VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[Darkwen]

What excuses are you talking about?

Patrick, Maya said she would like to think her and Josy problems are because of him

 

[hayashi123]

cant waiting to try

 

[Darkwen]

What about Halloween pics and drawed conclusion, I just wondered if I missed something.

Dalix said they where a was, I didn't see them as that

 

[felicemastronzo]

Patrick, Maya said she would like to think her and Josy problems are because of him
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she doesn't seem to me to be making excuses, Patrick pounced like a train on their story and certainly has his own responsibility in the problems in the relationship of the two girls.

then anything that is not Patrick's fault can be shared by the 2 girls

 

[Darkwen]

she doesn't seem to me to be making excuses, Patrick pounced like a train on their story and certainly has his own responsibility in the problems in the relationship of the two girls.

then anything that is not Patrick's fault can be shared by the 2 girls

Patrick is a problem but he isn't the root of there problems I think what Maya kind of speaking to

 

[Kpyna]

she doesn't seem to me to be making excuses, Patrick pounced like a train on their story and certainly has his own responsibility in the problems in the relationship of the two girls.

then anything that is not Patrick's fault can be shared by the 2 girls

Dialogue with Maya on her "solo path":

    mc "The three magic words."
    my "..."
    if ep10_feelingsForMaya:
        my "Are you ok? I hope I didn't turn you on too much."
        mc "It's not that."
        my "Then what is it?"
        mc "I..."
        mc "I still have feelings for you."
        my "What?"
        mc "I have feelings for you, Maya."
        my "What? Uh... When?"
        mc "It's been in the back of my mind since what feels like forever."
        mc "And I know that it's a horrible thing to say to you when you're with Josy - someone I absolutely adore."
        mc "I want you two to be happy together, but I can't help it..."
        mc "I have tried so damned hard to let go and opening my eyes to someone new to stop feeling the way I do about you."
        mc "And it's like every time I am near you, everything we do together..."
        mc "It makes it worse. It reinforces those feelings."
        mc "But I can't stop seeing you. I don't want that."
        mc "So, what I do is that I lie to myself. I pretend that I don't feel anything for you anymore."
        mc "But I don't know for how long I can keep on doing that."
        mc "I'm so sorry... Fuck... I shouldn't have told you this. I'm such an asshole."
        my "..."
        my "..."
        mc "Can you say something?"
        my "..."
        my "I'm with Josy, [name]."
        mc "I know."
        my "I can't think of what to tell you."
        mc "Why?"
        my "Because it's a thought process that I don't want to have."
        my "It's scary. And if I start thinking about it, I will start questioning things."
        my "Things that I don't want to question."
        mc "I should have kept my mouth shut."
        my "I should get back to my dorm."
        mc "Maya... This feels like shit."
        my "Well, how do you think I feel!?"
        mc "Please, don't be mad..."
        my "You have no right to say those things to me. What are you thinking?"
        mc "That I'm not over you. That's all I keep thinking."
        my "Fuck, [name]! Fuck!"

 

[ReallyNotTimmy]

As I mentioned in another post, I don’t write my recaps with my girlfriend from memory. ReallyNotTina really liked my first recap, but felt it could be more accurate, so I said, “Then let me record it.” She was really hesitant at first—she thought at first I meant audio, and since we read Being a DIK aloud, there’d be incriminating audio of her saying some really naughty things. (Not that I don’t already have some spicy voicemails from her.) But no, I said, I’ll use the transcription app we use all the time at work. “Oh that’ll work,” she said.

The transcript requires a lot of editing, but I’m used to that. It really takes no time at all.

So, on to Episode 5.

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[dalli_x]

The last part is suitable description for all religious people.

But not for Patrick. Patrick uses religion as an alibi because he doesn't live by it.

Because the game is not about your MC and your choices. And since you buiding a theory based on something that depends on player choices you should at least make it coherent and notice how author of game could play it out in both circumstances.

In the game it is based on my decision as a player of the MC, because there will be different endings, so the decisions as a player are important for these different endings, because otherwise there would only be one ending. Simple logic.

