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Grumpy Old Aussie

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Likewise, smh this rework is not it, what's wrong with Steph just being a ho? :)
Nothing, there is also nothing wrong with her not being a ho too. If every game is just a ho game it makes it pretty pointless playing any VN if it all ends up the same old shit. That would get very boring very quickly don't you think?

Who knows, this game is part one of a three part story, she may end up a ho by the end, who knows, and there is the fun for me, the mystery.
 

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That would get very boring very quickly don't you think?
Not for me, I like hoes :cool:

I think the issues lies that there been so many reworks that Steph has been flopping around from different personalities. Along with a confusing format of confidence, voyeurs, stat game that people aren't able to go on the path they want. Here is where the mod is useful but a good game shouldn't have to rely on a mod to get what you want out of it. The dev needs to sort out his writing but I think his original vision was fine and people didn't let him cook thus making Steph just confusing as fuck for everyone.
 

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game doesnt open for me, any idea why? last update still working and other games ofc, but just doesnt open the game now :(
 

RULA_TE

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I want to ask a simple question. If Stephanie had psychological trauma, why didn't she see a therapist?
 

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Tori been that ”hoe, please! I bang more than that and still married”. She been working overtime for full six months piling on the goading to Steph, making her open up with all the pent up drama of her own - me and my hubby were separated and fking multiple partners but he cheated on me and I had to walk away. As it turns out game wise: that ended up being just her every day catfishing Steph for her estranged current partner who likes to manhandle his ”swinging” partners while cheating on his wife and his collegues, because when you got a game plot armor of being a lying piece of shit that Steph and MC are head over heels crazy for, to the point of going to his house on totally false pretenses and ending up handing him steph like a two bit whore, you do not need anything else game wise. The old bate and switch of ”entitled assholes” like them bullies who, after ”growing up”, they feel entitled to have a fresh start being their usual assholes even tho their victims do know them very well and are now also grownups and will not put up with their shit no more.
why didn't she see a therapist
Because she somehow values Tori more than MC or any therapist - a pretty believable scenario of somehing that people might do on the regular to evade the stigma of seeing a shrink: this is where they drama dump on anyone listening and believe they are cured of all that drama they dumped on somebody else.
 
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Hello, first time trying the game , so quick question is Donny avoidable ? I am trying to have the whife only with other girls and MC if is possible .
 

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A fellow accountant looking for support of being the victim and keeping it under wraps.
A lot of characters in these games usually never even think to seek help of a professional, least of all girls sleeping around - like Tori and Steph who do not seem to fear STDs or anything when approaching total strangers with the proposition of lending their bodies for spem dumping.
I don't get it. If someone has an STD, they should go to a venereologist whether they get the stigma or not. Who would go to an accountant for an STD?
Man eating, sleeping around, womanizing or sex addictions degenerating into total dissolution of characters are the whole point to many such games. These are never adressed as actual habitual ills thet the affected characters would advertise or look to others for a cure. Tori escalated Steph phobia for being a sex slave to total randos to the point she concocted the whole plot for this game - eventually becoming just that - a two bit whore delivered to lying pieces of shit - if the players want to turn her into something like that and giggle at the unravelling of Steph and MC.
 

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Hello, first time trying the game , so quick question is Donny avoidable ? I am trying to have the whife only with other girls and MC if is possible .
From what the dev has said there is a monogamous path coming and you will be able to avoid Donnie but not Gina. I don't know when that will be added maybe 9.01.
 
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A fellow accountant looking for support of being the victim and keeping it under wraps.
A lot of characters in these games usually never even think to seek help of a professional, least of all girls sleeping around - like Tori and Steph who do not seem to fear STDs or anything when approaching total strangers with the proposition of lending their bodies for spem dumping.

