Ren'Py Completed Babysitter [Final v0.2.2b] [T4bbo]

[letitbleed]

Her friend pushing her to be slutty doesn't mean she will.

And he does not willingly bring her, he does it not to disappoint her... They are shopping, he needs to go to that office asap, so he brings her. Then while he is busy signing the contract, he gets distracted and Mr Silver offers the job.

umm she did and the MC even helped push it thats why she had the suite that wont close over her tits!

as for bringing her the MC would be well aware that bringing his niece within a hundred yards of mr silver would be problematic since silver has already shown himself the type to use his position to force concessions. anyone who's negotiated a contract wouldn't set themselves up like that.

also the MC could just as simply have suggested the niece stay at the mall hand her some extra money to shop some more and come back to pick her up or even suggested she go to a spa movie or any other time sink.

 

[Jcj]

My point exactly.

The premise is false, if the Dev thinks Mister Silver/Orlov has any sway over his future.
Companies would fight over this software,... hell various 3 letter agencies would also.
Let alone niece's future.

Okay, lets go step by step.

First,

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umm she did and the MC even helped push it thats why she had the suite that wont close over her tits!

as for bringing her the MC would be well aware that bringing his niece within a hundred yards of mr silver would be problematic since silver has already shown himself the type to use his position to force concessions. anyone who's negotiated a contract wouldn't set themselves up like that.

Second,

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And finally...

Would you sell off your niece or anyone from the family into sex slavery, just so your business succeeds?
Fuck me. Russia must be a crazy place.

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And I don't know about T4bbo, but I'm not Russian and I see the variables (the whole set of them, as the MC is who you decide it to be) perfectly logical.

 

[MantisK]

umm she did and the MC even helped push it thats why she had the suite that wont close over her tits!

as for bringing her the MC would be well aware that bringing his niece within a hundred yards of mr silver would be problematic since silver has already shown himself the type to use his position to force concessions. anyone who's negotiated a contract wouldn't set themselves up like that.

also the MC could just as simply have suggested the niece stay at the mall hand her some extra money to shop some more and come back to pick her up or even suggested she go to a spa movie or any other time sink.

I played that several ways.
1) Having a game end due to actions chosen for Mr. Silver without MC present is moronic.
2) Have fast game ends with little wiggle room is not an option, but a trap.

 

[polywog]

This update certainly took a turn for the worse. within 3 minutes I hit game-over twice. Bubble headed clueless blonde, catches me spying... Implying that my "sneak" skill is less than max. lol

What kind of CEO gets fired for getting his dick sucked? That's just crazytalk. I'd be damned before I'd let any niece of mine work for an asshat like that.

 

[Jcj]

I played that several ways.
1) Having a game end due to actions chosen for Mr. Silver without MC present is moronic.
2) Have fast game ends with little wiggle room is not an option, but a trap.

I think there's no need for adjectives, but suit yourself. Oh, and you've chosen to get sucked, that was your choice.

This update certainly took a turn for the worse. within 3 minutes I hit game-over twice. Bubble headed clueless blonde, catches me spying... Implying that my "sneak" skill is less than max. lol

What kind of CEO gets fired for getting his dick sucked? That's just crazytalk. I'd be damned before I'd let any niece of mine work for an asshat like that.

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[letitbleed]

Okay, lets go step by step.

First, the point is companies didn't even believe he'd be able to make it, so this is why it is a hail mary for him, he doesn't even expect it to work in the first place (hence the happiness after he receives the mail). This is his last chance to succeed (remember he only has 300$ left on his bank account) so that's why he is all in on this project. And you know this happens in real life: really nice projects some guy decides are not worth it, or thinks are impossible to make or a waste of time, and end up not being developed because the middle man had short sight.



Second, about helping her niece be sluttier. Yes, he insinuated she might use her assets to get the job, but he assumes she'll be doing it in front of some "safe-lovely-old man" that needs someone to hire and prefers to have a nice view rather than a random guy working with him. When he does it he does not think about Mr Silver. At all.

