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Agreed. I hope that hatefuck was the last time Aidan stuck his dick in her.
considering also the fact that the author is trying to tell a story here that is very much separate from the romance stuff I cant help but wonder what the plan is. episode 5 was mostly story with artemis and while it is super fun there was very little in the romance side of things except for 3 rather short interactions
however , with the current progress it makes me even wonder how that will all fit in ? like it took a year for this update and there wasnt much when it came to a large chunk of the cast(and even it being mostly about artemis I really cant see her as a romance with the current development at all) , so if there are really plans to make this game a whopping 9 LIs at the bare minimum this is going to take a LONG while and seems borderline unrealistic.
based on the interactions between characters and the "vibe" of this vn I also cant see half of them being shoved into harem , I dont think harem can fit this narrative without some major asspull or being a serial cheater
however , with the current progress it makes me even wonder how that will all fit in ? like it took a year for this update and there wasnt much when it came to a large chunk of the cast(and even it being mostly about artemis I really cant see her as a romance with the current development at all) , so if there are really plans to make this game a whopping 9 LIs at the bare minimum this is going to take a LONG while and seems borderline unrealistic.
based on the interactions between characters and the "vibe" of this vn I also cant see half of them being shoved into harem , I dont think harem can fit this narrative without some major asspull or being a serial cheater
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Waiting 1 fcking YEAR for 1 lewd scene, this game is just one step away from becoming summers gone. 
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The first release had five porn scenes, even starts with an explicit scene. If your game starts that way The message is clear from the developer.
If it later decides to change course it is its right, but complaints from some players/patreons would be legitimate.
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You are arguing an opinion based on semantics. There is no way to truly prove either point, for or against. I say it's an adult AVN with porn in it. There is more quality story than H-scenes and the sex, IMHO, flows naturally out of the story. However, the sex is top grade porn! Even soft core porn is still porn. A rose by any other name smells as sweet but is still a fucking rose. It's an adult AVN with porn in it. You'll be hard pressed to convince me otherwise, sweetpea.
There are no clear guidelines for AVN's so I default to the rating systems for other media like games and film. Just showing an open vagina and an erect penis is sufficient to shut down a AAA game studios release and take a film straight from the standard R or even NC17 ratings right over to XXX porn. There is porn in this AVN.
Love you Ava, dear friend. Just unable to agree this time, mate.
Adventure ever on, Phat
Good update but after such a long wait just one lewd scene
I expected at least a hj from naomi or v
I expected at least a hj from naomi or v
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Would you call the Witcher games, porn games?You are arguing an opinion based on semantics. There is no way to truly prove either point, for or against. I say it's an adult AVN with porn in it. There is more quality story than H-scenes and the sex, IMHO, flows naturally out of the story. However, the sex is top grade porn! Even soft core porn is still porn. A rose by any other name smells as sweet but is still a fucking rose. It's an adult AVN with porn in it. You'll be hard pressed to convince me otherwise, sweetpea.
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There are no clear guidelines for AVN's so I default to the rating systems for other media like games and film. Just showing an open vagina and an erect penis is sufficient to shut down a AAA game studios release and take a film straight from the standard R or even NC17 ratings right over to XXX porn. There is porn in this AVN.
Love you Ava, dear friend. Just unable to agree this time, mate.
Adventure ever on, Phat
No, but they all have sex in them.
To call this a porn game is a gross oversimplification and an injustice to the story the dev is creating. It's an adult VN that contains sex scenes however there is far more story than there is porn.
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Sorry in advance for butting in, found this subject interesting. I think most people would see it as 'porn' because of the visually explicit nature of the renders: While in The Witcher is obvious they're having sex (same with scenes like in Dragon Age games, Mass Effect, etc), they don't explicitly show you the man's genitals, or they don't graphically show you the guys burying their dick inside the girls.
Personally, for me this is a little more complex. I see games like Artemis (You know, games that bother with an actual coherent kinda realistic story, good dialogue and real characters with good character development) as Visual Novels that happen to have explicit sex in them, but I wouldn't catalogue them as 'porn' cause their core focus isn't purely sex. There are maaaaaaany porn games in this site, but I wouldn't call Artemis a porn game (Same with Leap of Faith, for example, while I would put WVM in the category of porn game).
