mizilic

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Can someone make a cheat mod where we can see all the endings, independent of what choices we have chosen before?

There are multiple possible endings as we can see in the WT and the respective images are there! But in order to get any of these endings we must play the game from the beginning again and again for each of these endings and chose different options at different times.. Playing a game like this should NOT be "rocket science", but if you want to see the whole content and all endings, then IT IS!

I went for all girls the whole time but in the previous version i was forced to give up the best of them with all those killer meetings in the hospital. So i got now an end with Lisa and Jade after a "good bye" sex scene with Emma. I don't complain about this end, it's a nice one, but .. i want to see also the others!

Is there a guru out there who can help? Maybe add a menu somewhere before the "Li mass murder" in the hospital, where we can chose between end with this or with that or .. with this AND that girl? In the image folder i can see endings with the band PLUS either Jane or Anna. That would be nice to see and also to see HOW we got there..

If you don't have it already this WT could help:
 
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rj677

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Well, its been a month since this game was updated. I have been following this game since v0.60 (i think) and I was excited to finally play a new update. A lot of that excitement came from the fact that v0.80 was one of the best updates I ever experienced on an AVN.

With this being said, v0.90, in my opinion, was a let down :(... I know that a lot of die hard fans of this game might not agree with my opinions, so keep in mind that this is only my opinion.

This dev since the beginning has built many different LIs and Side-girls that we all like. Each of them built with their own personalities and likes, with their own hobbies and kinks, making them unique in their own ways. So unique in fact, that I cant really choose between Selina, Jane and Hana (but I think Im leaning more towards Selina :love:)

So, imagine my disappointment when not only their almost not in the episode at all, but when they do appear they say the EXACT same things and act the EXACT same way (just Jane has 1 different line of text because of Jacob). Hell, the only difference are in their "best-friends" in the band :confused:. Jane, for example, as the confident woman she is she woudnt be worried about meeting the band, she would make them like her if she had to... Maybe I overlooked something in the game and they actually arent that different :unsure:...

Then the situation with the Side-girls... I know Emma was the MCs Ex and that she wasnt trustworthy in the beginning, but she went through a whole redemption arc...and her not having an ending with the MC just tells me that the plan is to leave the MC alone if he doesnt end up with any of the main LIs... Emma and Nicole (who I presume will end up the same way) deserved endings for people who fucked up with the others or to people who liked them better...

And finally, a sister, who seemingly doesnt like the MC and that is exactly what they need to close the label deal comes out of nowhere... I liked the signing with label and the interactions with a senior band, but that just seemed kinda filler

TheRedhead MILFs scene was good, hot and a good goodbye for those characters that wouldnt end up with the MC. The Jacob park scene was also wholesome and needed, but both these scenes were not enough to save the episode unfortunately...

Concluding, we waited 5 months and 6 days for little and pointless "equal to all" LI content (which was the main problem), filler content and Side-Girls :(. In my opinion, I just think that the ratio between [Time used:Content] was really negative in v0.9... This update could have been all right after every other update... but after v0.8 it just seemed so inferior that it just disappointed me. Lets hope the next one is better :sneaky:
 
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MrJay

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I've mentioned this in other projects but I'm going to mention it here too. Any game like this where there is any exclusivity of content, that is choosing one girl over others or having "consequences" for trying to be involved with several girls at once, is simply doing it wrong. The OVERWHELMING number of players aren't interested in making those choices, they just want all the lewd content. If I can't get all the content in a single save file, in a single playthrough, why should I bother? It just becomes a chore playing the game at that point, replaying it just to get missed content. It's literally just wasting my time. It's frankly insulting to think I have that kind of time to waste on a single game on this site when there are many hundreds of titles on here of similar or higher quality that just doesn't waste my time in that way. And before anyone says it, no, it doesn't make for an interesting or engaging story. It's incredibly contrived and forced to have all those women just happen to show up at the exact same place just to "catch" you. I'm hugely disappointed in what was otherwise a promising game.
 

Darkwen

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I've mentioned this in other projects but I'm going to mention it here too. Any game like this where there is any exclusivity of content, that is choosing one girl over others or having "consequences" for trying to be involved with several girls at once, is simply doing it wrong. The OVERWHELMING number of players aren't interested in making those choices, they just want all the lewd content. If I can't get all the content in a single save file, in a single playthrough, why should I bother? It just becomes a chore playing the game at that point, replaying it just to get missed content. It's literally just wasting my time. It's frankly insulting to think I have that kind of time to waste on a single game on this site when there are many hundreds of titles on here of similar or higher quality that just doesn't waste my time in that way. And before anyone says it, no, it doesn't make for an interesting or engaging story. It's incredibly contrived and forced to have all those women just happen to show up at the exact same place just to "catch" you. I'm hugely disappointed in what was otherwise a promising game.
I will start by staying like what you want to like and dislike what want to dislike. But in this case the fact that you are lazy is no excuse. Sure I get not having lot of time however you just want everything on one play-through which doesn't have anything to do with time. You said the overwhelming number of players here don't want to chose between one girl which yeah can be hard but this game never was a harem game was never promise to be and BTW most of the best games here make chose between one girl. That being said the dev gives you time to date other girls before it bites you in the ass so. I do have one question why is it contrived and forced to have the MC LI show up near the same time when your sister gets shot? I guess it crazy they would care what is wrong with these people its nothing major she just almost die, some people. I will finish by staying you don't have a leg to stand on when you bitch about the game wasting your time and how you don't have the time for it yet your here telling us about it :rolleyes:
 
