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JetZ

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Didn't MC and Steph speak in the bar about Tori and Steph talking ???
ah true, the work at home while using lingerie conversation
ngl i always forgot that part tbh since if u decided to talk about the offer at home before the bar
that part never brought up,
so i really wanna see how the dev gonna pull this one out
since i believe no matter high/med/low confidence option we took along the way,
we all chose different options here and there for the dialogue as we sees fit in our mind imo
 

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THe High, med, low could varry a lot. I say that because of the ending where Husband or Steph is vying for control of the swinging
 

JetZ

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THe High, med, low could varry a lot. I say that because of the ending where Husband or Steph is vying for control of the swinging
yeah i noticed but i was thinking more about how the dialogue we chose along the way also has differences here and there

so i'm curious how the script gonna be on the next update
 

JetZ

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When do you think this will drop ??? Any new comment / renders ?
no new renders, well according to the last news it should drop alongside this weekly news on the weekend
sp fingers crossed they keep up with the schedule
 
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So anyway, Steph is a duplicitous cunt who's been dreaming about getting railed by dudes in front of her husband for a while, and she's completely dishonest about everything, and she's probably the one who told Tori to tell her husband to invite MC over for a threesome, and she was able to tell Tori to do this because she had discussed sex life shit with Tori at the party where Tori supposedly met MC.

Yeah, she's probably more evil than first let on, I really like it when there's good intrigue, and intrigue should not be too obvious, all of it works so that you can string together narratives in your head, very entertaining.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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So anyway, Steph is a duplicitous cunt who's been dreaming about getting railed by dudes in front of her husband for a while, and she's completely dishonest about everything, and she's probably the one who told Tori to tell her husband to invite MC over for a threesome, and she was able to tell Tori to do this because she had discussed sex life shit with Tori at the party where Tori supposedly met MC.

Yeah, she's probably more evil than first let on, I really like it when there's good intrigue, and intrigue should not be too obvious, all of it works so that you can string together narratives in your head, very entertaining.
I think that's a good summary of what she's thinking during the low confidence path, but only that path.
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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THe High, med, low could varry a lot. I say that because of the ending where Husband or Steph is vying for control of the swinging
That is pretty much a given, Steph wants control and MC will let her have it.

So anyway, Steph is a duplicitous cunt who's been dreaming about getting railed by dudes in front of her husband for a while, and she's completely dishonest about everything, and she's probably the one who told Tori to tell her husband to invite MC over for a threesome, and she was able to tell Tori to do this because she had discussed sex life shit with Tori at the party where Tori supposedly met MC.

Yeah, she's probably more evil than first let on, I really like it when there's good intrigue, and intrigue should not be too obvious, all of it works so that you can string together narratives in your head, very entertaining.
It sure looks likes Steph is duplicitous, we don't know for sure yet. Although the way she behaves with the MC... Whenever he is allowed by the game to call her out she gets pissed at him and tells him to pretty much get over it, but she certainly has no problem getting stuck in to him when he does wrong in her eyes. She is not one to take accountability for herself, but expects MC to be accountable (reminds me of my ex-wife ugh). He is partially at fault for letting her. It would be nice if MC could show his confidence occasionally and draw the line with her, that would be fun watching her throw a fit haha.

A story is well written when it keeps you guessing.

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Thanks mate! I actually went in to the game to make sure I hadn't missed the crumpled note haha. Got me good.
 

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It's fair to say that Steph's character is radically different if you play the high-confidence versus low-confidence path. The devs make considerable effort to make the player aware of this with a lengthy introduction conversation between her and the MC. I can appreciate and even celebrate this difference. As I am not a player that would enjoy the low-confidence playthrough, I know there are others following along in the thread that most certainly enjoy the cuckold route. I have never seen a dev pull it off quite as slick as these guys have! Duplicitous cunt on one end of the spectrum, loving and supportive on the other. Really nice job.
 

Grumpy Old Aussie

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It's fair to say that Steph's character is radically different if you play the high-confidence versus low-confidence path. The devs make considerable effort to make the player aware of this with a lengthy introduction conversation between her and the MC. I can appreciate and even celebrate this difference. As I am not a player that would enjoy the low-confidence playthrough, I know there are others following along in the thread that most certainly enjoy the cuckold route. I have never seen a dev pull it off quite as slick as these guys have! Duplicitous cunt on one end of the spectrum, loving and supportive on the other. Really nice job.
I thought she was a Duplicitous cunt on both. Then again I have played through it so many times I am probably confusing myself.
 