The moment you're talking is about Maya meant free tuition from HOTs and was more confident than ever before to get this free tuition even if some of the scavenger hunt tasks was uncomfortable and inapropriate for her. She clearly wanted to get rid of the Patrick by getting this free tuition from HOTs, so she can tell Patrick to fuck off. That's why she was so desperate later when she realized that it was also a lie (well, not, but she hadn't "fitted" and even so, I doubt that she would go for it if only she known what free tuition was about). She saw it as the only chance to get out of Patrick's trap.

Regarding porn... Patrick is very conservative and old-fashioned. Maya mentioned this magazines once btw, that Derek used to "use" them in the context that these were the only books he "read".

But seriously... The dude has been living with his sick wife for almost 20 years. He clearly wasn't cheating on her, so... the only option for him is to jerk off. It's strange to explain such obvious things. And don't tell me that "religious" people don't jerk off, have sex, etc., and if they do, it's only for childbirth purposes. Spare me these fairy tales. It's a bullshit.

But it showed that Maya is willing to do anything to break various boundaries to achieve her goal of freeing herself from Patrick.

Yes, I know that Maya mentioned Papa's porn magazines, I think in EP2 or EP3, in class.

Maybe it's because he hasn't had sex with a woman in 20 years. But what does the Bible say? So Patrick is exposed as a hypocrite of his religion. But in principle I don't care because Patrick is a pig to me either way.

What picture? I've lost touch If you are talking about render from outside the window, showing MC and Maya running inside the classroom, then there is no evidence that somebody watching on them of takes a photo. There're a lot of same shit, including Bella's place at night, etc. For me it still seems like DPC way of fucking with players, especially ones, who played AL. Because similar render there was used to point on Leah (crazy psycho bitch).

But what if DPC didn't screw us over in this context? That's the thing about possibilities. Either he screws us over or he doesn't and presents us with the solution later. You can't rule out both.

The major and most important consequences of solo Maya path that Josy will be absolutely devastated, even worse than in case of break up with Throuple. Because she loses both Maya and MC and remains completely alone. The very nightmare she had tried so hard to avoid and talked / meant about. After break up with Throuple, she at least have Maya and they getting motivation to save their relationship (if DPC will decide such outcome as an option and will write this sub-path in this way, of course).

On the other side, I can barely imagine consequences for solo Josy path. Because it was Maya words, that nobody should be forced to something if he feel different. And they both know that their own relationship goes south when they are not in Throuple. So, at first solo Josy path feels better and safer in terms of consequences. But let's wait and see.

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Why you dragging different events from absolutely different paths and outcomes to some particular theory, while when playing for solo Maya you barely doesn't have those scenes and options that you had mentioned? No photos/videos, no class room, no curtain scene, etc. The only thing that may affect somehow the solo Maya path is telling Josy about Chad & Troy, since if you confide in Josy, she comes up with a "beard" idea and MC comes back to Maya's home as her boyfriend (and it would be evil move from DPC if this option will be req for success with Maya solo path, because in such case, Josy literally fucking up herself by coming up with this idea.)

Of course, Josy would be devastated if she lost both of them. That is beyond question. But Maya's first love is and remains Josy, and that will never change. What is important here is what Maya says to MC when he asked her how she feels after talking to Patrick. She doesn't feel good because her father only accepts her if he thinks she's heterosexual. On the one hand, this is already an indication that Maya loves Josy and is bisexual, because otherwise Maya would feel comfortable. But she doesn't. Strangely enough, Maya tells the MC when she spends Friday with him so that she feels more comfortable with the MC than with Josy. Do you recognize the contradiction? Then somewhere Maya lied.

You're forgetting a lot with this "beard" thing. Already in the library, Sage asks whether the MC is Maya's boyfriend or not. Then we continue with a decision when greeting Patrick. Does the MC play it cool or does he kiss Maya in front of Patrick. And ultimately Sage will find out at the dinner table so that the MC is Maya's boyfriend and Sage will realize so that the MC was honest with her from the beginning, i.e. in EP1, when the MC said to Sage so that he doesn't have any friends yet . Sage is grateful for this, so she has found true friends. That's what the game is about, putting the MC's words into action through the player's decisions. Words are just words and when actions are opposite to the words spoken, then they are lies.