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noone is forcing you to play the game dude, if you dont like games like this having exclusive relationships & having concequences for sleeping around with multiple girls, thats fine but it is how the developer chose to make it. Personaly i think it offers a more wholesome experience & adds to the suspense if they find out somwhere in the story if youve been hiding being with somone else, i tried that with Serena & anna which totaly blew up in my face, haha.
 

mr.AwesomeGameTaste

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I've mentioned this in other projects but I'm going to mention it here too. Any game like this where there is any exclusivity of content, that is choosing one girl over others or having "consequences" for trying to be involved with several girls at once, is simply doing it wrong. The OVERWHELMING number of players aren't interested in making those choices, they just want all the lewd content. If I can't get all the content in a single save file, in a single playthrough, why should I bother? It just becomes a chore playing the game at that point, replaying it just to get missed content. It's literally just wasting my time. It's frankly insulting to think I have that kind of time to waste on a single game on this site when there are many hundreds of titles on here of similar or higher quality that just doesn't waste my time in that way. And before anyone says it, no, it doesn't make for an interesting or engaging story. It's incredibly contrived and forced to have all those women just happen to show up at the exact same place just to "catch" you. I'm hugely disappointed in what was otherwise a promising game.
I don't know about the OVERWHELMING number of players,cause games like BARS are very popular,as we can all clearly see. It was never meant to be a harem,that's how the dev wanted to tell this story,and I don't think he took into consideration whether or not you have the time to play all the routes,you have gallery unlocker mod to get all the scenes btw. And no,it's not forced that the 2 of your girlfriends would meet you in the hospital after your sister got shot,one of said gf's being a worker there too,or that your gf outside of the band would want to meet the members of your band.
 

MrJay

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I don't know about the OVERWHELMING number of players,cause games like BARS are very popular,as we can all clearly see. It was never meant to be a harem,that's how the dev wanted to tell this story,and I don't think he took into consideration whether or not you have the time to play all the routes,you have gallery unlocker mod to get all the scenes btw. And no,it's not forced that the 2 of your girlfriends would meet you in the hospital after your sister got shot,one of said gf's being a worker there too,or that your gf outside of the band would want to meet the members of your band.
No one has argued for it being a harem game, only someone with non-existent imagination thinks having all the content in a single playthrough means a game is a harem game, especially when there are many games on this site that disprove that notion.

And yes, hospitals are huge places, the idea that they would have to stumble upon each other is absolutely a contrived plot device and not at all necessary.

In the end it only negatively affects the plot. It's not interesting or compelling in any way to have the girls catch the MC. Imagine a porn game that punishes you for wanting more porn content, because that's exactly what's happening here. It's like some of you people lose all your discernment just because the game has the slightest bit of quality, you'll concede to any bad design decisions just because a game has good renders.

No, I am following over 150 games on this site so I have no patience for time-wasting bullshit like forcing the player to keep multiple save files, so I will call it out whenever I come across it. You all can do however you like but hopefully you realize you don't have to put up with pointless chores like that and that your time is better valued by other game designers, and in so doing teach all game designers here to not waste any of our time with pointless nothing.
 

mr.AwesomeGameTaste

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No one has argued for it being a harem game, only someone with non-existent imagination thinks having all the content in a single playthrough means a game is a harem game, especially when there are many games on this site that disprove that notion.

And yes, hospitals are huge places, the idea that they would have to stumble upon each other is absolutely a contrived plot device and not at all necessary.

In the end it only negatively affects the plot. It's not interesting or compelling in any way to have the girls catch the MC. Imagine a porn game that punishes you for wanting more porn content, because that's exactly what's happening here. It's like some of you people lose all your discernment just because the game has the slightest bit of quality, you'll concede to any bad design decisions just because a game has good renders.

No, I am following over 150 games on this site so I have no patience for time-wasting bullshit like forcing the player to keep multiple save files, so I will call it out whenever I come across it. You all can do however you like but hopefully you realize you don't have to put up with pointless chores like that and that your time is better valued by other game designers, and in so doing teach all game designers here to not waste any of our time with pointless nothing.
Nah man. It's not a design flaw, it' s something you don't like.I like it and many others do too, I don't play it for the porn, I'd much rather watch normal porn if that was my goal.If this why you play them, well, you said so yourself, there are many others that fits your needs better, but stating that this is objectivly a design flaw and that the story is less interesting cause of It, well that's Just not True, quite the opposite really, at least for a significant amount of People.
 

