alexw14615

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Some of you people disgust me. You bitch and moan about the updates but you're unwilling to donate the equivalent of a big mac meal to support your favorite developers. You have no problems buying a game for your ps4/xbox though and sometimes our porn games have more hours of content. This is the exact reason why this niche cant truly expand and become more than just vn's. People that bitch and boast about not supporting should be banned. Everything can't be free
 

rogosh

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With that said from reading these posts if there isnt any Jess content I'll just wait for the next update. IMO, Christine isnt sexy and shes annoying. I dont care who she fucks just go away lol
There is jess content, webcam stuff that is pretty hot.
 
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03abc

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Thank You!
Do you have more save games from earlier events?
All my saves, but i don't know if you want them, cause there is one big mess xD
Mostly silver route, some of the mc but i didn't played this route since around 1.2 update. Some of the saves are corrupted, including probably all robert ones. Saves are placed until 16 or 17 tab.
 

Bahamut Zero

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So i need to wait till toomorrow, is usless for me to play this v0.17 without the fix. The only important thing for me is MC and Christine or MC with other. Silver or Robert can die with tumor or cancer in the ball, Dick and almost in all the other body part:cool:
 
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khumak

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So i need to wait till toomorrow, is usless for me to play this v0.17 without the fix. The only important thing for me is MC and Christine or MC with other. Silver or Robert can die with tumor or cancer in the ball, Dick and almost in all the other body part:cool:
Sounded like the bugs are mostly centered around the Silver NTR path so you probably wouldn't be affected. I did a full playthrough without hitting any bugs (Patreon horny path).
 

Mt PewPew

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People that bitch and boast about not supporting should be banned. Everything can't be free
Don't get me wrong, I am perfectly fine with monetarily supporting my favorite game devs, but this comment made me laugh considering you posted this on a site for pirating the same games you say can't be free. :ROFLMAO:
 

jmts16

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With that said from reading these posts if there isnt any Jess content I'll just wait for the next update. IMO, Christine isnt sexy and shes annoying. I dont care who she fucks just go away lol
I'll agree that her wishy-washyness is getting annoying. That said, there's still hope for her.
 
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armion82

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With that said from reading these posts if there isnt any Jess content I'll just wait for the next update. IMO, Christine isnt sexy and shes annoying. I dont care who she fucks just go away lol
There is some Jess stuff but not that many.Check here if you don't afraid to be spoiled.
 
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redle

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Most of the patreon pages I've seen where people are bringing in that sort of money it's not a single dev but a team. $10-20k per month for 1 person is enough to quit your job and do full time, but if you spread that out over even a 2 person team then you could probably make more at your "real job" unless you live in a low wage country where $5k or so is a lot of money. I couldn't even cover my mortgage with that. So I would guess most devs are only doing it part time unless they hate their "real job" so much that they're willing to take a big pay cut.

I can definitely see it still having an influence on the quality of the game though. If I'm a part time dev making a game as a hobby and only making $500 a month on Patreon, that's probably not even enough for me to be willing to spend money upgrading my computer and buying a bunch of art assets. (I might do it anyway but not because of the Patreon money). If I'm making $5k per month on Patreon, that's not enough for me to quit my day job and do it full time, but I could see buying a dedicated rendering machine and some art assets.

Now if you're bringing in say $30-40k per month and producing 3 or 4 games at the same time with a dedicated artist, dedicated writer, dedicated coder working full time, then that's a different story but I haven't seen many sites where it looks like anyone's got the kind of resources they'd need for that. Plus if you have a team with the skills/dedication for that, wouldn't you make more if you go work for Rockstar games or something? Or is it only the owners making serious money there? I have no idea.

There may be some teams with their own paywalled site not relying on Patreon that have those sorts of numbers, but I don't have any way to see stats on those.
I don't really want to get involved in any "are devs producing enough" debate. But I do want to point out that $5k per month equals $60k per year. It's nice that it sounds like you make a ton of money. Good for you. But $60k per year is pretty darn close to the average Household (not single individual) income for families in USA. It is by no means an unlivable wage. It's actually a pretty good wage.

Either way, I'm sure most people understand that a dev's gotta eat. And what I'd be willing to work for from a source as unstable as Patreon versus a solid job whose exact income I can actually count on day in and day out are not the same thing.
 

khumak

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I don't really want to get involved in any "are devs producing enough" debate. But I do want to point out that $5k per month equals $60k per year. It's nice that it sounds like you make a ton of money. Good for you. But $60k per year is pretty darn close to the average Household (not single individual) income for families in USA. It is by no means an unlivable wage. It's actually a pretty good wage.

Either way, I'm sure most people understand that a dev's gotta eat. And what I'd be willing to work for from a source as unstable as Patreon versus a solid job whose exact income I can actually count on day in and day out are not the same thing.
Point taken, although someone with the skill set needed to make their own game could also get a "real job" in the tech industry where $60k is pretty far below the median wage. Tech is not the only high wage industry but it's the one most directly applicable to people considering the wage tradeoff for doing something like this for a living IMO.
 

RonnieH

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Some of you people disgust me. You bitch and moan about the updates but you're unwilling to donate the equivalent of a big mac meal to support your favorite developers. You have no problems buying a game for your ps4/xbox though and sometimes our porn games have more hours of content. This is the exact reason why this niche cant truly expand and become more than just vn's. People that bitch and boast about not supporting should be banned. Everything can't be free
Absolutely seething. Welcome to the Internet. You're going to have a bad time on it with that kind of attitude.
 
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bjornt2

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Some of you people disgust me. You bitch and moan about the updates but you're unwilling to donate the equivalent of a big mac meal to support your favorite developers. You have no problems buying a game for your ps4/xbox though and sometimes our porn games have more hours of content. This is the exact reason why this niche cant truly expand and become more than just vn's. People that bitch and boast about not supporting should be banned. Everything can't be free
Agreed, I try to patreon to my top 3 games. but I can't patreon to 50 dev's. So I like that some of it is free ;).
 

SomeOldFart

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OK, saw a Sonya scene. A short Robert scene. A kick ass Silver scene. So I guess the fix will add a Jessica scene and a couple of Christina scenes?
 
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