Josy's heart is on her sleeve. Maya is more subtle and she's introvert. Replay all previous scenes with Maya and they will all be about sex too or about Maya's problems and her past partially. They NEVER talked about feelings. Maya acts subtle. Like, by asking MC in Gender 101 class "do you like me?" and game remember this choice. In EP1 she asked MC not to be attracted to her. And game remember MC response too.
Josy doesn't talk openly about her feelings either, but she doesn't know how to hide them, and her body language, her glance, and everything else speak for themselves. That's the difference.

Why? Because Throuple got the most late commitment among MGs - at the end of EP9. Before that moment they tried to behave and keep all those emotions low to not blow up later if something will go wrong. But even so, the break up with Throple was terrible, because hiding feelings does not mean not experiencing them and does not mean that they did not grow with every day spent together. And even Sage notes that she is not even standing next to them on an emotional level.

You don't have to write that to me because I know that. Nevertheless, Maya and Josy have the problem Patrick and the easiest solution is still to make Patrick believe that Maya is heterosexual. It's about Maya's college fees. I'm still afraid that Josy and Maya will screw the MC because the MC is a DIK in terms of affinity. They take advantage of the DIK MC like many DIKs take advantage of other girls.

Patrick obviously happy and he can't believe his eyes, in a good way. He said "I'm sorry" to Maya at the kitchen, and according to how Maya took it in, he haven't said something like that for years to her. She even asked him again "You are sorry?"

That's exactly the problem. Although Patrick apologizes to Maya in the kitchen, he is incredulous at the dinner table so that Maya and the MC are a couple.

"It is certainly something out of the ordinary."

What is there not to understand about this sentence from Patrick? Patrick knows that Josy and Maya were in a homosexual relationship. Patrick doesn't believe Maya and the MC. He only realizes it when he touches Maya roughly and the MC appears angry.

 

[dalli_x]

I wouldn't draw that conclusion from the Halloween pics but either way proof of Josy and Maya coming break up and solo path

You worded that incorrectly. The pictures are perfect to make someone believe that Josy and Maya have separated.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Dialogue with Maya on her "solo path":

    mc "The three magic words."
    my "..."
    if ep10_feelingsForMaya:
        my "Are you ok? I hope I didn't turn you on too much."
        mc "It's not that."
        my "Then what is it?"
        mc "I..."
        mc "I still have feelings for you."
        my "What?"
        mc "I have feelings for you, Maya."
        my "What? Uh... When?"
        mc "It's been in the back of my mind since what feels like forever."
        mc "And I know that it's a horrible thing to say to you when you're with Josy - someone I absolutely adore."
        mc "I want you two to be happy together, but I can't help it..."
        mc "I have tried so damned hard to let go and opening my eyes to someone new to stop feeling the way I do about you."
        mc "And it's like every time I am near you, everything we do together..."
        mc "It makes it worse. It reinforces those feelings."
        mc "But I can't stop seeing you. I don't want that."
        mc "So, what I do is that I lie to myself. I pretend that I don't feel anything for you anymore."
        mc "But I don't know for how long I can keep on doing that."
        mc "I'm so sorry... Fuck... I shouldn't have told you this. I'm such an asshole."
        my "..."
        my "..."
        mc "Can you say something?"
        my "..."
        my "I'm with Josy, [name]."
        mc "I know."
        my "I can't think of what to tell you."
        mc "Why?"
        my "Because it's a thought process that I don't want to have."
        my "It's scary. And if I start thinking about it, I will start questioning things."
        my "Things that I don't want to question."
        mc "I should have kept my mouth shut."
        my "I should get back to my dorm."
        mc "Maya... This feels like shit."
        my "Well, how do you think I feel!?"
        mc "Please, don't be mad..."
        my "You have no right to say those things to me. What are you thinking?"
        mc "That I'm not over you. That's all I keep thinking."
        my "Fuck, [name]! Fuck!"

This, however, is another situation.

MC in pressure on Maya normal to be a source of wavering and doubt for her

 

[ReallyNotTimmy]

Patrick obviously happy and he can't believe his eyes, in a good way. He said "I'm sorry" to Maya at the kitchen, and according to how Maya took it in, he haven't said something like that for years to her. She even asked him again "You are sorry?"