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Just a little squabble over wording here. I don't think MOST people would consider it porn. I think MOST people on THIS site would consider it porn. But it is important to look at your audience. How many people on this site have a well-developed sense of self, a mature brain, and the ability to think critically about mature topics? Just a thought.
Edit: A small addition. SOME people consider all sex pornographic. Think about that. And who they might be.
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Using my same film comparison, if the Witcher games were films, they would EASILY obtain a an "R" rating, possibly a PG13, not a porn XXX. Such is NOT the case with Artemis and the vast majority of other games I play here from F95zone. The H-scenes and animations fully show erect penis, open vagina and penetration. Witcher does NOT. The balance of story to porn has zero bearing on the fact that the level of the sex and what is shown is fucking PORN! It's top quality, rather classy porn and I love it but it is porn none the less. Take off the rose colored glasses, dear friend. This game contains PORN! Do I need to demonstrate further? I will need to go on a screenshot raid through the game but I will if it helps you understand. The opening sex scene with that super cunt, Cassie... PORN! The scenes leading up to the BJ contest at the INK house, PORN! The entirety of the BJ contest, PORN! MC fingering Artemis, PORN! The list goes on and on and on! There is genuine PORN in this title! There are no two ways about it. Every H-scene and animation in this game would flat out fail to obtain an MPAA approval for both R and NC17 ratings. That equals PORN!
Have a great day, dear friend. I still cannot agree with you on this topic, still love you. Adventure ever on, Phat
It is obvious that there will never be an agreement. This argument happens on every thread. In the strictest sense of the word, you would be correct. Have you spent much time looking at artistic nudes? Those have many of the features that would be considered porn in some places (like the U.S.). But they are considered art instead. Why? What makes them different?Using my same film comparison, if the Witcher games were films, they would EASILY obtain a an "R" rating, possibly a PG13, not a porn XXX. Such is NOT the case with Artemis and the vast majority of other games I play here from F95zone. The H-scenes and animations fully show erect penis, open vagina and penetration. Witcher does NOT. The balance of story to porn has zero bearing on the fact that the level of the sex and what is shown is fucking PORN! It's top quality, rather classy porn and I love it but it is porn none the less. Take off the rose colored glasses, dear friend. This game contains PORN! Do I need to demonstrate further? I will need to go on a screenshot raid through the game but I will if it helps you understand. The opening sex scene with that super cunt, Cassie... PORN! The scenes leading up to the BJ contest at the INK house, PORN! The entirety of the BJ contest, PORN! MC fingering Artemis, PORN! The list goes on and on and on! There is genuine PORN in this title! There are no two ways about it. Every H-scene and animation in this game would flat out fail to obtain an MPAA approval for both R and NC17 ratings. That equals PORN!
Have a great day, dear friend. I still cannot agree with you on this topic, still love you. Adventure ever on, Phat
Now, I am not saying that these artistic nudes show penetration. At least, none that I have seen. Pornography is a strange phenomenon. What a community considers pornographic is largely up to the members of that community. And in that sense, Artmemis is not pornography. Does it contain all of the scenes you described? Yes. But this community has a very different membership than the average local town in the U.S. What we are really saying here is comparatively, this is not porn. But for the sake of argument, let's call it elevated porn. Yes, there are scenes that show the erect penis and penetration. But the focus is not on those scenes. They are secondary to the story. They occur in the process of illustrating adult and mature themes. Imagine if we lived in communities that accepted that people have sex and we could talk about it without calling it sex pornographic.
More importantly, why do people feel the need to have this argument? Is it important that it is called porn? What is gained from labeling it? Nobody is trying to sell it in the local comic shop. It is an adult game. Why can't we have adult situations in adult games without someone trying to make it pornographic? This argument usually pops up when people get upset that there are no sex scenes in an adult game. As if the game has to show penetration scenes to be considered acceptable. I don't see why it matters.
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Just finished the roller coaster of feels and anxiety see everyone next year/update...
As much as I do love how the story is being handled, my man here is speaking the truth.Waiting 1 fcking YEAR for 1 lewd scene, this game is just one step away from becoming summers gone.