Who knows Maggy is Rachel's friend after all but Ellie is so precious....I might get wounded when we found out about her dark pastRachel's "friend" is another thing that's bugging me. Who is she? Can she be trusted? She slept with Rachel (once), didn't she? Are they still friends? Just friends?Yeah, I may be a bit jealous there. But really, who the hell is she?
The game does keep you on the edge, doesn't it?
She wouldn't, but it is possible since deciding to be a better person, she could be Maggy's friend or her bosses friend, and simply ask them to let Rachel know if anyone with your name looking for housing, and it is plausible.
And it's natural to assume Rachel offered the mc a place to stay. At least until the mc finds another. Now imagine the surprise on Rachel's face when she finds out Maggy and the mc know each other and vice versa. And in addition would explain why Maggy said she's not against the mc sleeping with their mom.
I don't think she would do that...
And as information points to events not being as dramatic as they possibly could be despite the tone of the game being quite serious, I don't think she would resort to burning down the apartment building risking lives of people just to get her kid back. Most likely it was just a coincidence. To make the story happen. 
Yeah, but for NTR, it's worth remembering that different people see it in different ways, so there's always a bit of wiggle room. Even in this topic you already have someone saying they don't consider sex between two women in a harem to be NTR, while others might (especially if you're not involved/giving permission). For some, just the idea that someone else is trying to take someone away from you on an emotional or physical level would count.
Yeah, but there's kind of a huge difference between two people who were already together before the game even started and who already agreed between themselves to share you before you were with either of them, and someone who is taking advantage of someone else in their most emotionally vulnerable state who is and who would probably have nothing to do with them if they weren't doped up on post-hypnotic suggestion drugs. Even more so when the only reason Jada is in a position to do that in the first place is because we pushed to have her come live with us (so it feels more like our responsibility/fault if something bad happens).
Yeah, but for some of that stuff, I was talking more about my feelings/suspicions as things happened in my playthrough (completely unspoiled by reading the thread or checking every tag) more than how I assume things are going now. Like how I mentioned there were points where I suspected that Rachel burned down the apartment or that Katherine was up to some sinister shenanigans, but later revelations sort of debunked those ideas. But there's still stuff going on that's kind of suspicious and/or suspenseful.
Hah, yeah. For me, it's mostly because I'm ironically playing most games of this nature more because of the narrative and characterizations than because of the sex scenes (if all I wanted was the sex, there's an infinite amount of porn on the Internet). So I kind of process the experience more like the way I would playing games like Fallout: New Vegas, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, etc. ie, overthink everything, put myself in the main character's headspace, try to solve every mystery, etc.Another person who overthinks an adult game.
Oh, not going to lie, both of those ideas occurred to me as well.Let's start with your most radical idea. My money would be more on Rachel than the mc. It just makes more sense. But I shall one up you! Ellie!
Yeah, but the news report doesn't happen until later on. I was starting to suspect her before that. When that news report came on, I was just like "Okay, maybe I can't blame you for that, Rachel."
Considering the scene where you find out that she's the one who actually hired you, that she did so in spite of you not being the person most qualified for the job, and she's clearly uncomfortable telling you the real reason why, there's definitely something up with her as well. She's essentially the entire reason why you came back to town at all - so if she's connected to Rachel, Maggy, or Rachel and Maggy together, she'd be key to manipulating you back into the house.The only one I'm not sure how she fits into the greater "family" is Stephanie.
)I'm still not sure unless Rec actively confirms it. If we get a scene where Rachel is like "Hey, remember when you told me I should stop taking the pills? Well I'm much happier now that you're here so I don't need them anymore and I'm not going to take them anymore", then I'll kind of accept the idea that they were just a plot tool.
Yeah, someone running away, disappearing for an extended period of time, and then showing up again completely mute and unwilling to ever explain where they were and what happened to them has connotations. I'm kind of dreading the inevitable revelation.
I'd say Ellie is clearly obsessed with the mc.
Ellie's cute level is off the charts.
Do you try to roleplay as the MC - playing as what you think the MC would do, in the world he / she exists in - or do you imagine yourself as (become) the MC and all that goes with that? I have found since coming here to this site, there is a distinct difference, which I find fascinating.
Especially when it happens shortly after she tells you "I'm totally into her but I know she's not into me" during the motorcycle ride. If she had a way to make Rachel into her, would she be willing to abuse it?
The irony is, Jada is acting like she's the MC of her own AVN. She needs to be reminded who the HBIC actually is. If anyone's going to exploit mind control drugs, it's going to be us!