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I thought she was a Duplicitous cunt on both. Then again I have played through it so many times I am probably confusing myself.
I have to agree, I have played it so many times and gone back to get specific results that I am confused. She always seems to be quite bitchy and a bit of a cunt. She irritates me on all paths. Hence, the reason I am all about Gina. She is just so much more easygoing and totally into the MC (as well as the couple).

I didn't feel Steph was actively screwing over the MC on the high-confidence path, but I absolutely feel that way on the low-confidence path.
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

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I have to agree, I have played it so many times and gone back to get specific results that I am confused. She always seems to be quite bitchy and a bit of a cunt. She irritates me on all paths. Hence, the reason I am all about Gina. She is just so much more easygoing and totally into the MC (as well as the couple).

I didn't feel Steph was actively screwing over the MC on the high-confidence path, but I absolutely feel that way on the low-confidence path.
On the high confidence path you get to confront her about the phone call and other things where she comes across to me as duplicitous. Maybe its a perspective thing.

I just skipped through the low confidence path and took the uncomfortable with her being with other guys options and she recognises that, but just brushes it off. So much for in it together and both being comfortable. Anyway, when is the next update, this game has possessed me lol. I have visitors for the next week so I'll be lucky to open a VN, that might cure my obsession with the Steph mystery.
 

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On the high confidence path you get to confront her about the phone call and other things where she comes across to me as duplicitous. Maybe its a perspective thing.

I just skipped through the low confidence path and took the uncomfortable with her being with other guys options and she recognises that, but just brushes it off. So much for in it together and both being comfortable. Anyway, when is the next update, this game has possessed me lol. I have visitors for the next week so I'll be lucky to open a VN, that might cure my obsession with the Steph mystery.
Oh yeah, I think it is because you do confront her and she does respond favorably when you do on the high-confidence path. It makes me feel a little better about it. But she still is quite a bitch on that path.

I am hoping the update comes out around the 30th. I figure they will give themselves the weekend to make sure it is all good.
 
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Oh yeah, I think it is because you do confront her and she does respond favorably when you do on the high-confidence path. It makes me feel a little better about it. But she still is quite a bitch on that path.

I am hoping the update comes out around the 30th. I figure they will give themselves the weekend to make sure it is all good.
The dom cuck ending is brutal too. I'm not sure how the dom cuck path will fit in to the story. She says she didn't mean any of that stuff she had said over the weekend and to ignore it. Gina is now in to Steph and no longer in to MC, Steph wants heaps of cocks and pussy and his feelings don't matter and he 'might' get something out of it. I'd have said "bye bye bitch, I'll send you the divorce papers. Good luck with all those cocks and pussies you want." Looking forward to how the story plays out though. The devs are good at maintaining interest so I'm sure there will be a twist there some where. That ending has soured me on Gina as well now.
 

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The dom cuck ending is brutal too. I'm not sure how the dom cuck path will fit in to the story. She says she didn't mean any of that stuff she had said over the weekend and to ignore it. Gina is now in to Steph and no longer in to MC, Steph wants heaps of cocks and pussy and his feelings don't matter and he 'might' get something out of it. I'd have said "bye bye bitch, I'll send you the divorce papers. Good luck with all those cocks and pussies you want." Looking forward to how the story plays out though. The devs are good at maintaining interest so I'm sure there will be a twist there some where. That ending has soured me on Gina as well now.
Maybe I did not follow it through to see Gina get into the cuck ending. I did find the path where the MC wants to spend the night with her in the guest room and Steph puts the squash on that, which she fucking should! Obviously, I do not subscribe to the cuckold lifestyle or the sadomasochistic aspect of that kind of sex play. For those who do, and I fully support their choices, more power to them. But that is not me and I could never tolerate the things that go with it.

Yes, so Steph apologizes profusely and repeats how horrible she felt, how she never meant those things, and that she would never say those things again... How is that supposed to play out? If we are to understand that she is telling the MC the truth in her apology, it follows that she would never do those things again. In fact, it should mean that she would never invite Donny back. So, I am interested in seeing what the writers put in here. If Steph had said the next day that she was just playing a role or playing along, I don't know that I would have had such a negative reaction. But the fact that she became so unglued with herself and can't stand it really eats at me.