Third: about bringing her to the meeting. There's an actual option not to bring her. When they get there, he tries to warn her also, but he fails. And I recommend you to play the prior scenes differently if you are worried that Mr Silver goes talking to her while you are busy, I don't want to spoil, but try.

As of his Uncle and main story, if you choose to bring her with you it means two things: the easy one, you don't care she comes or you are certain Mr Silver won't talk to her, as he is only attracted to certain women, or the second one, he does not want to bring her anywhere near Mr Silver, but knows that if he tells her to go home she'll be upset, as she'll feel she's being treated liked a kid.

And finally...


Where exactly are we selling our niece into sex slavery? x'D I mean, the whole point of not wanting to bring her to the meeting is to avoid that...

And I don't know about T4bbo, but I'm not Russian and I see the variables (the whole set of them, as the MC is who you decide it to be) perfectly logical.

1) the moment the software functioned and the deal was set with only the payment to complete (mr wilson agreed the software performed as expected) the MC is now in the drivers seat legaly speaking mr silver no longer has a leg to stand on since he has admitted the specs were met! B) the MC would have to have contacted many places with a proposal to even get to a mr silver wanting to buy which always has people interested but not willing to commit until a proven product exists the MC has the product its now just a sales job to people who were already on the fence and easier to get sales from.
2)No guy will be telling himself if he gets a girl to go o an interview all slutty that the guy she will be interviewed by is some old invalid who won't take advantage of it unless he knows the person doing the interview already.
3) yup the option exists and it will in many players cases end the game unless you've been playing the game like a min maxer following the walkthrough to get every available point which is the definition of linear play.

 

[Jcj]

1) the moment the software functioned and the deal was set with only the payment to complete (mr wilson agreed the software performed as expected) the MC is now in the drivers seat legaly speaking mr silver no longer has a leg to stand on since he has admitted the specs were met! B) the MC would have to have contacted many places with a proposal to even get to a mr silver wanting to buy which always has people interested but not willing to commit until a proven product exists the MC has the product its now just a sales job to people who were already on the fence and easier to get sales from.
2)No guy will be telling himself if he gets a girl to go o an interview all slutty that the guy she will be interviewed by is some old invalid who won't take advantage of it unless he knows the person doing the interview already.
3) yup the option exists and it will in many players cases end the game unless you've been playing the game like a min maxer following the walkthrough to get every available point which is the definition of linear play.

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[Dr.Brule]

I haven't played the latest version,i'm hesitant after coming across Mr.Silver and the laundromat/bartender guy in the last version.My initial reaction was OH GOD THIS GAME MIGHT HAVE 2 ERICS.

 

[polywog]

I think there's no need for adjectives, but suit yourself. Oh, and you've chosen to get sucked, that was your choice.



I'm not sure if that's even a serious question, but I'll just answer with a quick story I just made up that explains the Game over:
You've signed a contract with his company and he's forced to leave CEO by his board of investors because of work harassment issues. His company now owns your software, but once the new CEO comes up he discovers what Mr Silver was doing with it and decides to freeze it. Of course, he keeps it, but decides not to pay you fully and threatens you to go to court. You know he's too much of a company to go against so you settle. There, game over story.

And I insist, I don't want to spoil anything, but play variables and see if there's any way to avoid him offering the job.

I've been sued for sexual harassment more times than I can count on all my digits. The only one getting fired is the bitch who didn't knock on my office door. Consensual sex in a closed room is not a crime. Shareholders do not tell me what to do, without me they would be bankrupt overnight, and they know it.

 

[RobJoy]

Okay, lets go step by step.

First, the point is companies didn't even believe he'd be able to make it, so this is why it is a hail mary for him, he doesn't even expect it to work in the first place (hence the happiness after he receives the mail). This is his last chance to succeed (remember he only has 300$ left on his bank account) so that's why he is all in on this project. And you know this happens in real life: really nice projects some guy decides are not worth it, or thinks are impossible to make or a waste of time, and end up not being developed because the middle man had short sight.



