VN Ren'Py Completed Become a Rock Star [v1.01] [Mr Jet]

[mugizib]

Since when do you need to be a dev to have read thousands of books, have reading comprehension and some knowledge of building and setting up a story, how relations work and posess other skills that you have used in your working career for over 30 years? That is the same as the movie producer that was blaming the fans that they did not get the movie cause they had not directed movies, instead of blaming himself for not communicating correctly in his movie.

Did you understand my question?

 

[Gh0st_Harambe]

Well there where other ways.

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Then this was a better ending for her if this is her end.

For now we do not know if she is gonna die, I do not lose hope that nothing serious happens to her, we will have to wait until the next update to find out.

 

[DA22]

Did you understand my question?

Yes and it is a nonsense question.

It implies that only someone that does something can have an opinion about it and I am not making games since I do know my limitations and interests. Now I do know nothing about technical side of rendering so you will not see me make any remarks about how good or how shitty renders are technically, but can give an opinion if renders or animations work for me in a game. Same that I can know I have run into a bug without being a coder myself.

I do have some skills in reading comprehension though and read loads of both good and bad stories over time giving me an appreciation for what is and what is not good and if a story and how chars react within it make sense within context of a story, learned a bit of what are do's and dont's in certain genres and how people react to them, had some education in what is literature and what are cheap gimmicks and lived through shit so do have a clue how relations work and how they do not work if want to be realistic.

 

[moskyx]

i still dont see that part mc could still screw the father back since he was in his face from the start. and then he was suddenly sick.. normally relationships are well beyond repair from this point and no sickness or dramatic events will suddenly make them all get along like nothing happend.

Before this event, I would have bet that the main choice remaining for MC would be to go on with his rock band (with more or less success depending on his choices regarding Lisa), or to quit (for Jane's or Selina's route) while things between him and his father were slowly being repaired either because the band make it big or because MC returns to family business (willingly or not). Bridges were being built but now they're almost burned up. As I see it, now the father (and the older brother) will hate MC forever and MC will feel responsible of her sister's fate, thus leading him to choose between his dream career or taking up her sister's business, all while trying to placate his father or just go to war against him. This situation fuels up a plot line that was apparently almost solved, adding some drama and interest for the final chapters.

That said, let's make clear that I don't especially like the way this event was written.

 

[Ragnar]

Well, my MC is kind of a fuckboi so I 'd guess there is plenty of drama in his future.



Unexpected harm/death of liked characters doesn't automatically equal good writing. I know a whole generation was taught that by recent popular fiction like GoT but I wouldn't call that the pinnacle of storytelling. Shock value is just the easy way.

I still think this game is way above average in terms of writing, especially for porn game standards. But this recent sequence wasn't its brightest moment. The final moment was telegraphed and there were plenty of chances to avoid it if characters acted with common sense and/or in-character. The railroading leaves a sour taste.

You can kill the entire cast of incest game nº1.200.458 and nobody will complain because the plot/story is non existant.
If players react to something bad happening to one of your characters is because they care, they care about your fictional character life.

To further my point, Acting Lessons killed a main character and that caused a strong reaction, here a secondary character has been harmed and some people feel bad about it. You care because they're good characters and the story isn't bad either.

As for characters acting out of character, I don't know about which ones are you talking about, the MC and Jacob are no strangers to street brawls, they fought some assholes in the Naked Park concert. The guys from the other band have been asking for it since the beginning.

 

[mugizib]

Yes and it is a nonsense question.

It implies that only someone that does something can have an opinion about it and I am not making games since I do know my limitations and interests. Now I do know nothing about technical side of rendering so you will not see me make any remarks about how good or how shitty renders are technically, but can give an opinion if renders or animations work for me in a game. Same that I can know I have run into a bug without being a coder myself.

I do have some skills in reading comprehension though and read loads of both good and bad stories over time giving me an appreciation for what is and what is not good and if a story and how chars react within it make sense within context of a story, learned a bit of what are do's and dont's in certain genres and how people react to them, had some education in what is literature and what are cheap gimmicks and lived through shit so do have a clue how relations work and how they do not work if want to be realistic.

See how "you know better"? I asked you a simple question and you answered something else instead of what I asked because you inferred other things.

You say that the Devs should easily do this or that but those are just opinions based on what you consider to be right, wrong or cheap. But they are not facts as you present them. They are just your way of looking at things. And others certainly have completely different ideas about it.

If you said "in my opinion" it might not sound so pretentious.

In the end, you just use your so-called skills to bash the Devs.

 

[SpikeZg]

Any new Emma content aka the best girl?

 

[Rythan25]

Well thats one way of shutting up the people who kept begging for content with that character... that said the next update will be a make it or break it for me, to see if I pull support from this game or not...

