Are you viewing Zoey's content, or avoiding it?


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TheTypist

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127 dials, Blender, and Photoshop explains why her DNA is not recognizable. That is beyond my skill level of tweaking sliders in Daz. Learning and understanding what goes into a character teaches some awesome lessons. I have learned a lot about character creation from digging into DUFs from some of the creators here. But Zoey is on a whole different level and very beautiful, by the way! Nice job! Thank you for answering Big Rooster's post and providing some insight!
You can still make such beautiful characters without a ton of external resources, but if you want them to be different so people say "Zoey from Because I Love Her" then it will take some work haha. I can't even count how many times I've seen the Daughter from DMD
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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And indeed, I didn't mean to start up a long discussion or debate on DUF proliferation... originally I just intended it as a brief remark.

I differ from some others because I put more value on the ability to create vs the creation itself. Now obviously, not all creations are equal; and while some are slaved over for hours (as it sounds like our Typist here has), others are just a slipshod assembly of the latest and greatest textures and meshes and boom rendertime.

It always seemed to me that the people most fearful over having their creations ripped off are those least confident in their own ability to generate new creative works. That's not to say the creations themselves don't have value, they do, but it's not like people are painting the mona lisa here, or the 3d modeling equivalent; creating meshes from scratch, hand-weighting vertices, etc.

I believe most of this stems from the pervasive 'parlor' mentality in the AVN sphere, and IMHO is to the utter detriment of game development. Just picture if everytime a project was abandoned, a dev said "I don't want to work on this anymore, I used this and this dufs, if anyone wants to pick up where I left off go nuts." The amount of content (albeit some extremely variable in quality) would triple. As of now, the Apple-computer-walled-garden mentality dominates even through death of projects.

Anyway, just a side discussion, don't mind me, please continue the talk about Zoey and Claire and shenanigans to come in future updates! :p
 

Big Rooster

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Thanks TheTypist for sharing that! And... I still love Dee too!
My favorite game model are Blaire/Claire/Lisa+++, Tyrant's Ann, DMD's Dee, BB's Alexis, and Nat and now Zoey
for me, dipping my toes into the DAZ3D render thing was at first, was just to try to do something creative with my time, after a series of massive strokes almost killed me, and paralyzed my right side. After playing some adult 3D I wondered how the artists did their work, that led me to DAZ... I thought I could learn how to that :LOL:o_O
It is only a guess. Addy assets are hard to work with for me, but their shaping is very unique and appealing. Was dabbling with and liked her textures, but her face wasn't really right without some pretty dramatic morphing (meaning problems), Addy-Lyla face was easier to dial into a close resemblance....
Oh well, being that I like to do "what if" scenarios from the games that I personally like, it serves my purpose. Like in a previous sequence, Zoey persuaded Claire to take her to the pathway that she met Damien on, from the couples challenge game... Or after Claire did the dirty again with Damien, Zoey could clearly hear Claire's sounds of passion emanating throughout the house, making her aroused again so Zoey snuck into the guest room for another round of carnal bliss.
 
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Big Rooster

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To help with the easiest part I can to get you much closer, is Zoey's skin. Zoey took me around 3 months to make going back and forth between different versions of her
This is also original skin, also extremely modified :)
Gwen is dangerous looking :sneaky: Redheads are Fuego but to replicate her is for another time!

If I were to make my own game, it would be centered on the three forms of NTR's. As I like the Stag/Vixen/Bull aspect. But I would use my own characters in it. Not to say I wouldn't be inspired by other's work. The MC would be a very confident, responsibly successful, good-looking, average-endowed guy with a slight penchant for voyeurism and some cuckold thoughts* Daddy Rooster.png with an uber-hot looking wife/gf 04fb64098bf35ceb8e8bfc3c6f06d0ea142022495374699180.jpg ! They have a good life, but it's getting kind of stale, they decide to embark on a trip seeking to spice up their sex life... enter the games people play!!!
*he imagines watching his wife/gf being fucked silly by a bull, the complicated internal conflict, with his emotional torment coupled with his aroused state.
 

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Gwen is dangerous looking :sneaky: Redheads are Fuego but to replicate her is for another time!

If I were to make my own game, it would be centered on the three forms of NTR's. As I like the Stag/Vixen/Bull aspect. But I would use my own characters in it. Not to say I wouldn't be inspired by other's work. The MC would be a very confident, responsibly successful, good-looking, average-endowed guy with a slight penchant for voyeurism and some cuckold thoughts* with an uber-hot looking wife/gf ! They have a good life, but it's getting kind of stale, they decide to embark on a trip seeking to spice up their sex life... enter the games people play!!!
*he imagines watching his wife/gf being fucked silly by a bull, the complicated internal conflict, with his emotional torment coupled with his aroused state.
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Who is that? I like it.