That's exactly the problem. Although Patrick apologizes to Maya in the kitchen, he is incredulous at the dinner table so that Maya and the MC are a couple.

"It is certainly something out of the ordinary."

What is there not to understand about this sentence from Patrick? Patrick knows that Josy and Maya were in a homosexual relationship. Patrick doesn't believe Maya and the MC. He only realizes it when he touches Maya roughly and the MC appears angry.

Parents, even homophobic ones, tend to know when their kids are gay. They may hate that fact; they may be in denial; they may try to convert their gay kids. But they’re fully aware that they have gay kids.

So Patrick knows Maya is gay, but isn’t happy about it; and when she shows up with a boyfriend he’s gonna be skeptical. Because he should be skeptical. She likes girls! And discovering she’s bi is a very recent development for Maya—and for that matter she might not even be bisexual; she might only be Tremolosexual, because Tremolo is the only male exception she will ever make. Patrick’s aware you can’t just flip a switch and be straight; if you could there wouldn’t be gay-conversion programs. (Which are bullshit, but still.)

So of course he’s incredulous. It is too good to be true. And even if you’re not on the Maya/Josy path, Maya does like him that way, so it’s partly true. But it’s out of the ordinary for Patrick. Ordinary for him is a daughter who likes girls.

 

[Joshy92]

Honestly guys Maya is the perfect woman for me.
I would rather cuddle up on the couch with her and watch a movie than go to some annoying party with too many people around.

 

[Darkwen]

You worded that incorrectly. The pictures are perfect to make someone believe that Josy and Maya have separated.

Not at that moment since very few would know about Josy and Maya. And Maya wouldn't want it to look like they in relationship anyway for safely. Josy and Maya are far closer to friends than girlfriends but not sure I get that conclusion from those pics that not the intent

 

[ChipLecsap]

Not at that moment since very few would know about Josy and Maya. And Maya wouldn't want it to look like they in relationship anyway for safely. Josy and Maya are far closer to friends than girlfriends but not sure I get that conclusion from those pics that not the intent

Josy and Maya are just friends with Benefits, they just didn't realized it yet

 

[Darkwen]

Josy and Maya are just friends with Benefits, they just didn't realized it yet

In a way that is true

 

[ChipLecsap]

In a way that is true

Not just in one way, that's the truth . But seriously Josy and Maya relationship, combined with the loan story is literally the worst part of the game. worst of all because at least the Tybalt blackmail plot only lasted 2 and half episode

first of all before I forget. Sara and Mell probably have closer relationship with each other than Josy and maya have with each other.
and honestly everything regarding of them is so outdated. Lesbians are not a secret anymore, and people are not look weirdly at them and all the shit maya and josy say, they reached the point where its not COOL anymore to be gay, and they reached that level long time ago.

they make this big secret , worry to someone find out in the school, but everyone would be like just, "oh cool, or , I don't give a fuck about it. " These are the reaction they would get.

Patrick would be labeled as being homophobic, he would canceled by the peoples, folks would not by car from this homophobe etc.
But frankly, Parent now day are rather disappointed if their kids are not gay, or trans or whatever else, except a straight girl or guy.

it is really an outdated storyline, what is also badly executed one. in fact may be even offensive, because it's basically a story about a girl who think she is "lesbian" all because she didn't find the right penis until he meet with the main protagonist.

Jill story is also outdated as fuck, but he catering to a weirdo incel crowd who are obsessed with virgin girls

so yeah basically it's fucked up storytelling from the ground level.

 

[Sun of Rome]

Not just in one way, that's the truth . But seriously Josy and Maya relationship, combined with the loan story is literally the worst part of the game. worst of all because at least the Tybalt blackmail plot only lasted 2 and half episode

first of all before I forget. Sara and Mell probably have closer relationship with each other than Josy and maya have with each other.
and honestly everything regarding of them is so outdated. Lesbians are not a secret anymore, and people are not look weirdly at them and all the shit maya and josy say, they reached the point where its not COOL anymore to be gay, and they reached that level long time ago.

they make this big secret , worry to someone find out in the school, but everyone would be like just, "oh cool, or , I don't give a fuck about it. " These are the reaction they would get.

