VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[felicemastronzo]

Seriously hope none of these free-roams are DnG again. To each their own but the absolute low point of the whole game so far for me and DR P got me worried having Jill DnG on his Discord banner.

DPC is very cyclical in his work. we have seen D&G in chapter 2 and 6, it seems to me very likely it will be in chapter 10

 

[Hahn1900]

DPC is very cyclical in his work. we have seen D&G in chapter 2 and 6, it seems to me very likely it will be in chapter 10

Yeah every episode after episode 6 i was afraid to encounter a D&G scenario again.

Perosnally, i like Pen and Paper a lot, played it myself with a group for over 10 years. But this is being a dik. I dont want to see that shit here, especially not if its just a "parody" and distraction. I dont need that, the game already has more than enough distractions. Yeah most of those distractions are creating more "depth" to the game, and most of the times i like them. D&G on the other hand was a huge annoyance, and mostly because it was made so big. Just a short funny encounter like the first time is more than enough i think.

But DPC was kinda in "awe" about the D&G session in episode 6 and wanted to create something like that again... only "bigger". Iam afraid we will see this in episode 10 too. And maybe he is going overboard again with it and MC and his "girlfriends" will join in on magnars group for good and we will see a D&G session in every episode from now on... wouldnt surprise me. Please... never ever D&G again. Would be very much appreciated.

 

[SirDawcio]

Seriously hope none of these free-roams are DnG again. To each their own but the absolute low point of the whole game so far for me and DR P got me worried having Jill DnG on his Discord banner.

I didn't like it at first when episode 6 came out but I liked it a lot more while playing through EP 1 to 9. Great change of pace and also it's D&D hype because of Baldur's Gate 3. I love the fact he put such a love letter to this game. Also multiple endings are fun!

 

[iggy.]

Yeah every episode after episode 6 i was afraid to encounter a D&G scenario again.

Perosnally, i like Pen and Paper a lot, played it myself with a group for over 10 years. But this is being a dik. I dont want to see that shit here, especially not if its just a "parody" and distraction. I dont need that, the game already has more than enough distractions. Yeah most of those distractions are creating more "depth" to the game, and most of the times i like them. D&G on the other hand was a huge annoyance, and mostly because it was made so big. Just a short funny encounter like the first time is more than enough i think.

But DPC was kinda in "awe" about the D&G session in episode 6 and wanted to create something like that again... only "bigger". Iam afraid we will see this in episode 10 too. And maybe he is going overboard again with it and MC and his "girlfriends" will join in on magnars group for good and we will see a D&G session in every episode from now on... wouldnt surprise me. Please... never ever D&G again. Would be very much appreciated.

Well, if he wants to piss of his fanbase, he will create D&G freeroam event. Something short, that will push plot with Sally is welcome, but 800+ renders ? I really hope he is not that insane.

At this point we have main arc, + 10 or so arcs with LI's. Fans want to see pace picking up and plot moving forward.

 

[Darkwen]

Damn animations left

Seems like I heard this somewhere before but at least the scenes are close to being finish

 

[iggy.]

I think he just sees it more than just a porn game for people to masturbate. And as a guy who doesn't do it either I can see it that way. This game has a lot more focus on building the story and character arcs in a believable way (as much believable as you can do student fucking a teacher, or 5 girls in one night).

It is really frustrating for fans following the production more closely but I think it's gonna be received well when everything is finished. I have the same opinion about episode 9. Tragic episode to be the last one before "no more content" screen but it's gonna be a great change of pace once further episodes get released.

It's also the topic filled with many shades of gray. DPC does everything because of huge support from the community but the community isn't a game developer that created this IMO great game, DPC is. How much should their opinions influence the dev process? Wouldn't it make it worse?

I, for one, believe that SFW animations is one of the parts that make this VN stand out from the rest and feel more, professional, let's say.

I also believe that sometimes we humans only think we know what we want or need. And even thought sometimes there are excellent ideas here or on Reddit, I don't think it should be the best course of actions if the mind and the vision of one guy led us here, with this quality that we have.

