The Glorious LIME

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In addition, Zoey was just introduced into the game, so why rush to choose a girlfriend?
The way I see it: Zoey was delayed by DPC for added drama.
Just as you pick a GF, here comes a girl that not only towers above some LI's(let alone Maya), but most of the male characters too. Since lets face it, most of the boys are pussies. Even Vinny, pulls a gun the moment he's threatened.

Also, I remember you. Loved your review :KEK:
 

dalli_x

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I'll just say, seeing Maya develop this support network is, for me, one of the best things in this game. She's forming bonds with people who are kind, caring, compassionate, and who value her and care for her, something which she has probably been lacking all, if not most of, her life, and she will be so much better off for it in the long run to have all these people around her.

Maya's development overall is, for me, a highlight of this game, particularly in the last 2 episodes. She's really coming out of her shell and it's wonderful to see.
True words.(y)
 

Geralt From Rivia

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As someone who has stanned Maya for quite some time, I can understand why people just stop engaging with Maya hate/memeing/trolling because it's exhausting. Not because of the constant defense of her, but because it's the same old tired bullshit all the time from these people. Maya is like a wounded puppy that people are throwing shit at, and it's tiresome having to deal with people who so often show a complete lack of understanding, compassion, and empathy for her character. It's enough to completely destroy any shred of faith you might have in humanity to see people who seemingly have none.
The Internet is a dark place full of horrors, compassion is a rare guest here. I spoke in her defense a little earlier, but now I'm losing interest in her, her plot drama has dragged on too long.
 

DanMotta

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Maya also considered the possibility of cheating on some of the tasks, it's just that with Josy, that became easier to do because they worked together.

I think people really underestimate the position she was in and what people will do when really desperate. Maya was alone and determined to do this by herself, come hell or high water. Getting into the HOTs was the only shot she saw at potentially freeing herself from Patrick's influence. I bet if you reversed the roles and it was Josy who was all alone here, feeling a great amount of pressure and desperation too, she would have also done it.

People can debate, and bitch, and moan all they want about that first task, but later on, Maya becomes more willing to do things with the MC because she's developing feelings for him and so when we get to the task at the end of Ep 3, Maya isn't breaching any sort of "morals" or "principles" because she's willing to do this with a guy she likes and she also feels as though things are over for her and Josy.

Maya also did have her "wake up" moment in Ep 6, and she does do things for herself, that's pretty much what she did throughout S1. She also knew that the tuition/scholarship she may have gotten from Burke would require that she put in the work to earn it and she was more than prepared to do so.



As someone who has stanned Maya for quite some time, I can understand why people just stop engaging with Maya hate/memeing/trolling because it's exhausting. Not because of the constant defense of her, but because it's the same old tired bullshit all the time from these people. Maya is like a wounded puppy that people are throwing shit at, and it's tiresome having to deal with people who so often show a complete lack of understanding, compassion, and empathy for her character. It's enough to completely destroy any shred of faith you might have in humanity to see people who seemingly have none.
Maya has been Selfish many times. She often victimizes herself. There are a lot of maya personality that I observe and I don't like than just the problems she deals with. And things that I also don't discuss anymore because it is pointless.

Some people will like girls like her and others won't. We are both in opposite sides of this matter.

And I know wounded puppies, I've had people in my life just like her, that you would spend a lot of energy trying to help, sometimes giving them a direction that you would be there to support, but they wouldn't take it and that would drain the life out of you. SO what you may call not having empathy, I call not wasting time with lost causes. But ofc, DPC can decide to rewrite her in a totally different way from now on and who knows if when that happens I won't make a new route and become her white knight.
 

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The Internet is a dark place full of horrors, compassion is a rare guest here. I spoke in her defense a little earlier, but now I'm losing interest in her, her plot drama has dragged on too long.
Oh, I want it to end too, brother. I had such high hopes for Ep 9. But the thing is, despite this being an issue for Maya, DPC does a fabulous job of not really dwelling on it. Yes, it gets brought up a few times when required in the story, but he's given us so many wonderful, happy, sweet, warm, and sexy moments with both Maya and Josy that when playing, you kind of forget what's going on because you're just focusing on them. Or at least, that's how I feel.

There are so many happy memories being made for the 3 of them on the throuple route and I honestly think this relationship is giving Maya so much more strength and belief than if they're not in this relationship. I love these girls so much for their characters as well as their gorgeous bodies and I just connect so much with Maya on a personal level being someone who is also an introvert and has had personal problems in their life that seemed insurmountable.