On this game - aside from the previous male npc/bull - diversity stuff I'd mentioned, I really hope he'll develop some sub routes like you're describing. IIRC the first game/version was pretty discrete in that Claire was either pure vanilla or became basically this Blacked(tm) pornstar, I don't remember a lot of in-between, though maybe I'm forgetting stuff.
 

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Forgiving Claire if she cheats and trying to repair the relationship does sound interesting imo
Well yeah, I decided to play the game spoiler free and assume everything that happens since it seems way more fun like this while focusing on sharing content, I just wanted to make sure I could continue on that route and keep things still somewhat lighthearted or if I had to go back and change route completely, but the dev seems to know what they're doing so I'm looking forward to see what happens next :sneaky:.
 
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Ilcoriglianese forte

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I hope not to find myself in the same dynamic as in the first version of the game, where a female demon appears who diverts MFC, because it would really be the ruin of the game, just as I hope that later in the story I can choose to tell Claire to fuck off and seriously do the story with the sister, Claire is inexorably the usual slutty girl of the couple, scenes already seen, but at least here Mc has a better future prospect, Claire's sister, who in my opinion really loves Mc very much than Claire, the slut next door, hahahaha
 

Big Rooster

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I hope not to find myself in the same dynamic as in the first version of the game, where a female demon appears who diverts MFC, because it would really be the ruin of the game, just as I hope that later in the story I can choose to tell Claire to fuck off and seriously do the story with the sister, Claire is inexorably the usual slutty girl of the couple, scenes already seen, but at least here Mc has a better future prospect, Claire's sister, who in my opinion really loves Mc very much than Claire, the slut next door, hahahaha
You are assuming that John doesn't have a penchant for slutty acting girls like Claire. It's really the tease and not the act that drives John crazy with lust and jealousy. Watching Claire and Zoey doing the sex act with Damien, was just the the cherry (specifically Zoey's) on top!
 

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Well, I will be honest. I didn't share my characters mostly because as a creator of NTR content, I imagine my fan art would be predominantly NTR content, and I am aspiring to be a dev that creates all types of content. From love, to sharing, to ntr, to exhibitionism and having my characters associated with 95% NTR creations while I'm trying to branch off feels counter intuitive, at least while I'm trying to grow into a different space.

However, I'm not a gatekeeper and it is quite difficult for so many to make characters just based on staring at a render.
Then you have morphs, lighting, adjusted skin tone settings in the surface tab, adjusted actual skin in photoshop, eyelash utilities, and much, much more.

To help with the easiest part I can to get you much closer, is Zoey's skin. Zoey took me around 3 months to make going back and forth between different versions of her, she is shorter than normal characters, she has over 127 dials used, and most of them I made myself in Blender using the symmetrical sculpt tool, so I can't help you there. That's why all my breast's look relatively similar haha.

Version 1

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Version 2

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Version 3

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So yes, it takes time and it makes sense why some devs don't share. But, I don't mind trying to help a bit while I can.

This is also original skin, also extremely modified :)
Oh, c'mon! NTR devs think "love is synonymous to Blacked"
 

Ilcoriglianese forte

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You are assuming that John doesn't have a penchant for slutty acting girls like Claire. It's really the tease and not the act that drives John crazy with lust and jealousy. Watching Claire and Zoey doing the sex act with Damien, is just the the (Zoey's) cherry on top!


Zoe fucks with Damien only if you as MC decide not to fuck her, Zoe first asks MC what he wants, then it's normal for Zoe to throw herself on Damien at that point, she's super excited, she's been drinking etc. but despite everything, she wants MC there next to her holding her hand, on the contrary Claire has it inside her to be a slut, she demonstrates it right from the start, in the gym with the choice when she says that she only lives with her sister, Zoe on the contrary confides in Mc that she would do anything for him, Zoe does it for MC's love, Claire does it for her own enjoyment, I think that on the feelings situation, Zoe is much more in love than her sister, then it is normal as always to have in this type of game a moron Mc who invites the usual BBC with horse cock to fuck his women, what a moron, these are not fetishes, these are just mentally ill people, being an open couple, sharing etc. it has nothing to do with this game, here as always the thing is developed with a well-tested standard, MC equals an idiot, his woman equals a slut, and the usual BBC with 30 cm of cock, tell me how many we have already played these games only in the last 6 months, all made in the same way, but I hope some of the devs have the balls to make the game more game, where an MC is not for heaven's sake a shitty and nerdy moron, since a nerd being with a pussy is bullshit, but even a nerd who, having a beautiful woman, lets others fuck her is even more ridiculous, enough with the argument that it's the MCs that are like that, it's the devs who create them but who they create amazing sluts.
 

