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First of all, I'd like to say that I agree with you in general, however, there's something I've always said about this game and the sex topic, and it's related to consistency, proposal and balance between what the MC wants to do, what he can/can't do and what he doesn't do.
I'ts supose that MC wants to have sex with all the girls, doesn't matter how(according to some phrases he says through all the game), the player also wants that to happen, but it seems that the Dev doesn't want it to be so easy to be reached (and I agree with that)
BUT, having that in mind, if the Dev doesn't want the MC to have sex fast and easy, he shouldn't create scenarios where the MC has 100% chances to do it but nothing happens without any reason, I'm talking about scenes like Drunk Mrs Ann, Sleeping Pills, Drunk Lucy, Tied up Lucy, etc etc etc.
And that's one of the reasons why many players are frustrated with the Sex topic in this game, according to what I have read.... You're right when you say that Sex is the final action, the final goal in a porn game, but as I said before, I think that in this game, that route could be better developed.
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KurtMons, let's look at this question from a legal point of view. Rubbing your penis against someone's legs is one thing, but inserting your penis for sex into a person in an inadequate state is another. And if in the first case this action can pass for petty hooliganism, then in the second it is already a sexual crime with a decent term in prison. So Bobby is still sane and cautious, and this suggests that he is smart. And RAinces is not a fool, legally there are no claims against him. Well, the fact that he is not very hardworking, so it's true, not Lope de Vega, alas.
I still think that we're in the same side, but what I want to highlight is the bad way RAinces has built the "Not Sex" route in my opinion, every time when the MC shows his sexual feelings towards the girls, you can read a lot of crazy and limitless things he wants to do with them, and there is where we have a conflict between what the MC wants to do, what he can/can't do and what he doesn't do.
If the intention of the Dev is to avoid the MC to have sex, there are a lot of ways to do it with logic and coherency, and most of players will accept that.
And finally, if we go to a legal point of view, depending on the situation, both (Rubbing or Inserting) are crimes, obviuosly not in the same level of course.
We're also talking porn game logic and consequences here, and not real world. As pointed out, Bobby is theoretically going to jail for quite some time if he ever actually got arrested for what he has done so far. But legality only comes into the game if Rainces wants it to. I generally don't worry about legal consequences in any video game unless it's part of the game mechanic.I still think that we're in the same side, but what I want to highlight is the bad way RAinces has built the "Not Sex" route in my opinion, every time when the MC shows his sexual feelings towards the girls, you can read a lot of crazy and limitless things he wants to do with them, and there is where we have a conflict between what the MC wants to do, what he can/can't do and what he doesn't do.
If the intention of the Dev is to avoid the MC to have sex, there are a lot of ways to do it with logic and coherency, and most of players will accept that.
And finally, if we go to a legal point of view, depending on the situation, both (Rubbing or Inserting) are crimes, obviuosly not in the same level of course.
And KurtMons you make a lot of good points about how the game makes you think that everything is leading towards sex, including Bobby's stated intentions to have sex with his family members, but then the game then goes to great lengths to see that it doesn't happen. I'll also agree with an earlier point that Rainces seems to actually be avoiding sex, or at least incest. The game Big Brother was referenced earlier, and that was a game where the dev didn't really get the whole idea and appeal of incest, which in large part (combined with the Patreon crackdown) drove them to abandon the game. It feels like Rainces is the same way. But that is not what is being communicated in any way. At least with Big Brother the developer was pretty forthcoming with their lack of understanding of the incest kink so that people knew what they were dealing with.
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He shouldn’t, but could he ? You are totally right, but two things.
First, we have to keep in mind that it’s an amateur game. I guess RAinces is alone, and he has to build not just a story, but codes, game structure, interractions (there’s not enough I can say, but never mind)… When there’s a team, there’s always the others to say when the scenario is not well.
That’s why, sometimes BBS is very clumsy. I personnaly hate when he bends the knee although he’s in a good position, for exemple when he deletes the pictures of his little sister. There’s no sense. His naivity, for example, when he declares to her, is very clumsy too : he’s a cynical guy, he knows that it won’t work.
At each time, it’s as if we could see the dev’s intentions more than the story. Like in a text, with a clumsy metaphore, or in a movie, with a too much visible Chekhov gun, or product placement. That’s why Kurtmons said : « that seems the Dev doesn’t want it to be easy ».
But, what I said, it’s an amateur game, and I have to say that despite of the clumsiness, I often have been surprised by a few subtelties. And…
Secondly, that’s not so easy to build a credible (a minimum, I mean) story with incest in a mix with domination and affection. Even if there’s a choice between rape way or love way, I think RAinces would like to mix the two : Bobby who dominates, who is a bit violent, and the girls who are afraid and resist, but deeply, love him, love his cock, and love that he’s sexually violent with them (a classical).
Many Devs proposes the option between love and violence, but I think it’s a mistake. If you want to do a love game, you do a love, romance game. If you wanna do something pervert, you do something pervert, and you don’t try to hide your perversity with an optional walk of love, where chances are you’ll be lost (Our Fate is an exception). RAinces doesn’t insist on this, and that’s cool.
But the problem is still here. Domination but happy incest, in a harem way, with all your family is a big and hot fantasm (and formal, because, in general, you don’t want to realize it with your own family – old mom, ugly sisters…), but it’s difficult to imagine how it can be done (because it's not possible in fact). In general, the Devs has to invent a context to explain why the girls will let the MC fuck them. For example, in The Tyrant, the bro was absent during a year, and when he comes back, his step-dad, a cop, plays with the mafia in his own house : the girls, you and every character are in a special position, and you can use that to justify anything. But, actually, BBS has no context. I prefer, but it’s more difficult.
Three years ago I didn’t want to play this game, just waiting for its end, knowing it was not sure he’d be finished one day. I don’t regret to have waited, but I think it’s really better than I thought.
I agree with the ones who think there’s a lack of sex. Maybe RAinces should have given Bob a girl to fuck, from school or whatever, and I think that’s why he has now a beginning of a sexual life with the sister’s friend (sorry I don’t remember the names). But, all this slowness means many scenes which build personnalities of the characters, and even if there’s a few clumsy or incoherent situations, (and even if I don’t remember their names, haha!), I feel them more real than the other girls of games with sandbox.
In particular the two big sisters. There’s nothing new : the alcoholic and teasing sister and the sweet and quiet, but in danger, one. The two are a bit brat. You grab the first when she’s drunk, you threaten the other to take naked pictures. But these two, with all the no-sex scenes, start to be real fictional characters. And the story has different periodes : during a time he gets closer to a sister, but after, he makes something pervert, and during a second time the sister doesn’t want to speak to him, he has to try to conciliate with her, and it comes to a third time, etc. As we say in french, we have a passé commun – I think english says « shared past ».
But now, I think it’s time for them to suck Bobby’s cock. It’s possible to keep building character with sexual stories.
And RAinces, as many Devs of pervert games, should use the orgasm to increase the submission of the girls. I don’t know why (I have an idea in fact), in every game, the MC has a monster penis, but he doesn’t know how to make a girl cum, and he doesn’t even know that the more you make a girl cum, the more she can be dependant of you (it works with all sexes, for sure…). Sometimes, after a rape, he says : « I know you liked it » (not even « you came three times »), but in fact, it’s so banal that it’s worst than saying nothing. Devs should make a MC who (forgive me…) grab the girls by the pussy, lick them, make them cum, and because of that, step by step, they fall for him and for his way of treating them. A big cock gives a good appearance, but if you don’t how you can use it, it’s useless.
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alpharenji2, play all versions, they are free, and will not take much time.
The original is the best by far
The original has the most content, which isn't saying much. It wouldn't take too long for the competition to surpass the original in content if any serious effort is put into their games. Normally I would be against someone putting out a competing game to an existing one, but given the in-and-out of abandonment status of BBS and the slow pace and long delays between updates, I think it can only be a good thing for there to be some competition. We should end up with a better game because of it, even if it's not one put out by Rainces themselves. The threat of competition, along with the threat of losing their money stream, seem to be the main things that cause Rainces to put out new updates.
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Carambis, I partially disagree with you. With all my respect for the work of other authors, so far their works have little resemblance to competing versions. It's more like a kind of addition. Besides, I do not know of any remake better than the original. Although maybe I'm very conservative. A significant disadvantage is that no one except RAinces knows the scenario part of this project. And the models differ from the original ones. And most importantly, the performance of other developers is also not particularly productive. The only thing I agree with you is that the actions of other developers may push RAinces to be more actively engaged in their own project.
I don't think we've seen enough from the other developers yet, largely because they seem to pause their efforts when Rainces puts out a new update. They're all fans of the original, and if Rainces were to put out updates regularly, they'd more than likely stop their projects. Rainces is kind of counting on this though, as they seem to put out new updates specifically to pause them. Most of the competition seems stalled in the first update or so as they wait.
From what I've seen, the models are close enough for my tastes, or sometimes pretty identical. At least some of the competition is made up of people who volunteered to do rendering for Rainces in the past, so they know how to make the characters. Meanwhile, Rainces themselves has messed with their own models, such as with Jenny and I also believe Liza quite a few updates back. BBS: The Return seems to get the models I've seen right, but it messed up the story from the start. The major issue with all of the competition so far has been that they intentionally deviate from the source material in arbitrary ways, when what they need to do is just either reboot the game or provide a continuation. People don't want vastly different storylines or new characters with different visual styles. This applies to the original game as well as the competition though.
I'd normally be in agreement about remakes never living up to the original. But there's really not much to live up to in the BBS version. The story is a mishmash of tropes or outright taking storylines from other games, especially Big Brother. The dialog is so minimal and poorly written or translated that it could honestly do with a change, because it's probably the weakest part of the game both between how little dialog there is and how poorly written it is. I think it would be easy to replicate the dialog style with minimal effort though, because it's distinctive without there being any skill behind it. Although really why not do better if you can? People like to talk about how great the characters or the story are, but there's not much to either. Mostly it's been what we as players have been mentally fleshing out in our head as we play the games. The characters are just very narrow archetypes and not really anything special personality-wise. It's mostly the female characters being angry with Bobby, or disappointed, or being drunk or asleep, if they're even aware of his presence at all.
The future scenarios that Rainces has planned are largely irrelevant, especially if we never see them, or it takes several more years for it to all play out. Or if it just doesn't play out well. I don't really see any surprises coming up in the story because Rainces does things pretty predictably and generally just sticks to the afore-mentioned tropes or storylines from other games. The real surprises for the game are if an update actually comes out or actual incest happens.
I'll say what I've said before: BBS is a game with tremendous potential, although a lot of that remains unfulfilled. I enjoy it primarily because of where I think it's headed, and the stories it is hinting at in the future. But it's not getting there nearly fast enough for anyone's taste. And it may not even be headed there at all, depending on what Rainces' plans are. But all of this unfulfilled potential leaves the game wide open to someone more ambitious coming in and making a better game. Although not one so much better where it doesn't feel like the original. You kind of have to embrace the mess that this game is, and maybe polish things up a little, but other than that don't try to change it. Just move it forward in ways that Rainces doesn't seem willing or capable of. If their versions play out in ways different than what Rainces planned, then I don't really care as long as it's fun and sexy. So far there's been far too little of that in the original.
stuck at jenny's story. how can i get a car? it still shows spy on jenny at day time...how many times should I do it? i did it 2 days at a stretch. how can I give necklace to lucy? I missed giving the necklace to lucy....story progressed to kelly scene
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