Here's my deal with how this would play out for real. We say and do some stupid things for sex. It can get crazy, especially when we are intoxicated. However, there has never been a time in my life that I was not fully in control of what I say and do, including during sex. I have been with women who broke small rules when we were at swinging parties. Things where we could discuss, forgive, and forget. Like kissing someone once. It would never be acceptable to completely lose your goddamn mind and to say or do things that you do not fully intend to back up. I certainly include that expectation in my talk when this topic comes up with a partner. You are 100% responsible for the things you do at all times. If you choose to drink, then you remain responsible for the consequences afterward. If you are going to play adult games, you better make sure you can be an actual adult.

So, IF my partner and I found ourselves in a situation like Steph here in this visual novel, where we took a random stranger from a bar home (highly unlikely) and she kicked me out of the room or she went all completely out of character "slut" for his cock, we would never swing again. There is a high probability that it would end the relationship. Because if you cannot trust the woman you are with to remain in control of herself, what can you trust her with? These two have been married for five years. If that were me, you can bet I would rip her a new asshole. But the damage that was done may not be repairable.

Side note: There is a discussion I am going to throw into the A Couple's Duet later that is similar to this. I am sure it will pull in some face palms from the adolescent morons.
 

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Maybe I did not follow it through to see Gina get into the cuck ending. I did find the path where the MC wants to spend the night with her in the guest room and Steph puts the squash on that, which she fucking should! Obviously, I do not subscribe to the cuckold lifestyle or the sadomasochistic aspect of that kind of sex play. For those who do, and I fully support their choices, more power to them. But that is not me and I could never tolerate the things that go with it.

Yes, so Steph apologizes profusely and repeats how horrible she felt, how she never meant those things, and that she would never say those things again... How is that supposed to play out? If we are to understand that she is telling the MC the truth in her apology, it follows that she would never do those things again. In fact, it should mean that she would never invite Donny back. So, I am interested in seeing what the writers put in here. If Steph had said the next day that she was just playing a role or playing along, I don't know that I would have had such a negative reaction. But the fact that she became so unglued with herself and can't stand it really eats at me.
I completely forgot about that one. I just wonder here with the game, this couple has gone from 0 to 100 overnight. Huge leaps for any relationship. Perhaps that may be the point. Perhaps the Devs (I wish I knew them better) may be trying to show the dangers of jumping in to these open lifestyles without thinking? Do it drunk and hungover and overnight, and it is a recipe for disaster and erratic behaviours. MC isn't exactly sure of the situation himself. We can have some choices we can make to help him on his way but his thought processes aren't real good for this type of lifestyle at times, for example, opening up a marriage to screw Tori is a bad bad place to start if it were RL.

Here's my deal with how this would play out for real. We say and do some stupid things for sex. It can get crazy, especially when we are intoxicated. However, there has never been a time in my life that I was not fully in control of what I say and do, including during sex. I have been with women who broke small rules when we were at swinging parties. Things where we could discuss, forgive, and forget. Like kissing someone once. It would never be acceptable to completely lose your goddamn mind and to say or do things that you do not fully intend to back up. I certainly include that expectation in my talk when this topic comes up with a partner. You are 100% responsible for the things you do at all times. If you choose to drink, then you remain responsible for the consequences afterward. If you are going to play adult games, you better make sure you can be an actual adult.

So, IF my partner and I found ourselves in a situation like Steph here in this visual novel, where we took a random stranger from a bar home (highly unlikely) and she kicked me out of the room or she went all completely out of character "slut" for his cock, we would never swing again. There is a high probability that it would end the relationship. Because if you cannot trust the woman you are with to remain in control of herself, what can you trust her with? These two have been married for five years. If that were me, you can bet I would rip her a new asshole. But the damage that was done may not be repairable.
Agree completely. Small slip ups will happen at the start because your dealing with powerful emotions. It takes time for a couple to find their feet and work out where they fit in the spectrum. Sorry preaching to the converted I know. My wife and I had a slip up one time thanks to us failing to set firm boundaries that caused a grey area. She thought it was okay, I didn't, we just hadn't communicated our boundaries to each other properly. Lesson learned, never been a problem since. It caused us a problem for a few days, but the result was you can't communicate enough for these lifestyles. A bit off topic, but yeah no way I would tolerate a lot of Steph's erratic behaviours in this game. My wife wouldn't tolerate mine either. Recipe for disaster if one of you start losing your shit.

Side note: There is a discussion I am going to throw into the A Couple's Duet later that is similar to this. I am sure it will pull in some face palms from the adolescent morons.
Well I am looking forward to it. Unfortunately, I will be offline for a few hours (got a date) but I will no doubt catch up after I am home.
 
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