubby pushing it on her, never her choice - why would she become the object of her trauma now? All on her accord, no less ???

MC never coerces or convinces Steph of anything in the bar talks. Steph literally shuts him down as him being on the verge of loosing her for bringing Tori in the ecuasion. Then she jumps on the only other guy at the bar - no rhyme, no reason - right after the total meltdown about MC even thinking about anything with anybody else.

You wanna talk writing comprehension in a porn game? Fine. Can you take the heat?
Because a bunch of sad little boys---who can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy and apparently have trouble getting girls IRL can't accept that ALL of the porn games don't allow them to have harems full of all the hot women without any effort at all---went and complained to the dev that it hurt their wittle feewings that Steph would have sex with another men despite A FUCK TON of choices being made by the MC at the beginning to manipulate her into fucking other guys so that he could bang his friend's hot wife.
As a writer, I am finding it more and more difficult, the more I think about it, to figure out how the devs are going to turn this plane around at this point. The last update and this update completely undid everything that was in the story. So now where do they have left to go? Have another update that retcons part of the retcon? Quite frankly, I don't know if they are actually talented enough as writers to pull it off.
 
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SlapE

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Ever tried to find cuckquean games? There isnt even remotly a tag for this... and If you find something promising, then its usually just harem with occasional threeesomes..

And sadly, swinging is in 99% used as a wrong tag for netorase. Theres literally only ALWL and parts of EG with real swinging.
Well to be fair, swinging is just when one or both parties in a relationship, have consensual extramarital sex, it doesn't have to be a couple swap, even a couple participating in a threesome is still swinging, technically speaking. Though I know it's a popular misconception that it's only an act involving two couples together.
 
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