Pains7914

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I've mentioned this in other projects but I'm going to mention it here too. Any game like this where there is any exclusivity of content, that is choosing one girl over others or having "consequences" for trying to be involved with several girls at once, is simply doing it wrong. The OVERWHELMING number of players aren't interested in making those choices, they just want all the lewd content. If I can't get all the content in a single save file, in a single playthrough, why should I bother? It just becomes a chore playing the game at that point, replaying it just to get missed content. It's literally just wasting my time. It's frankly insulting to think I have that kind of time to waste on a single game on this site when there are many hundreds of titles on here of similar or higher quality that just doesn't waste my time in that way. And before anyone says it, no, it doesn't make for an interesting or engaging story. It's incredibly contrived and forced to have all those women just happen to show up at the exact same place just to "catch" you. I'm hugely disappointed in what was otherwise a promising game.
I must say then that I really enjoy the whole "Romantic" part of getting to know really well written characters like there are in some games.
Deciding who you like the most and start to date her and then build a relationship with her.
For me that becomes one of the most important part of the best games, when they get to the part where they sometimes feel like "life simulators" .
I mean, the girls in a few games are so much better written then any book, normal game or movie I've ever seen and I was stunned the first time .

But yeah, it's good still if you can do like many do in the first playthrough of being a Dik for example and enjoy every girl you can that playthrough.
And then for the next you do a fully faithful playthrough with the girl you felt the most for from your first playthrough. .

Then we have games on the complete other side of the scale ofc. Even though my example is quite good, in the VN "Wvm" you are encouraged by your girlfriend to date as many girls as you can (as long as they deserve you). But it actually felt silly at the end of the update with the number of relationships and budding relationships.. lol.
 

cxx

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Hey guys, this is my first playthrough of 4he game. So far I think it's incredible . Right up in the top along with Being a DIK, Melody, Acting Lessons and Leap of Faith! . So if i compare all other VN's to these 5 games they will all come up short unfortunately.
But tell me, is there any other games on pair with these 5 games? (Hopeful)
ask on recommendations, mods don't look kindly advertising other devs games on not-their-threads.
 

shivz889

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hey guys i had a question, is there any way to avoid being kicked out by rosa and Catherine after the threesome scene? or is that bound to happen either way? also what do you think about it. i really don't want it to be over with rosa she is probably the hottest girl
 

Darkdevil66

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hey guys i had a question, is there any way to avoid being kicked out by rosa and Catherine after the threesome scene? or is that bound to happen either way? also what do you think about it. i really don't want it to be over with rosa she is probably the hottest girl
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But there won't be more content with them, just like Emma they're just side girls. They won't have ending or additional content in the finale update (unless MrJet changes his mind).
 

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But there won't be more content with them, just like Emma they're just side girls. They won't have ending or additional content in the finale update (unless MrJet changes his mind).
but I dont get how is it possible to not cheat on selina, especially when we are not dating rosa is the one who makes us cheat. also is the nest update the final update for the game ?
 

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Hey guys! Sorry that I've been doing so few posts lately, but there really isn't much news. As usual, at the beginning of each update, I first did the planning of the update structure (since the update is final, it took a little longer than usual), and now I'm working on the content. Renders, text, scene creation, etc. As for the numbers, I currently have 160 renders ready.

I've been thinking about it for a long time, and decided to add a little wrap-up event with Nicole. It fit in with the main story pretty well, so I'm pretty happy with it.
I should also warn you that due to certain circumstances in my personal life, I won't be available all next week. I also won't have access to my PC, so I won't be able to work on the game. Well, actually, I'll have my laptop, but I'll be able to work with it only on the text. However, I promise you that right after that I'll get to work with double the effort. I hope for your understanding.

That's all I wanted to tell you right now. Thank you for your support and have a great week!

MrJet
 

GetOutOfMyLab

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I'm totally ok with the concept of being faithful to one girl and not being in a harem situation. In fact, I kind of find the harem thing exhausting, just as I imagine it would be in real life. The thing that got me was how it was worded. When I agreed to be interested in something serious with these girls, to me it meant that we were still not in a full-on relationship, but still dating. That kind of threw me off.

So here are my thoughts. I've done two play-throughs, one being fully into it and the second loading an early save and picking one girl.

1. I like the story. It's well-written and thought out.

2. A little too much dialogue for my tastes. There was a lot of clicking involved and I eventually just skimmed a majority of it because I was able to get the gist of the situation and there was nothing critical or needed in those parts. It' s a bit of a pet peeve for me to have so much talking, but I'm sure there are people who like this aspect.

3. The character development was quite good (despite what I mentioned in #2 about too much talking).

4. Some of the most beautiful character models I've seen in a game. I'm not into blondes, but I'll echo what someone said earlier about Emma probably being the most beautiful. I'm into redheads, and so Selina was also incredibly gorgeous to me. The brunettes are hot, too.

Overall, I think it's a really good game and am looking forward to future updates.
 
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