Ilcoriglianese forte

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Oh, c'mon! NTR devs think "love is synonymous to Blacked"



You're great, I agree, all the devs who write about NTR are very ignorant about the real world they describe, and only know how to use the usual BBC with horse dick, now all games like this are copy and paste, idiot MC, the slutty woman, and the BBC with 30 cm of cock who can fuck for 24 hours continuously, not even a box of viagra would be able to do it, hahahahha
 

Big Rooster

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I was optimistic in the beginning about John's personality, I hope The Typist writes him more assertively acting in the future, I've seen a lot of Beta-Cucks games on this forum, and it would be a disservice that he would be written that way too.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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Zoe fucks with Damien only if you as MC decide not to fuck her, Zoe first asks MC what he wants, then it's normal for Zoe to throw herself on Damien at that point, she's super excited, she's been drinking etc. but despite everything, she wants MC there next to her holding her hand, on the contrary Claire has it inside her to be a slut, she demonstrates it right from the start, in the gym with the choice when she says that she only lives with her sister, Zoe on the contrary confides in Mc that she would do anything for him, Zoe does it for MC's love, Claire does it for her own enjoyment, I think that on the feelings situation, Zoe is much more in love than her sister, then it is normal as always to have in this type of game a moron Mc who invites the usual BBC with horse cock to fuck his women, what a moron, these are not fetishes, these are just mentally ill people, being an open couple, sharing etc. it has nothing to do with this game, here as always the thing is developed with a well-tested standard, MC equals an idiot, his woman equals a slut, and the usual BBC with 30 cm of cock, tell me how many we have already played these games only in the last 6 months, all made in the same way, but I hope some of the devs have the balls to make the game more game, where an MC is not for heaven's sake a shitty and nerdy moron, since a nerd being with a pussy is bullshit, but even a nerd who, having a beautiful woman, lets others fuck her is even more ridiculous, enough with the argument that it's the MCs that are like that, it's the devs who create them but who they create amazing sluts.
I usually disagree with forte, but I think he's quite right about Zoey.

Whether intentional or not, her behavior during the whole night event provided a sharp contrast with Claire, and really put Claire's typical behavior in a new light. Throughout the event, Zoey acts like your girlfriend whereas Claire just acts like a party girl (barring the ending with Claire and mc in bed). <--- Though having said that, it would have felt entirely appropriate and canon to have Zoey spend the night with you and Claire spend the night with Damien.

Of course for all I know, this could be by design and Typist is putting out a tasting bite to see indirectly if players prefer a more gentle, consensual approach, or a harder ntr approach.
I was optimistic in the beginning about John's personality, I hope The Typist writes him more assertively acting in the future, I've seen a lot of Beta-Cucks games on this forum, and it would be a disservice that he would be written that way too.
Agreed, and throughout the Version 2 he seemed to be more even-keeled and active than I remember from the original.

I know I sound like a broken record on opposing the IR themes; but this is another area that often goes hand in hand with them. Obviously, skin color doesn't dictate the dynamics of the relationship between mc, gf, and other male, having said that, I think it's MUCH more difficult to write an "egalitarian sharing story" (whatever that means :LOL:) in those setups, and they trend towards the mc 'beta-cuck' stereotype appropriately, just as the other male appropriately exists as a stereotype. I hope that makes sense.
 
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Big Rooster

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I usually disagree with forte, but I think he's quite right about Zoey.

Whether intentional or not, her behavior during the whole night event provided a sharp contrast with Claire, and really put Claire's typical behavior in a new light. Throughout the event, Zoey acts like your girlfriend whereas Claire just acts like a party girl (barring the ending with Claire and mc in bed). <--- Though having said that, it would have felt entirely appropriate and canon to have Zoey spend the night with you and Claire spend the night with Damien.*

Of course for all I know, this could be by design and Typist is putting out a tasting bite to see indirectly if players prefer a more gentle, consensual approach, or a harder ntr approach.

Agreed, and throughout the Version 2 he seemed to be more even-keeled and active than I remember from the original.

I know I sound like a broken record on opposing the IR themes; but this is another area that often goes hand in hand with them. Obviously, skin color doesn't dictate the dynamics of the relationship between mc, gf, and other male, having said that, I think it's MUCH more difficult to write an "egalitarian sharing story" (whatever that means :LOL:) in those setups, and they trend towards the mc 'beta-cuck' stereotype appropriately, just as the other male appropriately exists as a stereotype. I hope that makes sense.
*Or both of the sisters end up in the same bed (either John's or Damien's) :cool:
IMHO
Claire and John (as far I can tell) were both virgin lovers, and AFIK they are the only lovers that either one has had.
I don't know many people, male or female, that don't wonder about what sex would be like with a person that they are smitten with.
Interracial sex, though common nowadays, was in the past a very taboo relationship that raised eyebrows at the least and might get you killed at the other extreme.
Black men, have a reputation of being powerful lovers with bigger genitalia. It's not really a fact, but the BBC stereotype is titillating for some of both men and women. This is not a new thing, people being tribal and all that.
It all gets down to sex being felt as quite risky and the excitement that these factors can elevate the intensity of the moment.
 
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Sorry if it was obvious, but I'm a bit slow.
Is the V 1.0 the complete game, and the new Ep 1 Part 1 is a remake of it to allow for NTR to be avoidable?
 
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