Second, about helping her niece be sluttier. Yes, he insinuated she might use her assets to get the job, but he assumes she'll be doing it in front of some "safe-lovely-old man" that needs someone to hire and prefers to have a nice view rather than a random guy working with him. When he does it he does not think about Mr Silver. At all.

Third: about bringing her to the meeting. There's an actual option not to bring her. When they get there, he tries to warn her also, but he fails. And I recommend you to play the prior scenes differently if you are worried that Mr Silver goes talking to her while you are busy, I don't want to spoil, but try.

As of his Uncle and main story, if you choose to bring her with you it means two things: the easy one, you don't care she comes or you are certain Mr Silver won't talk to her, as he is only attracted to certain women, or the second one, he does not want to bring her anywhere near Mr Silver, but knows that if he tells her to go home she'll be upset, as she'll feel she's being treated liked a kid.

And finally...


Where exactly are we selling our niece into sex slavery? x'D I mean, the whole point of not wanting to bring her to the meeting is to avoid that...

And I don't know about T4bbo, but I'm not Russian and I see the variables (the whole set of them, as the MC is who you decide it to be) perfectly logical.

Gimme a break.

The MC knows EXACTLY how fucked up Mr. Silver is.
And for him to be willingly wanting to fuck nieces life just to save his own financial ass is a stretch beyond belief.
Take a fucking loan, like everyone does.

 

[paladin07]

If he needs that guy, for his software and no one else in the world is interested,.... sorry, this is just not how things are.
Failed logic to start with.

Would you sell off your niece or anyone from the family into sex slavery, just so your business succeeds?
Fuck me. Russia must be a crazy place.

 

[serhatdozdiyik]

There's an actual option not to bring her.

I guess you are talking about the when she takes the subway and see the dude from the laundry/club. when that scene end, and I get to mc's pov and try to talk to christine I get stucked in a endless loop "...she doesn't even look at my face..." and then back to Mr. Silver's office in the morning. it's not really a big deal if the conversation just ends there, but I'm sure it will have an impact in future, since there is a thing named store.BigBlackCock when i was playing with the values. ofc i'm just assuming it's about that guy, maybe it's something else that i missed.

 

[paladin07]

the software is a total spyware set you can bet there would be a large number of clients scrambling to get it. Mr silver would be about as powerless as it gets on dictating anything beyond the original specs once the deal was completed and he was contractually indebted to the MC he'd have no pull anymore the MC could sue the corp into oblivion after silver accepted the product was what he asked for.

Suing Mr. Silver would be hard if Silver could establish that it was an illegal product. Contracts for the sale of illegal goods are not enforceable. Much like a prostitute cannot sue you for stiffing her on the payment.

 

[RobJoy]

I guess you are talking about the when she takes the subway and see the dude from the laundry/club. when that scene end, and I get to mc's pov and try to talk to christine I get stucked in a endless loop "...she doesn't even look at my face..." and then back to Mr. Silver's office in the morning. it's not really a big deal if the conversation just ends there, but I'm sure it will have an impact in future, since there is a thing named store.BigBlackCock when i was playing with the values. ofc i'm just assuming it's about that guy, maybe it's something else that i missed.

Yeah exactly.

Annoying and worrisome as hell.

But you can get around it if you simply do not go to her room and go in your room instead.
Go on the computer, so time passes,.... go to sleep.

 

[RobJoy]

Suing Mr. Silver would be hard if Silver could establish that it was an illegal product. Contracts for the sale of illegal goods are not enforceable. Much like a prostitute cannot sue you for stiffing her on the payment.

Dude, they signed a contract.
Silver is as guilty as a fox.

MC just made a software that does one thing.
If you use that in nefarious ways, it is up to you.

You can use a knife to cut vegetables and make lunch, or you can kill someone.
Is the company that made the knife to blame?
GTFO

 

[Gomly1980]

His company now owns your software, but once the new CEO comes up he discovers what Mr Silver was doing with it and decides to freeze it. Of course, he keeps it, but decides not to pay you fully and threatens you to go to court. You know he's too much of a company to go against so you settle.

On what grounds would he go to court?