As the saying goes: Too many cooks spoil the broth

1. I disagree with you. Take BADIK for what is it. Adult visual novel with decent story.
2. This point I actually agree. I think ep9 will age well when looked at when season 3 is done. It felt short but it did plant seeds for future conflicts.
3. I mean he wouldnt be where he is without fanbase and patrons. I respect his vision for main story and plot, but in the end you need to give your fanbase what they want.There is a reason good guy always win at the end of action movie.
4. Once again we go back to point 1.Your average consumer doesnt really care about that.They bought the game to see some porn and thats it. Decent story is a bonus.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Yeah every episode after episode 6 i was afraid to encounter a D&G scenario again.

Perosnally, i like Pen and Paper a lot, played it myself with a group for over 10 years. But this is being a dik. I dont want to see that shit here, especially not if its just a "parody" and distraction. I dont need that, the game already has more than enough distractions. Yeah most of those distractions are creating more "depth" to the game, and most of the times i like them. D&G on the other hand was a huge annoyance, and mostly because it was made so big. Just a short funny encounter like the first time is more than enough i think.

But DPC was kinda in "awe" about the D&G session in episode 6 and wanted to create something like that again... only "bigger". Iam afraid we will see this in episode 10 too. And maybe he is going overboard again with it and MC and his "girlfriends" will join in on magnars group for good and we will see a D&G session in every episode from now on... wouldnt surprise me. Please... never ever D&G again. Would be very much appreciated.

I don't like D&G, I find only Lynette's diary more boring than it. But despite this I expect it in the next chapter

 

[sampow]

I think he just sees it more than just a porn game for people to masturbate. And as a guy who doesn't do it either I can see it that way. This game has a lot more focus on building the story and character arcs in a believable way (as much believable as you can do student fucking a teacher, or 5 girls in one night).

It is really frustrating for fans following the production more closely but I think it's gonna be received well when everything is finished. I have the same opinion about episode 9. Tragic episode to be the last one before "no more content" screen but it's gonna be a great change of pace once further episodes get released.

It's also the topic filled with many shades of gray. DPC does everything because of huge support from the community but the community isn't a game developer that created this IMO great game, DPC is. How much should their opinions influence the dev process? Wouldn't it make it worse?

I, for one, believe that SFW animations is one of the parts that make this VN stand out from the rest and feel more, professional, let's say.

I also believe that sometimes we humans only think we know what we want or need. And even thought sometimes there are excellent ideas here or on Reddit, I don't think it should be the best course of actions if the mind and the vision of one guy led us here, with this quality that we have.

As the saying goes: Too many cooks spoil the broth

Episode 9 indicated that DPC's lost the plot as regards to what feels right. The dude's long-ass animations were just pointless. He even had an animation of the preps coming to the Halloween party in their whatever-the-fuck-they-were-wearing costumes. No one gives a fuck about the preps, why include them in an animation that probably took a day to do?

If episode 10 turns out to be a DPC vanity-project (which is the direction this game seems to have started to take), I'll have pretty much lost interest. Sure it's polished and looks better than most games, but it's becoming bloated the way all good products go once they forget what they are doing...

Totally hope to be proven wrong!

Seriously hope none of these free-roams are DnG again. To each their own but the absolute low point of the whole game so far for me and DR P got me worried having Jill DnG on his Discord banner.

I loved DnG! It's long overdue for another one!

DPC is very cyclical in his work. we have seen D&G in chapter 2 and 6, it seems to me very likely it will be in chapter 10

I must concur! Which is obviously a safer way to suggest I agree!

Yeah every episode after episode 6 i was afraid to encounter a D&G scenario again.

Perosnally, i like Pen and Paper a lot, played it myself with a group for over 10 years. But this is being a dik. I dont want to see that shit here, especially not if its just a "parody" and distraction. I dont need that, the game already has more than enough distractions. Yeah most of those distractions are creating more "depth" to the game, and most of the times i like them. D&G on the other hand was a huge annoyance, and mostly because it was made so big. Just a short funny encounter like the first time is more than enough i think.

But DPC was kinda in "awe" about the D&G session in episode 6 and wanted to create something like that again... only "bigger". Iam afraid we will see this in episode 10 too. And maybe he is going overboard again with it and MC and his "girlfriends" will join in on magnars group for good and we will see a D&G session in every episode from now on... wouldnt surprise me. Please... never ever D&G again. Would be very much appreciated.