If Steph and Rachel know each other, Rachel might know that Steph arranged to get you the job in town, bringing you back. Or she could have been the one to encourage Steph to do it in the first place. Or it could just be a coincidence.
If you would read in the actual thread once in a while you'd know that the other game, is simply to keep him sane. I know most people don't understand a thing when it comes to doing the same thing day in day out for 365 days a year burns some people out.
Stop thinking and read what i wrote above...seriously stop.
Funny thing you mention this.
I personaly tend to do both. Just depends on the game which one. 
I'm neither. I usually just try all paths. Or if that becomes tedious, the paths I find most interesting. I also usually play with a walkthrough or reading the source at the same time. Yes, I'm weird.
I rarely self-insert into any games. For games like this one, I'm kind of trying to get into the headspace of the character as presented. For games like Fallout: New Vegas or Skyrim, I tend to craft a backstory in my head for the character that then influences their choices (which increases replayability for those sorts of games - craft a different backstory and you can play through the game again making different choices, or making the same choices again for different reasons, and feel like you're playing through a completely different story). A large part of what I like about well-made narrative games that allow for player choice is the feeling that MY character is experiencing the story differently from how other people see it. Or even from how I saw it the last time I played.
Sounds a lot like how I play - so I guess we're both weird.I'm neither. I usually just try all paths. Or if that becomes tedious, the paths I find most interesting. I also usually play with a walkthrough or reading the source at the same time. Yes, I'm weird.
Since you brought that up again. Another aspect of Ellie is that she is very often underestimated, for example Rachel thinking she is incapable of handling electronics for some reason. She already has a strong will, but MC helping her to let go of her fear will make her a formidable woman I think.
I think it's mentioned in the dialogue with Steph that CJ had his fingers in hiring you. Or a least encourages Steph to engage more with the mc as he knows she is shy and doesn't have time dating and he wants to help her.Especially when it happens shortly after she tells you "I'm totally into her but I know she's not into me" during the motorcycle ride. If she had a way to make Rachel into her, would she be willing to abuse it?
Jada's pretty clearly impulsive (both sexually and otherwise), and openly admits that she doesn't necessarily think things through (the aftermath of the alcohol birthday incident). Which makes it hard to trust what she might be up to.
Even if she's just playing ultimate wingman and trying to encourage Rachel into being more open to sleeping with the MC (since she also asks you if you'd be into Rachel during the motorcycle ride), or doing something more innocent and trying to prompt Rachel into being more accepting of your relationship with Ellie or just letting Jada live there, it's still acting behind your back in ways you might not approve of. So until we figure out what she's up to, or she just never does it again, it's going to be a potential point of paranoia.
The irony is, Jada is acting like she's the MC of her own AVN. She needs to be reminded who the HBIC actually is. If anyone's going to exploit mind control drugs, it's going to be us!
If Steph and Rachel know each other, Rachel might know that Steph arranged to get you the job in town, bringing you back. Or she could have been the one to encourage Steph to do it in the first place. Or it could just be a coincidence.
If Maggy and Rachel are working together, Maggy could easily have told Rachel that you had contacted her and were looking for a place to stay in town. At which point it's possible Rachel eventually encouraged her to sandbag you about apartments so you'd come home, or Maggy took it upon herself to do so because she feels like she's acting in Rachel's best interests. Or it could just be a coincidence.
Regardless, it feels really suspicious that you're barely in town for an hour and you bump into the one person you least want to see in a place you never expected to see them. And then run into her again almost immediately after discovering that you don't have a place to stay and are desperate enough to come home. Sure, Hanna does mention later that Rachel is a regular at the cafe (so it could just be a coincidence), but there could also be a bit of deliberate stalking going on (especially if Rachel is getting updates from Maggy and possibly Steph).
Even if everything is a coincidence and everyone involved are mostly just taking advantage of convenient situations as they happen, it's still hard to shake the feeling that a lot of ulterior motives are helping to shape events (like, it feels like there's at least a possibility that Katherine is only willing to treat Ellie because she's your sister, and it's as close as she can come to interacting with you until you unexpectedly return).
I'm not sure I'd call them addictive, I mean they're medication to suppress her panic attacks, so if she feels a panic attack coming on she would need them to help her with that. I wouldn't call that them being addictive if what she's addicted to is 'not having panic attacks'. Now that we've got so much closer to her though, I do wonder if we'll be trying to help get her off the medicine (like I believe we talked about trying to) by spending time with her and trying to help her calm down without the pills. Of course, the pervert in me wants her to let us stay with her while she takes one, with a coy 'you aren't going to take advantage of me are you? That would be just awful~!'
So why would she not speak again? 