Man eating, sleeping around, womanizing or sex addictions degenerating into total dissolution of characters are the whole point to many such games. These are never adressed as actual habitual ills thet the affected characters would advertise or look to others for a cure. Tori escalated Steph phobia for being a sex slave to total randos to the point she concocted the whole plot for this game - eventually becoming just that - a two bit whore delivered to lying pieces of shit - if the players want to turn her into something like that and giggle at the unravelling of Steph and MC.
One of your more interesting posts. Not everyone wants to giggle and enjoy degrading and/or humiliating people. Its not my thing, I tend to stick to the more interesting stories. I like this game because it raises questions and is an interesting story. How would I handle the way Steph acted prior to the reveal? The water incident, the phone call, Donnie, etc. How would I deal with the reveal and react to her? I wouldn't have gone and fucked Tori the next night that is for sure. If my wife revealed a traumatic event like that (and she has done so in the past) I wouldn't go off and fuck another woman, permission or not. Not when there is shit to deal with. Then that is the point of stories, to raise questions and challenge us to how would we act and stir our emotions up. For some its just a porn thing. Whatever floats their boat.

Condoms are a bloody nightmare to deal with render wise. I have never been able to master them so for most devs its not worth the effort to do so. I can't see that changing any time soon.
 

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One of your more interesting posts. Not everyone wants to giggle and enjoy degrading and/or humiliating people. Its not my thing, I tend to stick to the more interesting stories. I like this game because it raises questions and is an interesting story. How would I handle the way Steph acted prior to the reveal? The water incident, the phone call, Donnie, etc. How would I deal with the reveal and react to her? I wouldn't have gone and fucked Tori the next night that is for sure. If my wife revealed a traumatic event like that (and she has done so in the past) I wouldn't go off and fuck another woman, permission or not. Not when there is shit to deal with. Then that is the point of stories, to raise questions and challenge us to how would we act and stir our emotions up. For some its just a porn thing. Whatever floats their boat.

Condoms are a bloody nightmare to deal with render wise. I have never been able to master them so for most devs its not worth the effort to do so. I can't see that changing any time soon.

Used condoms dumped by the bed look extremely effective when insinuating a woman can't get enough of sex with another man. I dope hope devs fully appreciate how important they are within a scene.
 
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They are translucent FFS. All devs have to do is show it before hand and then draw a damn circle around the member - like to suggest it is where the garnish ends up.
Legit scenes in porn have such bad or strange lighting that apart form the garnish, you could never see the actual plastic around the member.
Also, behind the scenes porn clips show the painstaking preparations before, during and after the shoots; the outbursts in the media also reveal that many girls hate guys or girls that apparently do gay or lezbian sex without condoms or pills or STD tests and show up like that for straight scenes. Yes, this is a serious hazard, some take it seriously,
doing their tests and taking their meds, some do not.

This is the whole reason AIDS is a total Global pehnomenon - sex is the universal feel good pill for everything a poor girl and some broke asshole might do to feel good about their lives and the total apparent unsavory lack of higiene in gay relationships - does anyone believe lesbians take their tests while shooting scenes with other lesbians? The lesbians who do are dissing those who do not.

IRL there are actors and producers who lack such standards,
while others are horrified, for good measure, at what STDs that kill can do to a human being.
Condoms are a bloody nightmare to deal with render wise. I have never been able to master them so for most devs its not worth the effort to do so. I can't see that changing any time soon.
I dope hope devs fully appreciate how important they are within a scene.
They could have a small line where they have taken their STD tests and are on the pill,
or have them talk about pooling their money to buy meds for after just like they would discuss beer and chips - who bought the lube, who got the paper towels, who got the toys, they could even do scenes where they wash eachothers toys before the sex - something you can totally see in on a porn set.
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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Used condoms dumped by the bed look extremely effective when insinuating a woman can't get enough of sex with another man. I dope hope devs fully appreciate how important they are within a scene.
They certainly can. If you like sharing your wife then they are very exciting and powerful, if you don't like sharing your wife they are equally devastating. I'm surprised they aren't used as a prop more often.
 
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They are translucent FFS. All devs have to do is show it before hand and then draw a damn circle around the member - like to suggest it is where the garnish ends up.
Legit scenes in porn have such bad or strange lighting that apart form the garnish, you could never see the actual plastic around the member.
Also, behind the scenes porn clips show the painstaking preparations before, during and after the shoots; the outbursts in the media also reveal that many girls hate guys or girls that apparently do gay or lezbian sex without condoms or pills or STD tests and show up like that for straight scenes. Yes, this is a serious hazard, some take it seriously,
doing their tests and taking their meds, some do not.