I bet if the next DnG game results in Sally being "nicer" to the mc, and Magnar wondering what the fuck is going on (or just being nerdishly oblivious), people are gonna start changing their tune about the DnG game. It could lead to some "progression" after all, know what I mean?

 

[Darkwen]

1. I disagree with you. Take BADIK for what is it. Adult visual novel with decent story.
2. This point I actually agree. I think ep9 will age well when looked at when season 3 is done. It felt short but it did plant seeds for future conflicts.
3. I mean he wouldnt be where he is without fanbase and patrons. I respect his vision for main story and plot, but in the end you need to give your fanbase what they want.There is a reason good guy always win at the end of action movie.
4. Once again we go back to point 1.Your average consumer doesnt really care about that.They bought the game to see some porn and thats it. Decent story is a bonus.

As many have I said I came for the porn stayed for the story. While writing might be DPC weakness which is funny because his better 98% of the other devs. The porn is great but it's nothing without a great story

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Seems like I heard this somewhere before but at least the scenes are close to being finish

Just another average animations waiting on the ending of development time. Again.

 

[Darkwen]

Just another average animations waiting on the ending of development time. Again.

The are three things in life that are sure to happen: life, death and waiting for DPC to finish his animations

 

[Ottoeight]

I didn't like it at first when episode 6 came out but I liked it a lot more while playing through EP 1 to 9. Great change of pace and also it's D&D hype because of Baldur's Gate 3. I love the fact he put such a love letter to this game. Also multiple endings are fun!

Well, I have the feeling that if DrPinkCake delivered a new interlude starring Madame Rose in a forbidden relationship with Tybalt it would be golden for you, because everything he does is pure gold in your opinion.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Everyone loves badik's story, but then when they have to talk about it the only quality would be better than most of the other avn, which are often semi-amateurishly written by people who have problens with English. Good but not great

 

[lipe2410]

I came for the porn stayed for the story

The story:

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

1. I disagree with you. Take BADIK for what is it. Adult visual novel with decent story.
2. This point I actually agree. I think ep9 will age well when looked at when season 3 is done. It felt short but it did plant seeds for future conflicts.
3. I mean he wouldnt be where he is without fanbase and patrons. I respect his vision for main story and plot, but in the end you need to give your fanbase what they want.There is a reason good guy always win at the end of action movie.
4. Once again we go back to point 1.Your average consumer doesnt really care about that.They bought the game to see some porn and thats it. Decent story is a bonus.

Personally I have to push back on some of this. Not against your entire post because I think you're correct on point #1 & 2, but to make sure we're all still grounded on firm footing. DPC is writing a visual novel. How this works is not "Let's see what the ppl want to read about", it's his idea and his story to tell. Fact people are getting lured in by the lewd content is simply a bonus for him as far as revenue is concerned.

I get what you are trying to get across, but your argument would hold more water if it were about a regular "WASD" FPS game or MMO. But in general most non sandboxed VN's typically have a storyboard to follow no matter what the reader thinks it should be like. Most of my criticisms on VNs are generally grammar based and DPC doesn't have issues with grammar. But some other VNs though, it's like you'll have a very competent programmer at the helm, but it's like the fucker never opened a book in his life.

If the fans aren't happy with how Ep9 turned out, well that's just tough cookie. But DPC owes no one anything outside of his contractual obligations with other publishing platforms. To any of us? He doesn't owe anyone anything no matter what people would think the story should be like.

 

[ffive]

Everyone loves badik's story, but then when they have to talk about it the only quality would be better than most of the other avn, which are often semi-amateurishly written by people who have problens with English. Good but not great

Honestly, it's also quite on par with plenty of YA novels, including some of the acclaimed drivel.

 

[Darkwen]

The story:
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The best story

 

[lipe2410]

Miss you. It's been so long

 

[Joshy92]

I'm probably in the minority but I have not jacked off to this game ever
I have other lesser games for that
I have played a lot of games on here and I find this to have some of the best relationship building and writing around
That's why I think of this game as a work of art not just porn

 

[ffive]

I'm probably in the minority but I have not jacked off to this game ever