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crisbr

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Someone has the wallpaper of Claire or Jenni NTR to share with us ; }---------- Please >;<
 

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I was thinking about some ideas for the game and I thought it would be very exciting for claire and mc to go out for dinner and she would come out in a very sexy and exhibitionistic dress without wearing panties and she would be having several dirty thoughts and doing some naughty things and thinking what It will be that the mc is thinking if he is liking that she shows herself to others etc it would be very hot that very much I was even writing a script imagining here
 
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Huh the game is reminding me of Kaos' Comics "Annabelle's New Life" #1. The path of the girls corruption seem to be paced too fast (for me), but then again it's just your starting point and preview/hint of what's to come. The Annabella comics could give you some suggestion on how far you wanna take the girls corruption towards. :rolleyes:
 
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Huh the game is reminding me of Kaos' Comics "Annabelle's New Life" #1. The path of the girls corruption seem to be paced too fast (for me), but then again it's just your starting point and preview/hint of what's to come. The Annabella comics could give you some suggestion on how far you wanna take the girls corruption towards. :rolleyes:
I'll have to check it out! Sounds like a great read lol
 

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Hello everyone, I have added a disclaimer to the original post for this thread. There seemed to be a lot of confusion on whether or not the game will be focused on NTR or Love. Please read it if you are unsure of whether or not you should play the game. It is clear that most followers of the game are here to enjoy a solid NTR focused game. I am here to write a solid NTR/ Cuckhold game if my supporters want that content. That is common sense to me, 81% of my followers have stated they prefer I focus on the Lust path. Therefore, I believe that it is only my responsibility to cater mostly toward the greater popular vote. Again, please read the disclaimer before replying to the thread. Let me know what your thoughts are! I need all the responses I can get before we are too deep into the game. Thank you.
 

Kripke

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...whether or not the game will be focused on NTR or Love. ...
I hope that you keep in mind that general fact that NTR without Love is impossible.

Swinging fits the Lust Path good enough. Sex affairs are treated as fun - no harm, no jealousy, because sex in swinging relations is separated from feelings. Netori (MC cheats on her wife) fits this path ass well.

NTR is opposite. If you forget about it, you’ll not manage to build real NTR setup, just the fake one. To get real NTR feelings MC should be put in a contradictory victim situation, when he really loves her woman, doesn’t want to cheat and to be cheated, but the risk to lose his love turns him on.

It’s a dark kink, Japanese perverts know how to do it right. NTR is when you are feeling hot because you feeling bad.

When you shift the accent to worshiping the beloved woman further, raising her needs much above MC’s ones you’ll get another shade of darkness – cuckoldry. This way demands more dominant woman behavior and more submissive changes in MC. She doesn’t allow MC’s affairs, but feels free to do it by herself. MC accepts it, because he loves his woman and want to praise her. The difference is, that besides jealousy there is another important kink feeling – humiliation.

Anyway, without love it works bad.



Really great start, BTW! The name of your game is a great clue to all itself!
 
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It’s a dark kink, Japanese perverts know how to do it right. NTR is when you are feeling hot because you are feeling bad.
I hate that I feel the need to post this (I've seen it done dozens of times in dozens of forums and maybe twice as many threads), especially since @TheTypist might've posted something demonstrating their knowledge of this already, but:

NTR can mean Netori, Netorase, and Netorare.
Netori: when the POV guy steals someone else's girl. (Oddly, this is also used colloquially when a female POV steals/seduces another woman's man. I think there's already a term for that, but I'm not sure.)
Netorase: when the dude in an established relationship gets off on netorare. This is different from regular netorare specifically because the guy is aroused by someone else fucking their girl, and doing it at least as well as them if not better. Pretty analogous to Western "cuckoldry," and what you were describing as NTR.
Netorare: the most common, possibly original "NTR," in which a woman in a committed relationship is stolen from her man, behind her man's back and definitely against his will, through sexual means. Has also become something of a meme, whose applications are too numerous and too autistic to accurately summarize. The "pain and humiliation" you were talking about with Netorase is amped way the fuck up here.