Patrick would be labeled as being homophobic, he would canceled by the peoples, folks would not by car from this homophobe etc.
But frankly, Parent now day are rather disappointed if their kids are not gay, or trans or whatever else, except a straight girl or guy.

it is really an outdated storyline, what is also badly executed one. in fact may be even offensive, because it's basically a story about a girl who think she is "lesbian" all because she didn't find the right penis until he meet with the main protagonist.

Jill story is also outdated as fuck, but he catering to a weirdo incel crowd who are obsessed with virgin girls

so yeah basically it's fucked up storytelling from the ground level.

It's not the worst part of the story, it's just that their relationship is pretty inconsistent.
I don't really understand why Josy and Maya are still sticking together and there aren't any coherent explanations in play other than a weird summer romance that feels more like a casual fling than a serious relationship and the fact that Patrick is against it. They never acted like a couple. Probably DPC doesn't want to hurt the delicate psyche of his patrons, but this reticence hurts the visualization of their relationship in the game a lot.
In ep4 they kissed so passionately in the ending and their relationship seemed genuine, and the MC was a random person they never loved. And then there was Josy's sudden confession in ep5. It was really weird. It was just cheap drama for nothing.
I like Josy, but I don't like how DPC devalues her at all. It feels like she has no pride and her whole life is either about running around with puppy dog eyes after MC and crying over unrequited love, or agreeing with and supporting Maya in everything. Josy has potential, but DPC intentionally or accidentally ruins this character for a lot of empty drama.


P.S. Something I realized recently.
Josy seems to be breaking up with Maya in ep11 whether MC confesses his feelings for her or not.
It's just that if you pay attention, we have two decision points in scene with Josy in ep10
1) Josy admits to Maya that she loves MC and wants to break up.
2) Josy just admits to Maya that she loves MC and wants to keep the relationship with her (as MC advises her)
Either way this will all lead to a breakup. No one likes to hear your girlfriend say outright that she loves someone else. Either Sage will come into the room again and listen intently to what they are saying and shake his head understandingly.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Not just in one way, that's the truth . But seriously Josy and Maya relationship, combined with the loan story is literally the worst part of the game. worst of all because at least the Tybalt blackmail plot only lasted 2 and half episode

first of all before I forget. Sara and Mell probably have closer relationship with each other than Josy and maya have with each other.
and honestly everything regarding of them is so outdated. Lesbians are not a secret anymore, and people are not look weirdly at them and all the shit maya and josy say, they reached the point where its not COOL anymore to be gay, and they reached that level long time ago.

they make this big secret , worry to someone find out in the school, but everyone would be like just, "oh cool, or , I don't give a fuck about it. " These are the reaction they would get.

Patrick would be labeled as being homophobic, he would canceled by the peoples, folks would not by car from this homophobe etc.
But frankly, Parent now day are rather disappointed if their kids are not gay, or trans or whatever else, except a straight girl or guy.

it is really an outdated storyline, what is also badly executed one. in fact may be even offensive, because it's basically a story about a girl who think she is "lesbian" all because she didn't find the right penis until he meet with the main protagonist.

Jill story is also outdated as fuck, but he catering to a weirdo incel crowd who are obsessed with virgin girls

so yeah basically it's fucked up storytelling from the ground level.

DPC is a boomer, BADIK is set at least 20 years ago

 

[ChipLecsap]

DPC is a boomer, BADIK is set at least 20 years ago

Well, even 20 years ago, Lesbian were considered the hottest thing. Remember American pie? You know a movie that dpc considering one of his inspiration, well in the second part, American Pie 2.
the boys think there are two lesbian in their neighbourhood. and that is so Fucking Hot.
You all remember those scenes, right, the girls were fucking with the guys, and then at the end of the movie, they were like : "We never said We lesbians , lets have a Threesome, Stifler"

 

[L1m1tl3ss]

DPC is a boomer, BADIK is set at least 20 years ago

Yeah, because the kind of people that called themselves feminists back then totally looked like this: