VN Ren'Py Abandoned Bad Bobby Saga [v1.1.0] [RAinces]

[skydra]

Regardless of how "dark" you choose to end up making it, for the story's sake it would need to be tamer at the beginning as characters and relationships are introduced and the plot is presented to the player. This gives you the opportunity to start with a version similar in tone to "Dark Path" and then gradually make it darker while listening to feedback and figuring out if it's the right direction.

oh yes definitely something like that was my idea to gradually escalate and see reactions, although to be honest it was not my only plot line that I had thought, I thought of several routes, both in individual mode and harem mode, I even have some crazy ideas of not so creepy endings...

but at the moment everything is still stored in the back of my mind because for the moment I still can not develop all the ideas of possible routes that I think, due to the lack of a good pc, with which to work.

but if I manage to do a good business that I have in mind for the end of January, maybe I can buy a new pc and with it start to work in depth in the project... in fact I even have the name in mind but for the moment I reserve it to avoid salting the project ....

 

[Achilicheese]

oh yes definitely something like that was my idea to gradually escalate and see reactions, although to be honest it was not my only plot line that I had thought, I thought of several routes, both in individual mode and harem mode, I even have some crazy ideas of not so creepy endings...

but at the moment everything is still stored in the back of my mind because for the moment I still can not develop all the ideas of possible routes that I think, due to the lack of a good pc, with which to work.

but if I manage to do a good business that I have in mind for the end of January, maybe I can buy a new pc and with it start to work in depth in the project... in fact I even have the name in mind but for the moment I reserve it to avoid salting the project ....

Hey , I mean if you follow the very original theme that bad Bobby had , like before all the remake . You’ll create a top tier game.

that’s one thing that alot of devs don’t understand is that, you don’t need super flashy hot scenes . You just need to make it feel realistic.

not just jump to sex right away. But have a push and pull type dynamic that the original had.

 

[liodos]

stop supporting himm wake upppp!!

 

[shark80]

stop supporting himm wake upppp!!

exactly...

He is the milking expert, he knows exactly how to milk his patrons. He still gets just under $900 now for nothing..

First someone has to announce that they are releasing a remake of the game, then the update comes immediately. That was exactly the case with TeamSaga and co...

Promise, it would happen again.

 

[I-No]

[...] someone has to announce that they are releasing a remake of the game, then the update comes immediately.

Well, keep the announcements coming then! Either way it's a win...

 

[NatSlayer]

Is this game going somewhere or is it just a dollar computer? Since that test update of 1.1 I see that it remains the same as in the old days, the only difference is a little more active discor

 

[Deleted member 3727657]

Bobby : Master of incest flirting sentences
One of the best games I have experienced (one of the top 10 games)

 

[Blepleb]

This one is meh
But the previous one Bad Bobby/Brother Saga, I don't get the name of it. Well it is in the first post Previos Spoiler. So the Previous one is just a treasure. I didn't find a separate thread for it here on F95 that's why I'm saying it here
Though it says that it's version is 1.0 but still a lot of content is promised to be added in the next versions but as far as I get there will be no next versions, because now we have this bugged demo and the previous game seems to be abandoned

Oh and by the way previously I knew only about Bad Bobby Saga Dark Path. So comparing to the original the dark path is... well... does not worth one' attention

 

[nono_boulot]

it crash a lot for the moment. Can't try to stealth without error

 

[Zzz-zzzzzz]

Does anyone know how to get more sleeping pills?

 

[wei26446145]

Who will be the heroine next?

 

[edgaia]

oh yes definitely something like that was my idea to gradually escalate and see reactions, although to be honest it was not my only plot line that I had thought, I thought of several routes, both in individual mode and harem mode, I even have some crazy ideas of not so creepy endings...

but at the moment everything is still stored in the back of my mind because for the moment I still can not develop all the ideas of possible routes that I think, due to the lack of a good pc, with which to work.

but if I manage to do a good business that I have in mind for the end of January, maybe I can buy a new pc and with it start to work in depth in the project... in fact I even have the name in mind but for the moment I reserve it to avoid salting the project ....

Só vi os teus posts agora...

# There are two issues I'd like to address: picking up BBS and putting your ideas into the game.

* Picking up BBS:
As some already mentioned, if you manage to make a decent BBS game, BBS audience will follow. Yeah, you shall not use other devs' material but you'll need to keep the characters and the game premise: fun buildup. Plz refrain from going darker, building a harem or a fuckfest. That's not what BBS is all about - Zip got it wrong there but he meant well trying to fill the lack of sex.

* Putting your ideas into the game
You claim to have a lot of ideas for the game, some of them quite extreme and aggressive. Who hasn't...? But keep in mind that there are plenty of games like that out there and that's exactly the opposite of what made original BBS so great (naive, "realistic", hard to get some,...). If you have all those ideas popping into your head just make a new game. New theme, new characters. Bring something new to the world and build an audience from scratch.

Bottom line, if you're really eager to see how far you could take BBS, respect its premises.

 

[skydra]

Só vi os teus posts agora...

