- Jul 12, 2020
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My bet is it ends with Avalon finally having sex. That ends her arc. Then the bonus act is just to add some sex content which is very scarce.
I'd disagree about Ramis. He got his start as a performer at THE Second City (The Real One, in Chicago) SCTV was a product of Toronto's Second City, where he became SCTV's Head Writer and a performer there in 1976. Alas, poor Martin Short gets no respect.
- Sep 28, 2018
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The LI's of MC are also the LI's of Avalon, she is just as much the MC as MC is if not more so. There are non-poly routes, but the cannon routes are the poly routes.
This is also a story based game, not a sex based game.
Will wait until 7.2 gets here - according to Patreon post on Sep 17th:
UPDATE - Fixed the Mono path showing Poly Content
Wondered what was going on with the Dallas/Octavia "polyamorous" paths when I tried it.
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UPDATE - Fixed the Mono path showing Poly Content
Wondered what was going on with the Dallas/Octavia "polyamorous" paths when I tried it.
Wait Dallas and Penny have sex? Fucking wow. I thought at least one character would not cuck him.
Oh thank God. I'm currently playing Dallas poly route. She's the only one you even have sex with.
- Nov 20, 2018
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I think Penny's all right, although I never saw her as any type of romantic interest . . . for any of the characters. The reveal that she and Octavia had previously been an item seemed very out of left field, and it got more awkward with Dallas and Avalon each acting interested in her.
Penny's not mysterious to me, and I don't think she's been written very well, TBH. That's surprising, given the richness of many of the other characters. She's a Mary Sue, which makes her less enjoyable to me. People have flaws. They don't have to have some dark, painful past to be interesting. Someone that's not interesting is the person that can do everything. Ever met someone like that IRL? They are usually annoying as hell. I don't find Penny annoying, but I also don't find her interesting. She's just the mechanism to take care of all the conflicts in the story. If I feel that way about her from Avalon, I can't imagine how I'd enjoy Penny: A Modern-day Mary Sue.
Penny's not mysterious to me, and I don't think she's been written very well, TBH. That's surprising, given the richness of many of the other characters. She's a Mary Sue, which makes her less enjoyable to me. People have flaws. They don't have to have some dark, painful past to be interesting. Someone that's not interesting is the person that can do everything. Ever met someone like that IRL? They are usually annoying as hell. I don't find Penny annoying, but I also don't find her interesting. She's just the mechanism to take care of all the conflicts in the story. If I feel that way about her from Avalon, I can't imagine how I'd enjoy Penny: A Modern-day Mary Sue.
I found it funny in the little epilogue thing it says the devs learned from their mistakes. Seems more like they are doubling down on them.
- Nov 20, 2018
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IDK, I suppose it depends on what mistakes they mean. Maybe their patrons are of a totally different mind than I am, and they absolutely love Penny. (Weird, but who am I to judge?) If the mistakes they reference are failing to listen to patrons, it might explain why focusing hardcore on Penny has become a thing. I personally don't think I'll ever like Penny, mostly because I hate when a writer takes a sledge (Penny) to do the job of a wrench/spanner (well-developed plot in the story).
I suppose his patrons could like it, but that's probably why there are so few. I've said before there are numerous problems with this game. I mean Penny isn't the only Mary Sue. So are Octavia and Leah. To a lesser extent Dallas and Avalon. Or the constant cockblocking by using Avalon's trauma or random interruptions. I mean there are only 2 sex scenes period and that's with Dallas/Octavia.
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I'm less concerned with the number of sex scenes — not taking anything away from your wanting more — than I am with the basic storytelling of the game. They are enjoyable for me, but they are secondary. I'm generally here for stories and characters.
I actually don't see how any of these other girls are Mary Sues. Octavia is a knowledge sponge, but it doesn't feel like she's great at everything to me. Being smart and physically capable doesn't amount to being a Mary Sue. I have yet to see her know exactly what a criminal is going to do or get away with illegal stuff or automatically know everything about someone before getting to know them. A Mary Sue wouldn't fall from a ladder in a library, even if startled. (A Mary Sue wouldn't even get startled in the first place.)
I haven't played this latest update yet (I'm working my way to it), but prior to this update, at least, I don't see how Leah is a Mary Sue, either. Maybe something happens in this update? Barring that, though, she's not a Mary Sue from my perspective.
It's the same with Dallas and Avalon: how exactly are they Mary Sues? They don't do everything right . . . at all. Avalon ran away from home instead of confronting her problems. She didn't recognize the need for therapy, even though she clearly needed it. She was tricked by Byron just as easily as he was tricked by her. Dallas is the same way. I don't see how Mary Sue applies to either of them at all.
Octavia literally touches people with her hands and can read their minds. Everyone instantly falls in love with her.
Dallas can run an entire business on her own as a teen with no parents.
Avalon everyone falls in love with also. She's the impetus for every relationship in the game. She did confront her mom but Sharol thought she was attention seeking. She has no desire for revenge.
Leah is a damn genius creating an artificial heart.
This is why I said to a lesser extent Avalon and Dallas. Moreso Octavia and Leah. A character doesn't have to be perfect to be a Mary Sue.
Your MC is a pathetic dolt only there for his looks who spends all his time apologizing. He is portrayed as lazy and doesn't believe in work. He only survives by money from his father that he took to cover up his supposed best friend's murder. Money he of course had no issue keeping and living off of.
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The definition of a Mary Sue is a character who does everything well, around whom the whole world warps to their will, in effect. None of this is true for any of the characters other than Penny. Mary Sues aren't just good at something; they're not just amazing at something. They aren't perfect, but they are amazing at everything, which doesn't apply to anyone but Penny.