This is the whole reason AIDS is a total Global pehnomenon - sex is the universal feel good pill for everything a poor girl and some broke asshole might do to feel good about their lives and the total apparent unsavory lack of higiene in gay relationships - does anyone believe lesbians take their tests while shooting scenes with other lesbians? The lesbians who do are dissing those who do not.

IRL there are actors and producers who lack such standards,
while others are horrified, for good measure, at what STDs that kill can do to a human being.



They could have a small line where they have taken their STD tests and are on the pill,
or have them talk about pooling their money to buy meds for after just like they would discuss beer and chips - who bought the lube, who got the paper towels, who got the toys, they could even do scenes where they wash eachothers toys before the sex - something you can totally see in on a porn set.
"Garnish" :LOL:
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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They are translucent FFS. All devs have to do is show it before hand and then draw a damn circle around the member - like to suggest it is where the garnish ends up.
Legit scenes in porn have such bad or strange lighting that apart form the garnish, you could never see the actual plastic around the member.
Also, behind the scenes porn clips show the painstaking preparations before shoots, the ourbursts in the media also reveal that many girls hate guys that apparently do gay sex without condoms and show up like that for straight scenes. Yes, this is a serious hazard,
it is the whole reason AIDS is a total Global pehnomenon - sex is the pill for everything a poor girl and some asshole might do to feel good about their lives and the total apparent unsavory lack of higiene in gay relationships - does anyone believe lesbians take their tests while shooting scenes with other lesbians?
IRL there are actors and producers who lack such standards, while others are horrified, for good measure, at what STDs that kill can do to a human being.



They could have a small line where they have taken their STD tests and are on the pill,
or have them talk about pooling their money to buy meds for after just like they would discuss beer and chips - who bought the lube, who got the paper towels, who got the toys, they could even do scenes where they wash eachothers toys before the sex - something you can totally see in on a porn set.
I agree with your stance on condoms in porn. However, when it comes to condoms using 3D engines such as DAZ, I disagree. Its not as simple as just drawing a damn line, if it was there would be a lot more used in VNs.
 
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RULA_TE

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A fellow accountant looking for support of being the victim and keeping it under wraps.
A lot of characters in these games usually never even think to seek help of a professional, least of all girls sleeping around - like Tori and Steph who do not seem to fear STDs or anything when approaching total strangers with the proposition of lending their bodies for spem dumping.

Man eating, sleeping around, womanizing or sex addictions degenerating into total dissolution of characters are the whole point to many such games. These are never adressed as actual habitual ills thet the affected characters would advertise or look to others for a cure. Tori escalated Steph phobia for being a sex slave to total randos to the point she concocted the whole plot for this game - eventually becoming just that - a two bit whore delivered to lying pieces of shit - if the players want to turn her into something like that and giggle at the unravelling of Steph and MC.
I realize it's just a game, but there has to be some common logic to the game. Tori has exacerbated Steph's old trauma and the trauma has turned into a serious mental illness. Steph did not seek professional help and now there is no telling what she will do the next minute. She could commit suicide, she could kill her husband. She could kill Tori and Jason and that would be a good thing. Either way Stephanie is in an acute crisis and needs to be hospitalized immediately
 

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I realize it's just a game, but there has to be some common logic to the game. Tori has exacerbated Steph's old trauma and the trauma has turned into a serious mental illness. Steph did not seek professional help and now there is no telling what she will do the next minute. She could commit suicide, she could kill her husband. She could kill Tori and Jason and that would be a good thing. Either way Stephanie is in an acute crisis and needs to be hospitalized immediately
I never understood the premise of her past trauma being used as a catalyst for opening her sexual habits.
I had partners who'd want to replicate trauma they'd experienced, randoms forcing them into oral etc. but it was always done for catharsis, never the main impetus for sex.
 
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I never understood the premise of her past trauma being used as a catalyst for opening her sexual habits.
I had partners who'd want to replicate trauma they'd experienced, randoms forcing them into oral etc. but it was always done for catharsis, never the main impetus for sex.
I've had partners with issues both ways. One who was a multi-time r*pe survivor who was very into CNC and BDSM. Another who was a survivor of childhood SA who had occasional issues w/ being touched or touching in certain ways.

Trauma sucks and the way it festers over time can be unpredictable. I hate using it as a trope for porn. Probably one of the things I hate most about the direction the game is going.
 
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