# There are two issues I'd like to address: picking up BBS and putting your ideas into the game.

* Picking up BBS:
As some already mentioned, if you manage to make a decent BBS game, BBS audience will follow. Yeah, you shall not use other devs' material but you'll need to keep the characters and the game premise: fun buildup. Plz refrain from going darker, building a harem or a fuckfest. That's not what BBS is all about - Zip got it wrong there but he meant well trying to fill the lack of sex.

* Putting your ideas into the game
You claim to have a lot of ideas for the game, some of them quite extreme and aggressive. Who hasn't...? But keep in mind that there are plenty of games like that out there and that's exactly the opposite of what made original BBS so great (naive, "realistic", hard to get some,...). If you have all those ideas popping into your head just make a new game. New theme, new characters. Bring something new to the world and build an audience from scratch.

Bottom line, if you're really eager to see how far you could take BBS, respect its premises.

as i have always said it was just an idea but not something that is already on the development table, i really have a genuine love for the story, and i only asked in a theoretical way to see what the reaction would be, but nevertheless my personal vote is to try to follow the original idea of the game, like many I have been following this game since almost its beginnings and I regret that the original author of this story, never gave us the complete game, and although I know that several people have tried to give their own direction to the story, I would try to base the game to the original idea, because I see that for many people this is something vital.

 

[Stil996]

as i have always said it was just an idea but not something that is already on the development table, i really have a genuine love for the story, and i only asked in a theoretical way to see what the reaction would be, but nevertheless my personal vote is to try to follow the original idea of the game, like many I have been following this game since almost its beginnings and I regret that the original author of this story, never gave us the complete game, and although I know that several people have tried to give their own direction to the story, I would try to base the game to the original idea, because I see that for many people this is something vital.

I couldn't disagree more with Edgaia, you are you, don't try to be anyone else, ZipTieFun already made this mistake and all it did was attract a bunch of entitled children who bitch and whine whenever he deviates from their vision of what this game should be (he has some other problems too, but I don't think they would be so bad if he hadn't made that mistake). It's Rainces job to finish his game not yours or anyone elses.
The basic premise for this game is not original, it has been started and abandoned by many Devs over the years (long before RAince began his), build on the elements you love, discard those you don't... Make YOUR game, make something YOU are proud off, your love for your project is going to be the only thing that will give you strength in the face of the trolling you WILL attract from certain followers of this game.

 

[edgaia]

as i have always said it was just an idea but not something that is already on the development table, i really have a genuine love for the story, and i only asked in a theoretical way to see what the reaction would be, but nevertheless my personal vote is to try to follow the original idea of the game, like many I have been following this game since almost its beginnings and I regret that the original author of this story, never gave us the complete game, and although I know that several people have tried to give their own direction to the story, I would try to base the game to the original idea, because I see that for many people this is something vital.

Eu não disse ideia mas premissa...

# I haven't meant idea (story,...) but premise. You can create a whole new set of events but keep its premise like in SP's BBS 2. Same beautiful characters, fun events build up, hard to get some real action from the girls, stuff like that and avoid diving straight to sex like any other porn game.

 

[edgaia]

I couldn't disagree more with Edgaia, you are you, don't try to be anyone else, ZipTieFun already made this mistake and all it did was attract a bunch of entitled children who bitch and whine whenever he deviates from their vision of what this game should be (he has some other problems too, but I don't think they would be so bad if he hadn't made that mistake). It's Rainces job to finish his game not yours or anyone elses.
The basic premise for this game is not original, it has been started and abandoned by many Devs over the years (long before RAince began his), build on the elements you love, discard those you don't... Make YOUR game, make something YOU are proud off, your love for your project is going to be the only thing that will give you strength in the face of the trolling you WILL attract from certain followers of this game.

Claro que nao concordas...

# Of course you don't agree... But:

- Unlike SummmerP, Zip always made it very clear about trying to work on and improve the original story, since the time he was Axeman. He's decided to ride the wave of RA's success, so he should be prepared to handle expectations...

( And yes, people bitch a lot about Zip and for good reasons, adding to those you just mentioned )

- RAInces will never finish it. Everybody knows that, but the game is way too good to be left stranded.

- BBS premises aren't unique but not that common either. Awesome girls, slow burning, sex extremely dificult to get, really fun events. Most turn to fuckfest after 10 min of gameplay. No thanks.

So any fan trying to pick it up where RA left off, should make an effort to keep those premises. But if the dev has other ideas (rape, harem,...), fine. Then he should start something similar but new, not BBS.

 

[Corambis]

- RAInces will never finish it. Everybody knows that, but the game is way too good to be left stranded.

- BBS premises aren't unique but not that common either. Awesome girls, slow burning, sex extremely dificult to get, really fun events. Most turn to fuckfest after 10 min of gameplay. No thanks.

So any fan trying to pick it up where RA left off, should make an effort to keep those premises. But if the dev has other ideas (rape, harem,...), fine. Then he should start something similar but new, not BBS.

The best we can hope from Rainces is that he'll put out the occasional update after very long delays of several months or more, but even another update is questionable from him. There may even be good content in them, although the definition of "good" varies from person to person. But their overall vision for the question for the game is still a bit of a mystery. We all thought we knew at one time or another, or at least I thought I did.

