Mormont

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We don't know that Jade dislikes Bella. What Jade dosen't like is her husband being more attracted to Bella than her. There's a difference.
Dejavu could have sworn I said all this earlier as well, but yes you are right the only issue here is that Bella I'm not sure if it's a dislike for Jade but she doesn't seem very comfortable around the Burkes I'd say that's more down to Stephen than Jade so she probably just prefers to avoid them both.
 

Mechaforce

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We have changed the rules sig work aswell if you wanna be in the army, but if you wanna become an honorary member, Jill profile pic you must
Ill work on it, I have to show my pride for the raccoon army :KEK:
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TomPhan

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Anyone have any ideas for how the Maya/Josy storyline could be "fixed"? I've thought about it, but I just don't see any sort of redemption for those characters happening for me. I'm not saying it was necessarily badly written (though some think so), but this episode kind of ruined those characters for me (though again, some loved it).
I actually thought about that for a while, and I'll share my thoughts. Apologies in advance, I'm pretty sure this is going to be a whole lot of text once again.

Obviously, what Josy or Maya might do exactly depends on how the story will develop, but I believe it should be possible for them to redeem themselves.

The first question would be if it's even an issue that these two aren't too popular among players. I think it is.

To elaborate - if we are looking at Quinn, for example, I would argue it's actually a good thing that many dislike her, because she is intended to be a divisive character, and so far the game allowed players to act towards her accordingly.

In contrast, Maya and Josy are close friends with the MC, and if a player strongly dislikes a character that the player character is supposed to like, they are probably going to feel at least a little bit disconnected from the game, and that's never a good thing.

Right now, some might feel they'd rather be done with Maya and Josy for good, but if they were to disappear from the scene I think it would actually make it worse. After all, they were desperate for the MC to give them another chance - so now that they finally reconciled after all this drama, not actually being friends with each other would not only make Maya and Josy look bad, but also the MC and that entire story arc. I'd rather have them fixed.

So in order to fix them, let's look at what's wrong with them. Why exactly do people dislike them, apart from how how that reconciliation scene went down?

I'd say it's mostly that while they have been pretty close to the MC in the early stages of the season, there was no significant progress with either girl ever since. On the contrary.
  • Josy came out of the gate especially strong, making out with the MC in the first couple of minutes, and inviting him to some sexy time not long after. It felt like she was about to dump her anonymous boyfriend in favour of MC - instead things got complicated, to say the least.
  • Maya let the MC move in with her when he was in desperate need of a place to stay. That was pretty cool - but just when things were starting to heat up between her and MC, she fucked him over pretty badly. To make things worse, after the MC had forgiven her, we found out she had lied about her being in a relationship - not once, but twice.
This in itself probably wouldn't be that much of an issue, but it's certainly not something to write home about if you compare it to our recent progress with all the other main ladies:
  • We had our first date with Jill, had a blast and shared a passionate kiss.
  • Sage allowed the MC to stay at her place, they are now friends with benefits and have gone all the way for the first time.
  • Bella allowed the MC to stay at her place, was surprisingly caring, and there was even some sexytime in her bathroom.
Plus, if someone doesn't want to actively pursue either of these three, all those intimate moments are avoidable, at least for now. They are not forced on players the way Josy and Maya are, so at least there's little reason to be annoyed by them.

Either way, what Jill, Sage and Bella have in common is that at some point, they took the MC into their homes and took care of him when he was in trouble. Also, so did Derek.

It's so easy to like these characters because they were friends in need. They have proven that they care about the MC, and I believe that's exactly what Josy and Maya will have to do. Josy has been all talk so far (although that's not entirely her fault), and Maya's signs of care where undone by signs of betrayal.

So what I'm thinking is that they have to do something, anything, that only a real friend would do. After that, they might be allowed to ride off into the sunset, but they should do something meaningful before that. Also, I think it's important that they get their individual moments with the MC instead of constantly apparing as a happy couple, for obvious reasons.

Again, they can only do whatever the story allows them to do and personally, I'm not much into speculating, but I don't see the MC leading an entirely carefree life in future seasons. I have no clue what is going to happen, but I'm sure there will be dark times ahead for the MC, and there will be plenty of opportunities for someone to step up and be the best friend they can possibly be.
 

ninetofive

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Dejavu could have sworn I said all this earlier as well, but yes you are right the only issue here is that Bella I'm not sure if it's a dislike for Jade but she doesn't seem very comfortable around the Burkes I'd say that's more down to Stephen than Jade so she probably just prefers to avoid them both.
I think there is a scene in episode four where it's implied that Bella doesn't like Jade. I think it's on the Bella route. Only played that route once will have to go back through and try to find it sometime.
 

Triple OG

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Burke (or Jade, don't recall which) mentioned trying to spice up their relationship and mentioned Bella. Bella seemingly implies that she did it. I actually found this post that basically describes what went down, it was a few hours ago lol. This threads moves too fast to keep up with

The thing is though, we don't actually know when the Bella/Jade/Burke stuff happened, as mentioned above. The husband could've left when he found out and Bella hasn't done anything since because of regret. Thats why I said Bella has cheated more than once, potentially.
I don't think Bella agreed to the threesome just probably bad memories from whatever occurred after she rejected the invitation. And when Bella was sitting at the pool she said "I had forgiven James" and not herself so I doubt she was the one who cheated.

Like you said we will know for sure in the future EPs though.(y)
 

ohhiimfox

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Ok so what the hell do i play now that ive completed this. I need something to tide me over to season 2, is there a specific thread or forum to post in for that, nothing i have played has been quite this good
check my Sig, there are a few options. i dont name any games in this or other game threads again.... not after some idiot reported me... -.-"
 

ninetofive

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I said both Jill and Tybalt I added to the answer so what's the confusion here?
Because that's not what the guy was asking. He wanted to know how to get the choice to see Bella in the library. To get that choice relies on changing her opinion of you in the lunch scene, has nothing to do with the choice of whether you pick Tybalt or Jill.
 
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Knight_BP

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You guys are no fun.

I was just kidding, just to make it clear. :LOL:
Yeah I know, but if we did fight it would be just a lose-lose battle, because none of us will change their opinion :LUL:
And it would be stupid because we would be fighting over who is the best girl in a porn vn game
 

Mechaforce

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Nah, no fight. I respect his misplaced admiration for Jill. He's just not spent enough time with Envy to realize what he's missing yet.

Whereas my MC is never leaving that damned Pink Rose again. Stalker? Why yes, please. :D
Idk, the shower scene with Jill where you get to grab her FIRM tit, is more than enough to show who the best girl is, which isn't Envy AKA "Old Boobs" :KEK:
 
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