We've already seen the potential for all three variations of NTR (where someone is always "intruding" on the relationship, so to speak) in the game. The MC might be stolen from Claire by Jenni, Olivia, or characters introduced later on, the MC might be okay with, encourage, or feign ignorance to Claire's infidelities, and the player might have the MC staunchly oppose any such infidelity while pushing Claire towards it--or the reverse, which would be either Netori or reverse-NTR.

I don't know if can expect a Harem Route, but with it's been stated in the OP's spoiler description that Claire will (or could) wind up being okay with/turned on by the MC fucking other girls.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, you might've been describing Netorare --> Netorase, or just regular NTR where the dude being cucked doesn't have the balls to do anything about it--or even look into it, if he doesn't actually have proof yet. Point is: if the guy is gritting his teeth, crying, and sliding closer to the "padded cell" end of the spectrum, it's netorare even if he's furiously beating off. If he's smirking, smiling, or laughing while addressing his woman and the guy fucking her, it's either netorase or a guy who probably never gave a shit in the first place as part of some larger plot fueled by Hentai-Logic™.
 

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I hope that you keep in mind that general fact that NTR without Love is impossible.

Swinging fits the Lust Path good enough. Sex affairs are treated as fun - no harm, no jealousy, because sex in swinging relations is separated from feelings. Netori (MC cheats on her wife) fits this path ass well.

NTR is opposite. If you forget about it, you’ll not manage to build real NTR setup, just the fake one. To get real NTR feelings MC should be put in a contradictory victim situation, when he really loves her woman, doesn’t want to cheat and to be cheated, but the risk to lose his love turns him on.

It’s a dark kink, Japanese perverts know how to do it right. NTR is when you are feeling hot because you feeling bad.

When you shift the accent to worshiping the beloved woman further, raising her needs much above MC’s ones you’ll get another shade of darkness – cuckoldry. This way demands more dominant woman behavior and more submissive changes in MC. She doesn’t allow MC’s affairs, but feels free to do it by herself. MC accepts it, because he loves his woman and want to praise her. The difference is, that besides jealousy there is another important kink feeling – humiliation.

Anyway, without love it works bad.



Really great start, BTW! The name of your game is a great clue to all itself!
I do appreciate the feedback, and I am educated when it comes to most forms of ntr and cuckoldry. I completely agree that the love needs to exist for it to really shine and I will elaborate on that aspect a lot. I’m passionate about it.

I guess what I really mean, is people on the thread and many other threads expect a “romance” route. Literally like “the notebook” type of love story. One man, one woman, serious relationship, no cheating, pure love.

When this was discussed on my patreon, a few of us agreed that one can only go so far with a pure romance novel meant to display porn. The dev would surely run out of ideas. What can you really work up to? Hard bondage and BDSM type of kinks? This was the issue we discussed. One can only go so far when it comes to a pure relationship. I just think after so long it would be dragging.

Take DMD for example. Loved the game, but we’re how far in and the main two characters haven’t fucked? To me, that’s dragging something out. When the game could be finished and he could have moved forward to another one by now.

When opening up to more ideas, such as NTR and so on, the world of porn possibilities become almost endless it seems, and yet I still can’t imagine dragging my games on for so long. It’s a porn game in the end that we make in order to satisfy many folks’ imaginary scenarios we can’t realistically be in.

Of course, I love my girlfriend. Would I ever actually enjoy seeing her in a glory hole with 3 cocks or being fucked by other men while she’s blindfolded, I don’t really think so... but does the thought of such a thing happening turn me on? Damn straight it does.

Anyways, I’m going off on a tangent, I’m sure everyone understands by now. I love having these conversations!
 

