VN Ren'Py Abandoned Another Man's Wife [v1.092] [Too Perilous]

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I'll be heading over to the "Compression Requests" thread - but this game is 5.2G for the initial release!

It has been mentioned on steam. The devs are aware of it and did do some compression with the files. It isn't as big as it was. The work is ongoing apparently. Where it will end up who knows. Still ask, someone might be able to compress it a lot more.

 

[D2taA]

I know you feel deceived and scammed. I'm holding out until the big reveal and see if these devs can come up with some miracle reveal to justify this chaos. I encourage you to hang in there for another couple of weeks with us and see how it goes. Lets give them the chance.

You'll be holding for a while, man's is right. This guy was scammed by the wife. Guys talking bout it got something to do with Chuck , no it don't. Chuck my pop up but that won't change she's scammed the husband to open marriage up. She might have done it so she can fuck Chuck, but as for the game so far is her just manipulating husband to think it was his ideal for open marriage.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

You'll be holding for a while, man's is right. This guy was scammed by the wife. Guys talking bout it got something to do with Chuck , no it don't. Chuck my pop up but that won't change she's scammed the husband to open marriage up. She might have done it so she can fuck Chuck, but as for the game so far is her just manipulating husband to think it was his ideal for open marriage.

I suspect you are right. Steph's so-called "Big Reveal" will verify it for sure.

 

[Big Rooster]

what did I miss?

 

[Dom Toretto]

Do u think we can get the android version

 

[Ilcoriglianese forte]

Can I ask why in your opinion Sthep needed all this drama to fuck Chuck, when she can do it easily being that she travels and is a manager, I find all this farce to fuck someone too much, in my opinion it's more of a mental game than him created Tori.

 

[asahibito]

I am beginning to wonder if working on the walkthrough mod is detriment to my enjoyment of the game. Recently reported 2 Amber bugs to the dev and now hard to resist to just rework the structure of the script to make it flow better and less prone to game logic errors.

On one hand a cleaner structure would make mod development easier and opens up ability to make a walkthrough with options for different routes.

On the other hand it would be basically an unpaid developer for the game and also break my principle of mod not overwriting game files.

All right, coming down from my soapbox and back to unpaid development

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

Can I ask why in your opinion Sthep needed all this drama to fuck Chuck, when she can do it easily being that she travels and is a manager, I find all this farce to fuck someone too much, in my opinion it's more of a mental game than him created Tori.

That is the $6million question isn't it. This 'secret' must a be a doozy. I had theories but the only one that still seems relevant is Steph has psychological issues.

My other working theory is based on what the devs said their plan with Steph was, to drive us crazy but not drive us away. In trying to do just that, they have lost control of their own creation. Three confidence levels means they are trying to write one story with three different levels of 'crazy' Steph. Its gotten messy and the story convoluted.

I am beginning to wonder if working on the walkthrough mod is detriment to my enjoyment of the game. Recently reported 2 Amber bugs to the dev and now hard to resist to just rework the structure of the script to make it flow better and less prone to game logic errors.

On one hand a cleaner structure would make mod development easier and opens up ability to make a walkthrough with options for different routes.

On the other hand it would be basically an unpaid developer for the game and also break my principle of mod not overwriting game files.

All right, coming down from my soapbox and back to unpaid development

I started looking at the script coding early on just because I loved the game at first and wanted to explore. I also had a little fun modding and I started finding all sorts of pieces of code here and there that weren't part of the game. It was a bit messy for sure.

 

[asahibito]

That is the $6million question isn't it. This 'secret' must a be a doozy. I had theories but the only one that still seems relevant is Steph has psychological issues.

My other working theory is based on what the devs said their plan with Steph was, to drive us crazy but not drive us away. In trying to do just that, they have lost control of their own creation. Three confidence levels means they are trying to write one story with three different levels of 'crazy' Steph. Its gotten messy and the story convoluted.


I started looking at the script coding early on just because I loved the game at first and wanted to explore. I also had a little fun modding and I started finding all sorts of pieces of code here and there that weren't part of the game. It was a bit messy for sure.

I agree with you both the story and code is messy.

I came into this game late v1.05 and really liked the simple mechanic of 3 confidence levels and resulting 3 routes.

If they stuck to their guns and structured the code from the start to support that it would have made for a consistent game and characterization for each route.

Then something happened leading up to 1.06. Code got even messier that took some time to clean up. Micro mechanics were introduced that now split each confidence level into a few more routes with one or 2 choices suddenly making Steph’s personality wildly different.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I agree with you both the story and code is messy.

I came into this game late v1.05 and really liked the simple mechanic of 3 confidence levels and resulting 3 routes.

If they stuck to their guns and structured the code from the start to support that it would have made for a consistent game and characterization for each route.

Then something happened leading up to 1.06. Code got even messier that took some time to clean up. Micro mechanics were introduced that now split each confidence level into a few more routes with one or 2 choices suddenly making Steph’s personality wildly different.

1.06 is the bane of my existence as far as this game goes and the devs too probably . I don't get the reason for the micro mechanics. The devs were proud of their confidence mechanic and said it work well, so why mess with it if that was the case?

