Porn_Jesus

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At this point I expect three possible outcomes:
  1. game gets cancelled (very unlikely but you never know)
  2. game comes out at some point with all the content promised but is heavily bugged (very likely)
  3. content had to be sacrificed and the so called "replay value" is very shallow (also very likely)
I'd say whatever happens the product will not meet the hype. :HideThePain:
 
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Edvin

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I'd say whatever happens the product will not meet the hype. :HideThePain:
Actually, I'd say that it will exactly meet the hype.
How much enthusiasm can people have in him after 4 years of delaying?

Instead of discussions like:
"I can't wait for it to come out! It's going to be great!"
We have discussions like:
"I bet it won't come out at all... And even if it does, it won't be good."

This proves that the Kal has almost lost the fans' trust.
You cannot sustain a successful business if people do not trust that you can create a quality product and deliver it on time.

For example, my trust in him is really hanging on the last straw. If he really manages to release a game tomorrow, I'm not saying that my confidence will be back to 100%, but at least I won't think that he's totally incompetent in terms of organization and should leave the position of lead developer to someone else.
 
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Actually he literally said the last thing he needs to do to finish the game is to put an anti-piracy protection, which he said like 3-4 days ago. Same thing was a year before, oh how ironic of him
 
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Fruzsina

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  1. game gets cancelled (very unlikely but you never know)
  2. game comes out at some point with all the content promised but is heavily bugged (very likely)
  3. content had to be sacrificed and the so called "replay value" is very shallow (also very likely)
Just to add a few more variations, with how possible these can be.
4. The game is already finished, yet Kal dosen't push it out, because still earn over 11000 USD a month. Also Kal working secretly on a new project conveniently called "Roundscape 2" (Almost certain)
5. The Patreon page is a decoy to laundry money. (Unlikely)
6. The game is never meant to finish! Prepare Roundscape 2 will be made earlier than Arenus. (Probably)
 

Abraxasin

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Just to add a few more variations, with how possible these can be.
4. The game is already finished, yet Kal dosen't push it out, because still earn over 11000 USD a month. Also Kal working secretly on a new project conveniently called "Roundscape 2" (Almost certain)
5. The Patreon page is a decoy to laundry money. (Unlikely)
6. The game is never meant to finish! Prepare Roundscape 2 will be made earlier than Arenus. (Probably)
Or the game just never comes out and Kal keeps earning with his patreon.
 

iiw2012

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Just to add a few more variations, with how possible these can be.
4. The game is already finished, yet Kal dosen't push it out, because still earn over 11000 USD a month. Also Kal working secretly on a new project conveniently called "Roundscape 2" (Almost certain)
5. The Patreon page is a decoy to laundry money. (Unlikely)
6. The game is never meant to finish! Prepare Roundscape 2 will be made earlier than Arenus. (Probably)
7. Over the next year, he'll be trying to squeeze Denuvo into the game (50/50).
 
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Joeburqa

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all the whiners crying about milking patreons are fucking hilarious. they pretend as if this game has been the entire focus and people have been paying them for 5 years even though nothing has been made. ignore the smaller completed game that started it off, ignore that this game has not been the top priority for a while, and ignore that its because the top priority has been roundscape, a massive rpg that had many many fans and the developers shifted their focus to it once the popularity of that project skyrocketed, ignore that people are supporting their patreon for reasons other than this game, all so we can justify our whining and proclaim that the developer is milking the patreons WAH WAH WAH! the developer has been working for the last 5 years. not necessarily on this game, but on games in general, and people pledge money because of that. there is absolutely no milking here.

anyone new here, developers are good, dont listen to the crying, this game got delayed not to screw people over, but because their other project became very popular and expanded greatly in scope.

i agree with the guy who said the coping and seething will be hilarious. heres hoping for another delay so the rest of you nerds can wet your panties again.
 

Edvin

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I also believe in the eventual heat-death of the universe.
Some people hold the opinion that there will not be enough time for the heat-death of the universe, since the Big Crunch will happen much sooner :unsure:
 

Atl92

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For an update Kal said they are working hard for release tomorrow, but if it isnt released, then it will be 1-2 days after max. So seems QA phase MAY be taking a little longer than expected. (Is what it is tbh, an extra day or 2 is whatever if true, after previous delays)

Also I dont think Kal and co. are really milking patreon tbh (at least on purpose, i do think they shoulda paused payments). I think they just massively underestimated how long it would take to develop Arenus, and is actually something they have stated themselves. Hell this stuff is something that happens with AAA dev teams so i'm not gonna fault a small h-dev team for doing it too.

Also they did confirm they are never doing a full release game again after this, and are going back to their Roundscape days where they updated every few months or so.

On another note, how do people even get milked on patreon? I supported Arvus games on patreon for $60 total cause I thought thats what their games in total was worth then I cancelled my support, why do other people not do this too? Its not hard. Honestly if you let yourself get milked for that long, or dont do research on the dev beforehand thats on you to some extent.
 
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