Happy to discuss things here with a developer and a writer.
The thing is, Players never got a chance to choose anything for the many iterations of this game. Steph accuses MC of being a tool and disgusting to boot when he tells Steph about Tori - then Steph starts literally fkking everybody, no rhyme, no reason.
I agree that there were limited meaningful choices at the beginning. It's because the beginning was the setup to the story. The only choices were to determine whether the MC was going to be a sub or a dom in the open relationship where his wife fucks other guys. If you play the low confidence route, you would be slightly more submissive; high confidence route, slightly less submissive. Honestly, there was very little difference. If you chose not to take Donny home that night, the story still had to start the open relationship, because that is the plot, so she invited Donny over the next morning. You could opt out of the open relationship, but then the game ends,
because the open relationship was the plot. That said,
she literally only had sex with two other men in the whole game (one of whom was the plot device to start the open relationship & the other was the husband of the woman the MC started the whole open relationship in order to fuck), including in this update. That is hardly "town bycicle" behavior and is defniitely not "Steph starts literally fkking everybody, no rhyme, no reason."
How was that any writing logic? Is that not literally lazy NTR female protagonist game where she is the town bycicle while her husband is so terrified of loosing her he is a veoyeur, a cuckold, a YES man who accepts all the lies and the disingenuous ”choices” that are presented in the game? MC has never been shown to have any spine or human attributes in front of all the males who have been railing Steph literally moments after they met her with no build up no nothing.
Well, I can't answer the first question about writing logic because your characterization of the alleged logic has no basis in this game. So I have no idea what you mean by that. To the second question I can say no because (1) it's not NTR, it's an open relationship that is open because HE requested it and she doesn't leave him, which is a required element of netorare, (2) it's not a female protagonist, (3) as of this update he fucks more women than she does men, (4) he's only a cuckold or a voyeur if you choose not to join the threesome that HE suggested, (4) prior to the last update, no one is shown to be lying except him, who can optionally choose to hide the threesome with Tori and Jason while trying to manipulate Steph into fucking some stranger at a bar. The only part of that question that is correct, in a way, is that some of the "choice" are disingeuous, in that they either lead to the plot of the game or they lead to a game over.
More importantly, given the "disingenuous" choices (as you call them) and all of the other things you have said about this game, its plot, and its characters, the real question is "Why are you complaining?" The game seemed to make it clear what it was and you apparently do not like that. Why would you come to a site that has thousands and thousands of games and play one, for multiple updates apparently, that you didn't like? Do you not prefer happiness and enjoyment of things in your life?
Jason in the 1.06 ends up fkking Steph LITERALLY THE FIRST TIME THEY MEET while Tory watches with MC on the stairs literally hapless and gutted - she hates Jason for it, she hates MC for it, MC is mortified and cannot even think or talk anything literate.
That's an interesting take. Honestly, that scene changed like four times, including with this update, so you'll forgive me for not remembering EXACTLY which iteration of that scene you are talking about. But again, you are completely removing that scene from the context. Night 1, MC suggests an open relationship so that he can fuck Tori, and Steph agrees. Day 2, Steph makes it clear that an open relationship means they both hook up w/ other people, possibly including Jason, and MC agrees. MC then fucks Gina. Unavoidable. Assuming he didn't fuck her Night 1 "LITERALLY THE FIRST TIME THEY MEET," which is an option. Optionally he also fucks Night 3, MC and Steph go to Tori and Jason's so that they can make plans for MC to fuck Tori and --- only if certain choices were made --- Steph fucks Jason. Even in that first version, IIRC, there was an alternate scene where no one fucks anyone and MC and Steph just go home, end scene. And the devs were very clear that the scene was unfinished and other options would be added. The current scene, as of last update, requires VERY specific choices to make Steph fuck Jason. It's more likely at this point that Steph blows MC at Tori & Jason's house.
Also, who hates Jason and MC? Tori? Where did you get that from?
I'm going to ask a question honestly, and I mean no offense by it. Please forgive me if I am wrong. I assume that you are playing an English version of the game, since I don't think any official translations are available. Is English your native language? Because some of your misinterpretations of scenes seem like you might not really understand the words very well. There is some nuanced language in this game that maybe gets missed by non-native speakers.
As a writing gig, this is straight up NTR female MC who fkks everyone.
OK. I mean it's not NTR, it's not female MC, and she doesn't fuck everyone. But even if any of that were true so what? That's a genre. It's like saying "Halloween is a horror movie and Michael Myers kills everyone." Cool, that's true. If you like horror movies, watch it. If you don't like them, don't watch it. And Michael Myers
is a killer.
The STEPH SECRET literally destroys this game writing and throws it in the dumpster : she has already been the town bycicle with the hubby coercing her - the way she puts it, it was the hubby pushing it on her, never her choice - why would she become the object of her trauma now? All on her accord, no less ???
Here I think we almost agree. The Secret was an attempt by the devs to appease oversensitive players who spent a lot of time playing a game that they clearly didn't like but refused to stop playing and refused to shut the fuck up about it. I didn't think it was necessary at all. It was bad writing because it was disconnected. It wasn't originally intended. It was the best way that they could think of to try to pivot the game away from the original concept while tying up every loose end and explaining away the entire plot that had been written up to that point. Total retcon, unskillfully done.
And there is no way that this was the original intention. I don't mind some red herrings here and there. But 80% of the story can't be a red herring! That's not a twist a la M. Night Shyamalan. If that was intentional, then it was just a very bad idea, poorly executed. But I see no indication in any part of the game, on any path of the game, that would indicate this to be the case, prior to the last update.
Also, still not town bicycle. And I don't think you understand how trauma works.
This update
doubles down on that and takes away half of the open relationship, which was the plot of the game up to this point. The writing makes no sense at all now. Before, yes. Now, no.
MC never coerces or convinces Steph of anything in the bar talks. Steph literally shuts him down as him being on the verge of loosing her for bringing Tori in the ecuasion. Then she jumps on the only other guy at the bar - no rhyme, no reason - right after the total meltdown about MC even thinking about anything with anybody else.
I guess that depends on which route you play and which choices you make. And possibly also how you define
coercion. But the MC definitely wants to fuck Tori. He tries to make that happen.
That's the plot of the game. What you described is a somewhat distorted version of one option. That's not in any way an accurate representation of the path I think you're describing. There is also another path where he convinces her to have a threesome with Donny without ever mentioning the threesome with Tori and Jason until after the deed is done. That is coercion.
You wanna talk writing comprehension in a porn game? Fine. Can you take the heat?
Dude, I write two porn games ---- one a female protag, one NTR-ish ---- and hang out on F95. You're bringing the heat of a nice cool spring breeze. Especially since I don't write
this game and in fact have criticisms of the writing in this game, so cool.