I know that eventually these problems will resolve, but for now, I'm greatly enjoying the relationship with these 3 and all the happy moments they get to spend with each other just make the other issues melt away from my thoughts, allowing for that enjoyment to take hold.
 

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Hi guys, can anyone please tell how i can end season 2 together with Jill after i did every step or way to be with her, i help'd her with musical and everythin else before and know when i most make a choice at DIK when i talk with Elena, on me appear only mod both, Sage or others, Jill name not appear, why? I most change affinity from DIK to neutral or? Help me pls, thanks
I see, nobody wanna help me.
Hello,

Besides what Impurity2937 told you here...
Probably you didn't go to picnic, instead you helped ill Sage right?

I recall reading that Jill's branch is off-limits to DIK MCs. So your best bet is playing a neutral or, even better, a chick MC with her. In my Jill playthrough I went for chick affinity all the way.
 

dalli_x

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Even Josy wouldn't do most of things Quinn would tell them to, reason why when Josy appeared, most of the tasks where done by cheating.
They didn't really go through with most of things, because Josy found ways to fake it/cheat.
If people are taking advantage of you and you don't wake up and stand up for yourself, it is not always that you gonna find people to help you out.
You may even find help once or twice, but if they realize you don't do much for yourself, they won't keep doing things to help you either. And that is Maya's situation.
Riona found some help in MC and she is already opening her eyes and standing up for herself. We will see it in future episodes.
This is not quite correct. The Josy of my MC, does not want to falsify anything on this list. No, she wants to do everything on this list with the MC. The way Josy found was just ingenious. Lubricant for Maya.

But seriously.

No, Maya's problem is so she tries everything she could. I repeat, what she could. Then it got to the point in EP7 where she didn't know what to do and resigned. That's normal human behavior when you hit a low point. That's why the MC says to Tommy in EP6 that sometimes it takes someone to help you get back on your feet.

That's exactly what happens with Maya. When she was down, Sage realized that. Sage in turn didn't know why Maya was down and talks to Josy, the MC and eventually Maya overcomes her introversion and tells Sage everything. This took a lot of overcoming on Maya's part and is rewarded.

Riona stands up for herself in the sense that she has prostituted herself and sells drugs. Wow. Equally amazing I think so it's okay for the MC to help Riona but not when he helps Maya. Wow. Please don't get me wrong. I think it's great that the MC is helping Riona and Riona is going to split with Quinn as a result. But why would the MC let Maya's situation escalate to the point it did with Riona in the first place? Would it then be more right in your eye to help Maya?
 

The Glorious LIME

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Maya also considered the possibility of cheating on some of the tasks, it's just that with Josy, that became easier to do because they worked together.

I think people really underestimate the position she was in and what people will do when really desperate. Maya was alone and determined to do this by herself, come hell or high water. Getting into the HOTs was the only shot she saw at potentially freeing herself from Patrick's influence. I bet if you reversed the roles and it was Josy who was all alone here, feeling a great amount of pressure and desperation too, she would have also done it.

People can debate, and bitch, and moan all they want about that first task, but later on, Maya becomes more willing to do things with the MC because she's developing feelings for him and so when we get to the task at the end of Ep 3, Maya isn't breaching any sort of "morals" or "principles" because she's willing to do this with a guy she likes and she also feels as though things are over for her and Josy.

Maya also did have her "wake up" moment in Ep 6, and she does do things for herself, that's pretty much what she did throughout S1. She also knew that the tuition/scholarship she may have gotten from Burke would require that she put in the work to earn it and she was more than prepared to do so.



As someone who has stanned Maya for quite some time, I can understand why people just stop engaging with Maya hate/memeing/trolling because it's exhausting. Not because of the constant defense of her, but because it's the same old tired bullshit all the time from these people. Maya is like a wounded puppy that people are throwing shit at, and it's tiresome having to deal with people who so often show a complete lack of understanding, compassion, and empathy for her character. It's enough to completely destroy any shred of faith you might have in humanity to see people who seemingly have none.
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Couldn't resist, after seeing your avatar :HideThePain:

In all seriousness, I'm quite a vocal Maya shitposter.
But I say this in all seriousness: I respect you.
I respect everyone that stays true to himself and what he likes.
Thing is, this is the internet. Nothing should be taken too seriously.
I mean, I post often about Maya's future "13 mini-games why" episode.
Problem is, some characters aren't bad, it's what DPC does with them that causes fall from grace.
DPC dunks on them, we're here to make fun and meme about it.
The HUGE problem with Maya and Josy is without MC they are doomed.
And when MC is the ONLY THING that holds them together, and the girls are not right for each other...not a pretty sight.
The support structure she has is only through the girls MC hangs around with.
She is forced in every route now almost.
Her brother is pretty much useless in helping her.
Specially since even on others route, Josy is chasing MC still. Prepping a dagger to Maya's back.
It's ok to have some drama, but DPC forced way too much drama in that route.
And some of us are hella tired of it.
If I wanted that kind of drama, I'd watch The OC, Gossip Girls and similar shit.

But, to an outside point of view, we might be appalling.
Just don't take everything seriously, we're all here to have fun and shot the shit.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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I dont like to create theories. But from what I see. Her strength and changes rely on Josy's actions. Josy being there to support her. Someone like me who has been in that kind of relationship, I know this kind of relationship drains a person. And from what I see, DPC seems to have a lot of life experience. If josy really breaks up with her. I fear she'd even try suicide. She'd not succeed, but she'd try at least. I can't imagine Maya in the situation she is right now, not being with MC or Josy.
In this case, I see Maya's ending like this:
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Geralt From Rivia

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Oh, I want it to end too, brother. I had such high hopes for Ep 9. But the thing is, despite this being an issue for Maya, DPC does a fabulous job of not really dwelling on it. Yes, it gets brought up a few times when required in the story, but he's given us so many wonderful, happy, sweet, warm, and sexy moments with both Maya and Josy that when playing, you kind of forget what's going on because you're just focusing on them. Or at least, that's how I feel.

There are so many happy memories being made for the 3 of them on the throuple route and I honestly think this relationship is giving Maya so much more strength and belief than if they're not in this relationship. I love these girls so much for their characters as well as their gorgeous bodies and I just connect so much with Maya on a personal level being someone who is also an introvert and has had personal problems in their life that seemed insurmountable.

I know that eventually these problems will resolve, but for now, I'm greatly enjoying the relationship with these 3 and all the happy moments they get to spend with each other just make the other issues melt away from my thoughts, allowing for that enjoyment to take hold.
We like different things, it's okay.:) I prefer extroverts to introverts. So on the throuple route my favorite is Josy and overall my Tier S is Sage and DIK Zoey. Sage certainly has her introverted moments, but that's about her family and personal feelings, but I like "fire girls".
Zoey is a natural rebel, an outcast and shows it in every possible way, especially outwardly. And she has high social skills, which I really like in people.
 

DanMotta

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This is not quite correct. The Josy of my MC, does not want to falsify anything on this list. No, she wants to do everything on this list with the MC. The way Josy found was just ingenious. Lubricant for Maya.

But seriously.

No, Maya's problem is so she tries everything she could. I repeat, what she could. Then it got to the point in EP7 where she didn't know what to do and resigned. That's normal human behavior when you hit a low point. That's why the MC says to Tommy in EP6 that sometimes it takes someone to help you get back on your feet.

That's exactly what happens with Maya. When she was down, Sage realized that. Sage in turn didn't know why Maya was down and talks to Josy, the MC and eventually Maya overcomes her introversion and tells Sage everything. This took a lot of overcoming on Maya's part and is rewarded.

Riona stands up for herself in the sense that she has prostituted herself and sells drugs. Wow. Equally amazing I think so it's okay for the MC to help Riona but not when he helps Maya. Wow. Please don't get me wrong. I think it's great that the MC is helping Riona and Riona is going to split with Quinn as a result. But why would the MC let Maya's situation escalate to the point it did with Riona in the first place? Would it then be more right in your eye to help Maya?
I was talking about Riona standing up to Quinn on future episodes after MC's help. She being a prostitute and selling drugs comes from before MC even exist. Do you even read what people are talking before replying to them?

Also, I have nothing against prostitutes. They are real and respected people in my opinion and believe it or not, most of them doesn't even work that much and earns a lot more than you and I will ever earn in our 12h/day jobs.
Many clients can't even fuck a prostitute right. they will cum in 3 minutes and their dicks are so small that they won't even feel it. Besides they have their ways to get their job done without having to do much.
Also, since I am respectful man towards these beautiful ladies, I rather call them escorts, girlfriend for rent, instead of prostitute.
If even Jesus could see the good in a prostitute, why would I be different? I am just following Jesus's path.
 

dalli_x

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But there used to be a lot more Maya fans, I even know some OGs who disappeared and stopped writing. For example, Heycock and several other users have not been seen for a long time. Who were ready to protect Maya from attacks.
You see, I do not hate Maya, but against the background of many LIs, she loses for me. For example Sage, Zoey, Bella, Josy, Quinn, Riona, Lily, Nicole are much more interesting. And we must admit that in Trouple it is Josy who gets more attention analyzing F95.
I agree that Maya got a little better in Ep. 8-9 and not acting like a lady in trouble and a drama queen, she began to change for the better. I don't know what copium Maya took, but at the party she seemed normal in terms of the mental system.
But there is one but. One big BUT and this concerns her look. Maya's skin after smallpox:
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Karen is a party planner? It will be a very quiet party, because she doesn't like when the sound is louder than 44 dB.:ROFLMAO:
I'm not concerned with the fact that everyone should like Maya. Everyone has to decide that for themselves.

Personally, I think Jill is ugly. She has a horse's ass and therefore fits well with Tybalt's horse head. Sage has a pretty face, but figure I find terrible. The same goes for Isabella. Lily is horny and so is Rose. Sally is cute. As you can read, I too have my personal tastes.

But what I can't stand is for characters (by that I mean all of them, not just Maya) to be denigrated by false statements. I mean leaving out written facts. Please do not confuse with theories, because theories extend written facts by a possibility which are not known yet.
 

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I'm not concerned with the fact that everyone should like Maya. Everyone has to decide that for themselves.

Personally, I think Jill is ugly. She has a horse's ass and therefore fits well with Tybalt's horse head.
Take five, bro. :cool: Remember - No Jill.

Sage has a pretty face, but figure I find terrible. The same goes for Isabella. Lily is horny and so is Rose. Sally is cute. As you can read, I too have my personal tastes.
Sage is very beautiful to me, although I like medium sized breasts. Bella... well, you understand, the same thing. She's too caricatured as a porn MILF. I don't like it when mature women in AVN are portrayed as milk machines. Cathy in this matter looks the most realistic.
 
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Darx321

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Maya is like a wounded puppy
I hope I didn't wake up the neighbors:KEK::KEK::KEK:

I think so the stun gun thing has a different meaning. The MC got into it with the strongest guy (Chad) in college on the first day of college. That definitely stood out. In EP1 Jacob told Rusty so that's the guy (MC) who messed with Chad in the cafeteria. Not even Tommy has done that since he's been in college. That's what Rusty says.

If someone does that, they are either stupid or else, the person knows so they can pass. Quinn is just playing it safe with the stun gun because if the latter is true, three girls couldn't tame a guy like that.
Well, that makes sense. You're probably right.

I think people really underestimate the position she was in and what people will do when really desperate.

Maya is like a wounded puppy that people are throwing shit at, and it's tiresome having to deal with people who so often show a complete lack of understanding, compassion, and empathy for her character. It's enough to completely destroy any shred of faith you might have in humanity to see people who seemingly have none.
I can understand Maya.
She's not really a difficult character to understand.

But I don't think her problem is that terrible. To have everyone running around her.
She has a great brother, apparently far from a poor family. The only thing is a rather childish problem with her "girlfriend". But first of all she's obviously overreacting, hiding her college relationship, even if her father would come over occasionally is not a problem. HOTs like I wrote before would be perfect for that, and it's trivial to find someone to pretend to be your boyfriend to make dad happy.

Secondly her father obviously loves and cares for her, although not in the best way. However, I think that if she really pressed, her father would rather tolerate her relationship with Josy than "ruin" her life. After all she also has something to threaten him with, she could have said that if he cut off her money with this contract she would go to work for Lily.

Not to mention the fact that she might very well use "legal" methods as well, because this sort of blackmail from her father is clearly illegal.

Besides, she's not even gay, she just hasn't met MC before:KEK:

In any case, her problems are really not a big deal!

Compared to even the other characters: the most obvious example is Quinn. Do you really think that Quinn has a better situation than Maya? What about Riona? Lily?

But they've all found a solution.
Good or bad.
It doesn't matter.

They're strong, and I respect them for that.
Maya, on the other hand... is weak.
And she gets a lot of undeserved attention and pity.
 
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