The specs of the software were given the OK by Silver. It does not matter what he was going to do with it, that's now the problem of the company that signed the contract.

If he took it to court he'd be shooting himself in the foot as his company is the one that offered the contract and kept the software which they didn't pay the contracted amount for leaving them in breach of said contract. Not only would the courts force them to pay they would also have dragged their own reputation through the shitter and would struggle doing business with any reputable company. That is, of course, unless the courts decide the software is dodgy as all hell and everyone goes down. Either way, it would make the person a bit of a fool for taking it to court in the first place.

He'd also be following Silver out the door and after a blunder that big i'm guessing litter picker would probably be the highest paid job he'd find, can't exactly lose a company millions by doing that.

I really, genuinely, truly don't want to argue or split hairs and I know it's a game for porn but things need to make some sort of logical sense.

The MC can't be a complete moron which this scenario makes him out to be. Anyone that has their own business needs at least a working knowledge of business law so they don't completely make love to their own rectums but even if they didn't they would at least seek some advice before telling someone they supposedly love to drop to their knees and take a throatful of old bloke sperm.

Don't get me wrong, I genuinely enjoy the game and the writing is great but i'm just struggling with this scenario, and it's not just here but this kind of thing in general. Using someone you supposedly love and are asked to look out for to get yourself out of trouble just wouldn't happen.

But that's a me thing and the reason i'm not a fan of NTR/Eric/cuck/i'msureithasothernames. It just makes either the player look like a fool or the character it's happening to if it isn't player controlled.

By fuck I don't half ramble some times.

And my spelling today is awful.

 

[Jcj]

Gimme a break.

The MC knows EXACTLY how fucked up Mr. Silver is.
And for him to be willingly wanting to fuck nieces life just to save his own financial ass is a stretch beyond belief.
Take a fucking loan, like everyone does.

Give you a break? Dudes, you are the ones saying it is not realistic just because it does not fit your schemes. All I'm saying is this kind of situation is plausible in a non-cuckold non-stupid MC, specially if you choose the right things to avoid Mr Silver offering her a job.

Suing Mr. Silver would be hard if Silver could establish that it was an illegal product. Contracts for the sale of illegal goods are not enforceable. Much like a prostitute cannot sue you for stiffing her on the payment.

The new CEO could blame the older CEO on those terms, saying it was his choice to use it to spy the co-workers and Uncle knew. Yeah, sure, they'd take some fine, but big company can pay and would get over with it. The software, itself, is not ilegal. It is a safety tool. It is when Mr Silver uses it for ilegal things that it becomes dangerous.

 

[RobJoy]

Bah.

 

[MantisK]

1) Dude, the moment the software works, Mr Silver owns the software. B) No one wanted to commit, as it was a huge investment and nothing assured them it would work, only Mr Silver did.
2) Maybe I didn't explained myself: he assumed the person doing the interview would be a normal guy. Asume you are in that position, that girl comes, she starts doing that. Ok, you hire her, but if you are not Mr Silver (one of a kind) that means it's really unlikely you will force her to do anything she doesn't want to. After all, in many companies those who perform the interviews are not even working with you!
3) I'm going to have to check it again, as you all sound so confident you are making me doubt, but I think you are wrong on option 3. I'm saying play it with different options and you are talking about just one.

Well, I opened from the end of 0.4 where I saved the last game fully following walk through for max points. There were only a couple choices prior to Mr Silver with intern and getting to office with niece. Do not see how I misplayed unless the 0.4 walk through is now void and earlier options/points were altered.

EDIT: I started from the end of 0.4 and in the shop chose regular bikini and then BOTH outfits are sexy/slutty. I chose skirt the time Mr Silver offered her job. Think shorts are worse outfit, so makes no sense.

 

[Jcj]

Using someone you supposedly love and are asked to look out for to get yourself out of trouble just wouldn't happen.

Yeah, but that's the problem, I don't see where you see this is happening.

Maybe my english is not as good as I thought, but I tried to explain that everything uncle does in that scenario is actually to prevent that from happening.