And that's what I want from any BBS-based game someone makes: that vision... that potential I saw in the originally fulfilled. I want a slow-build (but not glacially paced) incest game. Corruption is fine as long as it doesn't fall into this endless cycle of corruption and sex avoidance Rainces has made.

For me at least, rape doesn't fall outside that vision, as that seemed to be hinted from the very start and Rainces himself has basically made a game focused on varying degrees of sexual assault. I don't want that necessarily to be the focus of the game though, since Rainces seemed to have multiple paths in mind for different women. And I don't want a darker or officially Dark version of the game. Bobby is selfish and narcissistic and completely focused on sex, but I don't want to play a game where he goes legitimally evil. I just want to see a game where he meets his stated goals of screwing his entire family, and since we aren't likely to see that for Rainces, I'd love to see that from someone else. But no one else seems interested. They want to make "BBS, but with..." when to me the only acceptable continuation of that is "with faster progress in game and less time between updates" or something along those lines.

 

[edgaia]

The best we can hope from Rainces is that he'll put out the occasional update after very long delays of several months or more, but even another update is questionable from him. There may even be good content in them, although the definition of "good" varies from person to person. But their overall vision for the question for the game is still a bit of a mystery. We all thought we knew at one time or another, or at least I thought I did.

And that's what I want from any BBS-based game someone makes: that vision... that potential I saw in the originally fulfilled. I want a slow-build (but not glacially paced) incest game. Corruption is fine as long as it doesn't fall into this endless cycle of corruption and sex avoidance Rainces has made.

For me at least, rape doesn't fall outside that vision, as that seemed to be hinted from the very start and Rainces himself has basically made a game focused on varying degrees of sexual assault. I don't want that necessarily to be the focus of the game though, since Rainces seemed to have multiple paths in mind for different women. And I don't want a darker or officially Dark version of the game. Bobby is selfish and narcissistic and completely focused on sex, but I don't want to play a game where he goes legitimally evil. I just want to see a game where he meets his stated goals of screwing his entire family, and since we aren't likely to see that for Rainces, I'd love to see that from someone else. But no one else seems interested. They want to make "BBS, but with..." when to me the only acceptable continuation of that is "with faster progress in game and less time between updates" or something along those lines.

Sim é isso...

# That's what I meant ( I don't discard rape and other kinky stuff but they can't become the norm, the new flavor... Just understand and follow the original, I say... )

 

[Corambis]

Sim é isso...

# That's what I meant ( I don't discard rape and other kinky stuff but they can't become the norm, the new flavor... Just understand and follow the original, I say... )

I agree. Neither should this suddenly become some happy dating sim type game, although if there is a happy path with one of the girls, that's cool. I think Rainces once mentioned a love path was planned for every main woman, but I think that was long abandoned.

I think in general what we want is the game we thought we were going to get after playing through the first few updates. We might differ on the details, but it wasn't too dark for a game focused around sexual assault, blackmail, and the like. Bobby was dumb, and yes, he was bad. But in the mischievous, naughty sense. Not in some broader moral categorization. I don't think many of us were looking for Rainces to do anything revolutionary with this game. We wanted standard incest stuff like we were getting with many other games at the time, just in a different package and with some appealing models and a workable framework of a story. I'm still not sure how we got from that years ago all the way to today where we're on like the 19th update, nothing really is happening, and if Rainces does make more updates he's just as likely to spend time tinkering with the interface as telling a story. If he does tell a story, it will be just a meandering detour on the way to possibly eventually maybe having sex with these women.

 

[skydra]

I have really thought about the idea of maybe basing on the original story, but certainly I would not like to touch anything from RA or any other person, this would reflect that everything would have to be done again from scratch, and although I know that this is not the most gratifying idea for many, maybe, I would do it for 2 main reasons

the first one because there will always be comparisons of what I do, what he does and what the other one did, and sincerely if they are going to criticize my work I prefer it to be based on what I did myself from the beginning,

secondly because one of my main ideas is to increase a little the dynamics of some changes of clothes, because although many will want everything based on the original idea one of the things that I have always had a little problem with on a personal level is the perpetuity of the same clothes during almost all the game.

I mean... I change my clothes every day and I rarely see the same clothes twice in a week, so I want to create a new wardrobe for all the characters, besides there are some objects that I have not been able to recreate in the same way as the original files so I would have to change some things for others, but as I said, always trying to stick to the original idea...

besides I would like to make an integration of a more open world, and with some new characters, obviously it will always be a priority the family action, but I would also like to add some new characters.

clarifying that in my idea bobby will not become filthy rich from one day to another nor will he have a super mansion overnight, as I said I will try to respect the original idea always but with a dynamic a little more fluid and faster.

and although I know that for many the idea of redoing everything from scratch, following the bases of what already exists is not the best, I will try to dedicate myself as much as possible to develop the game at a speed of at least one monthly update.

the difference with other devs is that fortunately my work allows me to have many dead hours between one thing and another so the lack of time will not be a factor for me to be able to work on the game.

so first of all I hope to achieve my key objective and be able to get a new pc with which I can give free rein to my creativity and finally give a stable rhythm to the updates.