SpikyHair

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"Quinn raped me" lmao, are you guys for real? Breaking news, choose the option "No" and it won't happen.
Nice strawman you got there.

Notice the "attempted" part of my statement? Which, frankly, isn't even a legal term. At least in terms of the federal law, the US doesn't have a legal definition of "rape" as such, state laws vary on that.

What Quinn does do is attempt to use social pressure to force sexual contact whether MC likes it or not. And not just within the already morally questionable "hazing" setting, but taking if much further - she removes the condom (again, without MC's consent, and that thing is there for a reason), then attempts literal penetration while being her manipulative self and relying on social pressure to quiet any potential objection from the MC.

Which works to a degree even IF you, as a player, decide it's not OK - rather than have your character explicitly demand she stops, your character ends up resorting to subterfuge to prevent the act. You're welcome to theorize as to why pick that over direct confrontation, but it does not change the fact that Quinn tried to sexualy force herself on MC at that point.
Quinn won't rape you and everything will be okay for you. Shocking, right? (Pun intended) Quinn tasing MC right before that event occurs is way worse honestly.
Everything will be ok for "me" even if I see some on-screen penetration from Quinn, regardless of whether I like her as a character or not, because it's not happening. It's fiction.

But within the settings of that fictional story, Quinn is perpetrating a sexual assault in both moral and legal terms (at least as applicable to the US jurisdictions that I'm aware of).

Personally? I'd rather get tazed (and I know from first-hand experience how unpleasant that is) than have somebody force themselves on me sexually to that degree even in private settings, much less in the ones depicted. Because the latter goes, to me, beyond merely "unpleasant."
Let me sum up the assaults MC has undergone so far for you:
Some of this would absolutely put MC in legal trouble in real world situation, some you purposefully exaggerate.

At a (brief) glance on that short list, nothing is so explicitly predatory as what Quinn does during an already humiliating social experience that is the CUM-petition as applied to hazing (even within the fictional setting of BaDIK, the MC explicitly comments on it, and Rusty kinda-agrees with that perception later on). I have no problem with it as something done consensually between all parties involved, at all - which I believe Rusty also mentions as being engaged in by the DIKs from time to time.

The huge difference is lack of consent during the hazing, coupled with the aforementioned social pressure of that event on its own. And no, I don't think a lot of things done in real-life hazing is either moral, or something to be socially tolerated just because "tradishun."
But anyways, I am serious about your perception of "rape".
So am I, and I am seriously annoyed by people trying to downplay Quinn's actions as they are represented within the story.
My ex was a victim of rape, and it happened to her when she was just a child.
I am sorry for her, because you're not the only one who has had contact with a victim and witnessed the end results first-hand.
You need to learn what rape actually is, because you have absolutely no idea about it and make a fool out of yourself by saying this is rape.
Way to ignore the "attempted" part of the term I used.

And perhaps it is not I who should take a moment, step back, don't let personal bias toward a fictional character overrule logic, and reconsider their stance of what constitutes sexual assault and what does not.

I will not compromise on this, for exactly the same reasons you think I am somehow devaluing the term I use. We're not playing a game of "who had it worse" here, either. Sexual assault is sexual assault, and while you can get all technical about what "attempted rape" should mean in your opinion, Quinn's act remains as reprehensible as it is regardless of the label you put on it.
This story that Quinn raped the MC was simply the most absurd I have ever seen on this thread.

Some people around here really need to learn to stop and think about the shit that goes through their heads before they get out.
I generally tend to consider my words before writing them. For that matter, I never wrote that "Quinn raped the MC," either - I wrote that she attempted to.

Since you're calling for deliberation prior to posting, at the end I'd appreciate if you took a moment to consider that this disagreement started with people mocking and attempting to be offensive toward a real person because of mutually conflicting interpretation of a fictional character. One of said people hasn't even bothered to offer a shred of explanation as to why the thinly veiled accusations were issued in the first place, despite a - I thought - polite and explicit request to do so.

But hey, the internet is a wonderful place. *shrug*
 

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I don't suppose any one here would be able to recommend a decent game for me to try out that maybe I'm not aware of.
Preferably one that doesn't have me perving on my relatives. Or at the least where they at least try to not make it blatantly obvious that your perving on your family.
Yeah yeah I know that's asking alot.
So far I know of AL, BaRS, Depraved Awakening, C.o.B.D, Deluca, and Unleashed.
Those are all that come to mind.
So are there more? Or is my constant joke about there only being 5 games that don't make you screw your mom not actually a joke after all?
1) Love of magic it's one of the best game. I suggest to try that game. Especially if you like poker. No incest(or optional)
2) "the intoxicating flavor", good game but the story it's similar to LOST and a bit creepy(you will understand why). If you like psychology theme you will love it
3) Spacecorps XXX, funny game and if you love space/cyberpunk theme you will love it
4) Alison fall of the apple, it's an ok game with no incest and good mature story(a bit sad)
5) Betrayed, ok game with no incest but almost no plot. The gameplay it's original
6) Pine Falls, ok game with no incest. Mysterious story. It's inspired to the famous game "Alan Wake"
 

ogar nightelf

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I could recommend a few games. But they won't be anywhere near the quality of those you mentioned.
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But hey... You know what they say... Incest is Wincest.... I don't exactly know who says this.. But I like using it for the Memes :KEK:
Much appreciated young sensei
 

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Can we collectively push this thread more towards memes, reaction GIFs and lighthearted theorising interspersed with pictures of tits rather than dick waving and demonstrating everything we learned in high school debate about fallacies and grandiloquence?
 