AnotherLurker

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Why you do this then? I know perfectly well what netorase is. No need to copy paste obvious definitions.
I addressed The Typist, using his Triade swinging-cuck-ntr.
Because, English competency≠proficiency anon, I have that annoying mental tick where it takes a great force of will for me to ignore people being "wrong" on the internet. That used to be a meme...and kind of still is, I guess:
"If you post a question online, people might not answer it. If you post an answer you know to be wrong, people will probably correct you."
To put it even more simply: I was bored, and had nothing better to do. Try not to take it personally when people attempt to clarify your posts--making sure everyone understands each other is kind of the point of discussion in general.
 

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To the author: if you have planned to make an essentialy NTR game, so be it. Don't you already have a designed plot?

There's public for all tastes. I don't recommend to mitigate it because you'll not please everyone, instead, you'll be losing regarding the plot.
 
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To the author: if you have planned to make an essentialy NTR game, so be it. Don't you already have a designed plot?

There's public for all tastes. I don't recommend to mitigate it because you'll not please everyone, instead, you'll be losing regarding the plot.
Originally I didn’t. That’s me being honest. I look at the screen, I imagine a few people and create a scenario in my head and I begin to type out the first few sentences. Wherever my mind goes, I just type away. When I originally started creating the demo, I had no idea where anything would lead, yet it developed into something I could use, and I released it so others can see what I can make happen.

Each and every scene is honestly written as I go, and I make renders to follow what I typed. I only have ideas as to where I want to go in the future. I make up scenarios and think of how it may go down, but the hardest part is making it make sense and create a smooth transition. I have horrible memory, always have since I was a kid. So I really just type and move forward with whatever story develops in my head, then bring it to life with renders.

You’re totally right with what you said about there being a public for everything, that’s very motivating because for me it sucks to disappoint so many people, but at the same time the few who love it... they REALLY love it haha. And honestly that’s enough for me to move forward. Thank you for your reply
 

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Originally I didn’t. That’s me being honest. I look at the screen, I imagine a few people and create a scenario in my head and I begin to type out the first few sentences. Wherever my mind goes, I just type away. When I originally started creating the demo, I had no idea where anything would lead, yet it developed into something I could use, and I released it so others can see what I can make happen.

Each and every scene is honestly written as I go, and I make renders to follow what I typed. I only have ideas as to where I want to go in the future. I make up scenarios and think of how it may go down, but the hardest part is making it make sense and create a smooth transition. I have horrible memory, always have since I was a kid. So I really just type and move forward with whatever story develops in my head, then bring it to life with renders.

You’re totally right with what you said about there being a public for everything, that’s very motivating because for me it sucks to disappoint so many people, but at the same time the few who love it... they REALLY love it haha. And honestly that’s enough for me to move forward. Thank you for your reply
Well, that's fair enough if it is working for you. Now, that you're "sailing" in those waters, I hope you'll come to develop it till the end. Also, thank you for replying, and best of luck.
 
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I just hope that this wont transform into all other ntr games where wife will start to fuck every single moving object on earth behind husband's back, but i hope a lot of branches will open, like just sharing her with strangers in a threesome, or make her a camwhore, or a prostitute, idk even stuff like doggin/carsex, maybe sharing her with your/her father too?
Its the first time i see a game focused on ntr have literelly endless potential, instead of the classic "girl slowly becomes a slut and cheats 24/7" or plain cuckolding. Thats because of how you put the game togheter, great job man keep it up.
Cant wait to see all the future updates.
 
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Kripke

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... One man, one woman, serious relationship, no cheating, pure love...
We could say that this vanilla type is the most common type of games but… surprisingly it’s not… We’ve got billions of incest and harem game clones instead! Thus, a straight monogamous game of a descent quality would be a great income for f95!

Unfortunately, serious relations simulations mean serious narration work and twice more time to develop.

So if the choice is between unfinished game with a huge amount of routs and a finished game focused on a few but well-made content I always prefer the second one.

As it can be viewed in dozens examples - the less characters you’ve got the deeper psychology you can build.

Anyway, the demo proves that you’ve got a rare combination of taste and skill so don’t ask our opinions, do what you love to, and we surely gonna love it in return!
 
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