The game takes 2-4 months to update, the crew finally caught a break, and then this shit happened... Whether there is life or death doesnt matter much to me, its the fact that the card got "lost" and the gang wont get to start working towards their goal anyways that bothers me.

If someone does find the card, and just puts the career on hold to deal with the family emergency, that I would be ok... thats why next update is crucial on which direction is going to go... The world is a shithole as is... I dont need drama in my escapism..

 

[GrammerCop]

Wow that came out of left field. This game needs a new tag - [Graphic violence]

 

[DA22]

See how "you know better"? I asked you a simple question and you answered something else instead of what I asked because you inferred other things.

You say that the Devs should easily do this or that but those are just opinions based on what you consider to be right, wrong or cheap. But they are not facts as you present them. They are just your way of looking at things. And others certainly have completely different ideas about it.

If you said "in my opinion" it might not sound so pretentious.

In the end, you just use your so-called skills to bash the Devs.

If you are unaware that having a character shot and put that in as a cliffhanger is one of the oldest cheap tricks in the business to generate feels and commotion also in tv series or serialized comics or even already in the old serialized newspaper stories for over 100 years, then I am so sorry i did not say in my opinion.

 

[mugizib]

If you are unaware that having a character shot and put that in as a cliffhanger is one of the oldest cheap tricks in the business to generate feels and commotion also in tv series or serialized comics or even already in the old serialized newspaper stories for over 100 years, then I am so sorry i did not say in my opinion.

Like I said, you must use your skills for something better than bashing the Devs.

 

[DA22]

Like I said, you must use your skills for something better than bashing the Devs.

I rarely bash devs, unless there is a reason for it. Same i did not say this dev made a bad story, did not say that the sex MC has is unreasonable considering the setup. I did say though that in my opinion this was cheap drama just for the feels and that this game already has loads of drama and there was no need for this cheap overused trick. Now I did say in the past that dev in my opinion was himself guilty about all the incest discussion about Julia, you do not sexualise a sister in an adult game plus have MC and sister show sexual interest in eachother as with that peek scene and not expect those questions. That is just naive at best.

Now a better reader might even infer from that that I think this dev can do better and has done better in past so this is a disappointment to me that he took the cheap shot. You are allowed to think different.

 

[Alexs3xy01]

My mood drops at the end instantly. At first, I think Jacob is a kind of side character now he's my best boi.

 

[barbatoscloud]

Rip incest team. Too much love Will kill you like Queen song

 

[Cris123]

Is there a chance for mac version?

 

[Xian Pu]

Version 0.70 in Mac, please!

 

[Sngo]

I just hope that Julia being shot is a plot to make her see she didn't live that much as she said in terms of having so much that she didn't do and have an epiphany realising that she loves her brother and then mc have the same epiphany that he loves is sister in a romantic way and we can add incest tag to this game , otherwise its a cheap trick, I had the feeling when that creep found the gun that shit was going to happen but shooting Julia really? Just to make that card be lost pausing their possible ascension and create some weird drama, if you want someone to be shot should be is dad.
This update felt kinda short and exception to the morning with Nicole wasn't that good, was hoping for something better because I really like this game, nice story and so freaking hot females but this update left so much to desire.

 

[moskyx]

I just hope that Julia being shot is a plot to make her see she didn't live that much as she said in terms of having so much that she didn't do and have an epiphany realising that she loves her brother and then mc have the same epiphany that he loves is sister in a romantic way and we can add incest tag to this game , otherwise its a cheap trick

I do really hope you're being sarcastic here. Wouldn't THAT be an even cheaper trick even for your underaverage incest game (which BARS is not)?

 

[SerHawkes]

I just hope that Julia being shot is a plot to make her see she didn't live that much as she said in terms of having so much that she didn't do and have an epiphany realising that she loves her brother and then mc have the same epiphany that he loves is sister in a romantic way and we can add incest tag to this game , otherwise its a cheap trick, I had the feeling when that creep found the gun that shit was going to happen but shooting Julia really? Just to make that card be lost pausing their possible ascension and create some weird drama, if you want someone to be shot should be is dad.
This update felt kinda short and exception to the morning with Nicole wasn't that good, was hoping for something better because I really like this game, nice story and so freaking hot females but this update left so much to desire.

Eh, agree to disagree. It's more unlikely that there will be Incest in the game, consider we already have more than a whore a plenty with the ladies here.

Personally I think/hope that Julia survives this with comfort of our band being their to support and our love interest(s). Considering that Minxy Red will be working at the hospital, she will probably give us comfort in more ways than one.

Agree that the update did kind feel short, though Nicole was napalm. Wooof.

 

[Avaron1974]

I just hope that Julia being shot is a plot to make her see she didn't live that much as she said in terms of having so much that she didn't do and have an epiphany realising that she loves her brother and then mc have the same epiphany that he loves is sister in a romantic way and we can add incest tag to this game

Look, there isn't going to be any incest, dev has made that clear.