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armion82

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Dunno about Glamour - it's complex and early in development so I would give it a time as it surely requires much more funds than renpy linear vns. Babysitter is a fine example of how much difference funds can do as it's growing rather well when it comes to staff and updates size. Considering some new mechanics that were announced it seems like pledges are well used in this one. But I agree with smaller devs. It's such a shame games like Our Fate are barely able to reach 400$ just because they were late on Patreon. Sooner or later market will change so there is some hope for smaller teams
Yeah A Sister's Love is also on 400$ mark.
Same goes with Freeloading Family.They almost all the time around 300$.
Two weeks is under 200$,and Milf's Tale have under 30 patrons
Life with Mary is now more than 600$,he actualy surpass Au-Pair Innocence.
 

Heitcaho

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Got a nice poll going on at T4bbo's patreon.

1) Just include Silver's Wife
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2) Just Silver's Daughter
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3) Include both (Best option, fuck the people who just want to take options away from the non NTR crowd)
4) Focus on the existing characters
 

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I would surely go for 3. Both seem like a nice and natural addition. They could be introduced within 2-3 updates so its not like they will make everything rushed and crowded. My only issue with them is that on Silver route daughter except for lesbian actions with Christine might have nothing to do unless Robert or someone else will come. On Robert's route they're fine but most likely he won't meet them at all so it makes both these routes a bit unbalanced in comparison if not written well. We will see but I'm always up for more characters and choices
 

armion82

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Got a nice poll going on at T4bbo's patreon.

1) Just include Silver's Wife
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2) Just Silver's Daughter
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3) Include both (Best option, fuck the people who just want to take options away from the non NTR crowd)
4) Focus on the existing characters
I'm not sure how I should react to the poll.
On one hand polls in most cases are realy bad idea/BB par example/,not to mention almost always there is one option that easily win making it no poll at all.Another concern is that adding 2 more girls before even getting more than HJ/BJ from the 2 main LI is a big deal.
On the other hand this team prove that can handle characters.And will be happy to see how they will do it better than BB's additional girls/Olivia,Kate,Diana,Vicky,Eve/ that was there only to slow and stop in Lisa's case,the progress with main girls-Anna,Alice and Lisa.
 
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ltpika

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Uh oh, adding new characters is usually a sign of the creator's boredom. As has been the case many times before, Patreon games almost never make it to the point where you get the main girl. People seem to have mental blocks that don't allow them to notice such an obvious pattern. I hope this game can be different, it's gotten a lot better since burt reynolds mustache took over writing. I think they should take the BBBen approach, finish the story they set out to tell, then release post game updates that add more story branches. Kind of like DLC that adds to the post game of an rpg. It could kind of continue the corruption angle by having you introduce Christine to the idea of polyamory. Or offer a revenge angle if you're on the NTR path.
 

ltpika

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There's also a great conversation going on in the Daughter for Dessert thread about how corruption games starting with handjobs and blowjobs make little sense and don't really reflect reality. Why start with something women do reluctantly and get nothing out of? Handjobs are usually a sign your girlfriend is tired and want you to stop bugging her. The DfD approach makes a lot more sense, two people being overcome with passion seems more realistic than going through the same escalating scale of foreplay that has become a cliche at this point. Especially with incest, I think the urge would be to make love and see if you get it out of your systems. Because you'd be wondering if it was the taboo driving you or actual feelings.
 

armion82

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There's also a great conversation going on in the Daughter for Dessert thread about how corruption games starting with handjobs and blowjobs make little sense and don't really reflect reality. Why start with something women do reluctantly and get nothing out of? Handjobs are usually a sign your girlfriend is tired and want you to stop bugging her. The DfD approach makes a lot more sense, two people being overcome with passion seems more realistic than going through the same escalating scale of foreplay that has become a cliche at this point. Especially with incest, I think the urge would be to make love and see if you get it out of your systems. Because you'd be wondering if it was the taboo driving you or actual feelings.
My guess is that in most cases the main LI is a virgin(D/DmD,MSN/,Lisa/BB/,Alice/DoD/,Elly and Ada/PL/,Christine/Babysitter/) and you can't just jump into sex.And the other sister or possible LI is usualy a bitch or act like a bitch,so no sex either:)Still strangely we don't get much further with Jessica than BJ,but I suppose she is not that much experienced than Christine after all.Although she was easy target for Robert.
 

ltpika

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My guess is that in most cases the main LI is a virgin(D/DmD,MSN/,Lisa/BB/,Alice/DoD/,Elly and Ada/PL/,Christine/Babysitter/) and you can't just jump into sex.
That makes very little sense. Why would a virgin want start with something they get nothing out of? I can understand a handy because maybe they want to know what a dick feels like. Blowjobs really push it, though. Only porn stars offer that stuff up at a drop of a hat (because it's scripted, you can tell even they probably find it tiresome.) A lot of girls usually wait for a special event like the prom to have their first time, there was a movie called Blockers released recently about that very subject. Making love is romantic to them, not blowjobs or handjobs. That might be something you can talk your girl into trying after you've been satisfying her for awhile. Starting with a BJ only really works with blackmail, rape/slavery or hypnosis games. It's why the Dating my Daughter felt wonky, but at least you could rationalize it because of the RPG style "unlock" mechanic.
 

ltpika

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The point was that the male MC cannot just jump the girls right of the bat.. That makes no sense in an incest story imo..
That was never what I was saying. Daughter for Dessert is 8 updates in, it's quite a ways into the story. And only now have father and daughter given in to their lust. Point was it's sexier and makes more sense that they made love instead of stopping to fill out a foreplay check list
 

ltpika

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Yes, and DfD has added new characters as well recently.
Same thing, means Palmer is bored. Already working on another game with 2D art as well. Hopefully he can muster a few more updates to wrap things up in a good way. This is the Babysitter thread, though, I don't mean to derail or anything.
 

armion82

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That was never what I was saying. Daughter for Dessert is 8 updates in, it's quite a ways into the story. And only now have father and daughter given in to their lust. Point was it's sexier and makes more sense that they made love instead of stopping to fill out a foreplay check list
You realise that just because DfD do that and you like it,that doesn't mean anything.It's like you say Bayonetta have an awesome battle mechanic.I want that in Dark Souls.Or Yuuki Yuuna Wa Yuusha De Aru is better than Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica.
 

ltpika

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You realise that just because DfD do that and you like it,that doesn't mean anything.It's like you say Bayonetta have an awesome battle mechanic.I want that in Dark Souls.Or Yuuki Yuuna Wa Yuusha De Aru is better than Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica.
Wow that was like French to me, I think the only thing I recognized in there was Bayonetta, which is still in my backlog.
 

armion82

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Wow that was like French to me, I think the only thing I recognized in there was Bayonetta, which is still in my backlog.
Seems you're not anime fan.Don't let pictures fool you.Both series are not simple magical girls anime.

 
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