I agree with the confidence mechanic in theory, I don't agree with how they applied it in some cases, I think a few times they got it wrong adding to the erratic Steph behaviour. The way they applied it at times led to significant missed plot opportunities in the story, but that is a different conversation.

After 1.06 and the backlash that caused the Tori/Jason rewrite, they felt the need to go back and start altering parts of the story and adding bits and pieces like the "chuck" scene. It has been messy for sure.

 

[Dom Toretto]

It's a damn shame someone can't come up with a android link for this new update so the rest of the fans can enjoy the game and take part in the discussion

 

[Ilcoriglianese forte]

I believe that the game was shortened because too many criticisms on Steam, the creators perhaps had a good idea of the game, but in practice, they made mistakes, which today they pay for with a downsized game.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

It's a damn shame someone can't come up with a android link for this new update so the rest of the fans can enjoy the game and take part in the discussion

Sorry, if I could do that for you I would. I have no experience with Android conversions.

 

[estrada777]

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[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

1.06 is the bane of my existence as far as this game goes and the devs too probably . I don't get the reason for the micro mechanics. The devs were proud of their confidence mechanic and said it work well, so why mess with it if that was the case?

I agree with the confidence mechanic in theory, I don't agree with how they applied it in some cases, I think a few times they got it wrong adding to the erratic Steph behaviour. The way they applied it at times led to significant missed plot opportunities in the story, but that is a different conversation.

After 1.06 and the backlash that caused the Tori/Jason rewrite, they felt the need to go back and start altering parts of the story and adding bits and pieces like the "chuck" scene. It has been messy for sure.

So what choices do we have to make to see the Chuck path?

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I believe that the game was shortened because too many criticisms on Steam, the creators perhaps had a good idea of the game, but in practice, they made mistakes, which today they pay for with a downsized game.

Yeah they did cop some criticism. The devs changed the format of their animations and were able to reduce the overall size of the game apparently. I haven't kept up with that side of things. I use a PC so size is not something I have to worry about fortunately.

So what choices do we have to make to see the Chuck path?

The scene about Chuck is during the dinner with Steph's sister. If you go after Steph in to the bedroom you will get the dialogue where she mentions about Chuck.

 

[Nurikabe]

I Think they had originally planned a much shorter game. They started expanding almost right away. Changes to the story, moving major arcs around, and adding renders and animations. They then decided they needed to add the "escape routes" for people to ignore entire chunk of content or stop a certain path in the middle. No doubt, this had to wreak havoc on the code structure.

When it comes to Steph's secret, while we don't know what it is, we know that Steph is supposed to remain "faithful" to the MC. Sure, a woman who has the desire to screw an ex could certainly do that easily. Even easier when she travels for business. But I don't think that is the point. She wants to remain faithful. What way can a woman remain "faithful" and still have sex with whoever she wants? Open relationships!

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I Think they had originally planned a much shorter game. They started expanding almost right away. Changes to the story, moving major arcs around, and adding renders and animations. They then decided they needed to add the "escape routes" for people to ignore entire chunk of content or stop a certain path in the middle. No doubt, this had to wreak havoc on the code structure.

When it comes to Steph's secret, while we don't know what it is, we know that Steph is supposed to remain "faithful" to the MC. Sure, a woman who has the desire to screw an ex could certainly do that easily. Even easier when she travels for business. But I don't think that is the point. She wants to remain faithful. What way can a woman remain "faithful" and still have sex with whoever she wants? Open relationships!

Does Steph want to remain faithful? For example, she did choose to fuck Donnie rather than going to find her husband. MC has to tell her not to fuck Jason, otherwise she does on dom below 4. She says a lot of things that don't line up with her actions. So I'm dubious of her idea of faithfulness.

There are open relationships and there are the way VNs do open relationships, two different things. I can see this going down the TACOS route and Steph becoming another Anne. I'd be disappointed if it does. Devs promised a good story, that is why I'm still here. I know they can write good pieces, but can they deliver a good story or will it turn into another boring slutfest?

Maybe I should change my name to Cynical Grumpy Old Aussie Any suggestions?

 

[Nurikabe]

Does Steph want to remain faithful? For example, she did choose to fuck Donnie rather than going to find her husband. MC has to tell her not to fuck Jason, otherwise she does on dom below 4. She says a lot of things that don't line up with her actions. So I'm dubious of her idea of faithfulness.

There are open relationships and there are the way VNs do open relationships, two different things. I can see this going down the TACOS route and Steph becoming another Anne. I'd be disappointed if it does. Devs promised a good story, that is why I'm still here. I know they can write good pieces, but can they deliver a good story or will it turn into another boring slutfest?

Maybe I should change my name to Cynical Grumpy Old Aussie Any suggestions?

What I would consider cheating, the devs consider "faithful." So I used the quotes to indicate that I did not agree with that term. I don't think there is intent to cheat. It is more that she does things the MC gave permission for, without him being present.

So, I think your explanation is accurate. There are the way things are and the way (edit) Shitty VNs do things.

 

[asahibito]

Maybe I should change my name to Cynical Grumpy Old Aussie Any suggestions?

Grumpy Old Cynical Aussie - GOCA OR Cynical Old Grumpy Aussie - COGA
At least give us an acronym we can pronounce, CGOA is too hard.