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Guys it has been talked around that Acting Lessons is a sequel to BaDIK and the screenshot below proves it. o_O
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Liam and the MC were DIKs at B&R. So it's possible that in the next season or so, Liam and the MC of Acting Lessons are gonna pledge to the DIKs, if the BaDIK story continues passed a year that is. It's awesome seeing these stories connect.
I think that AL it's not a prequel or sequel. They have the same universe but different timelines. I think that because:
1) During the game you will meet a woman, Angela, from the HOTs. During the sex scene with her, she wear the HOTs uniform. Interesting note is that the colours it's different(red). I think that during AL Sage wasn't even in the college and most of the HOTs members were different girls. Maybe when Sage became the president she changed the colours of the uniform. In being a DIK you will not meet Angela, probably because she had already finish the college.
2) Liam was a member of DIKs but he didn't mention anyone we know. Same as the HOTs, during being a DIK timeline most of the old members were already gratuated and no one mentioned Liam
My conclusion is that BaDIK it's located in our times while AL was 2010. Like i said yesterday. These games are not related. I doubt that we will meet Angela or Liam
 

mindern

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I think that AL it's not a prequel or sequel. They have the same universe but different timelines. I think that because:
1) During the game you will meet a woman, Angela, from the HOTs. During the sex scene with her, she wear the HOTs uniform. Interesting note is that the colours it's different(red). I think that during AL Sage wasn't even in the college and most of the HOTs members were different girls. Maybe when Sage became the president she changed the colours of the uniform. In being a DIK you will not meet Angela, probably because she had already finish the college.
2) Liam was a member of DIKs but he didn't mention anyone we know. Same as the HOTs, during being a DIK timeline most of the old members were already gratuated and no one mentioned Liam
My conclusion is that BaDIK it's located in our times while AL was 2010. Like i said yesterday. These games are not related. I doubt that we will meet Angela or Liam
Dont some frats and sororities have multiple chapters at different universities? They could well be DIK’s and HOT’s just from separate chapters. I’m not American, not overwhelmingly familiar with how these things work so I could be missing something.
 

Ryder-Wilson

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Dont some frats and sororities have multiple chapters at different universities? They could well be DIK’s and HOT’s just from separate chapters. I’m not American, not overwhelmingly familiar with how these things work so I could be missing something.
Could be but we never meet her in the party(and we know already most of the members. The vampire girl and the blonde doll too but MC don't know anything about them)
 

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I don't suppose any one here would be able to recommend a decent game for me to try out that maybe I'm not aware of.
Not sure if anybody else mentioned either already, but Mythic Manor and Harem Hotel are both solidly on my "must play" list right beside BaDIK (even if I'm not all that taken with Mythic Manor's graphical presentation - though Harem Hotel pulls Illusion models damn well).

If you can tune out the incest, Long Live the Princess is excellent.

Ditto for Healslut. No incest so far, but a lot of parody and bizarre humor (if you enjoyed Monthy Python, you'll probably like this a lot)

Offcuts stands out for me not just because of the unique art style, but also being pretty "romantic" rather than outright sexual.

Happenstance has pretty unique setting and story. It's a mixed bag so far for me in terms of narrative, but I like the creativity of it.

Sanguine Rose for story, absolutely

Portals of Phereon for some serious management/tactical goodness, and Strive for Power for more of it

Tentacles Thrive if that's your thing - definitely unique art style and gameplay, even if it's Flash.

Aand I just broke the forum rule about advertising games in other threads. RIP. Though, in all fairness, it was asked, and isn't it a way to promote the people we leech from anyway?

I think that AL it's not a prequel or sequel. They have the same universe but different timelines.
I believe I saw somebody mention the author directly stating that while BaDIK was intended to be a prequel, when he started writing it he changed things around to make it a stand-alone title within the same universe. So, some convergence, but not meant to have much in direct association between them.

Seems legit.
 

Ryder-Wilson

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Harem Hotel it's good game but no plot. If you like Honey select girls you will love it. There is also Dark magic(with honey select girls as well) and no incest too(you will love the red witch). "Time stamps" it's a good game. Unfortunately, contains incest but it's the only game with time machine theme.
 

SpikyHair

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Can we collectively push this thread more towards memes, reaction GIFs and lighthearted theorising interspersed with pictures of tits rather than dick waving and demonstrating everything we learned in high school debate about fallacies and grandiloquence?
I am perfectly happy to agree to disagree. I don't take kindly to personal attacks on sheer principle, though.

High school is a distant memory, and I don't intend to apologize for the influence years of reading had on my style of writing.

As to restricting this discussion to lighthearted theorising... have you forgotten the warning DPK put at the start of the game?

Heavier topics will come out, and ignoring them feels like an affront to the effort the author puts into his creation. Though I can appreciate how most people would rather avoid inter-poster drama here. I'm not fond of it, either, but I think I'm allowed to state my impression of a character without getting jumped on by others (which is how this started)?

There is also Dark magic(with honey select girls as well) and no incest too(you will love the red witch).
Pretty sure Dark Magic has some incest in it, though never really could get into that one myself.

Yep, the tag is there.
 

Ilhares

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Well they do say you're never to old to go back to school. So who knows.
I can't recall all the details on it...
But I think it was something like Delta Iota Kappa is fairly new in the universe of BaDIK.
And Liam and AL's MC were far too old to have been around by that time.
Originally I recall DPC saying he wanted to make it the prequel game, but then he kinda threw that idea out the window because of things like the date and technology levels being rather different. Smartphones, especially, wouldn't have been prevalent at the time BaDIK would have to take place to blend in seamlessly to prequel Acting Lessons.

Different universe, different timeline, however you want to look at it. Not a prequel.

I've been realizing that out of all of the girls in game for me Sara is the one that stands out the most. I just cant figure out why.

Does she resemble a certain actress who I just can't place? again idk..

Hmm who knows.....
Oh, I know. She looks (to me) like she's based on a certain (former)porn actress who then went on to Game of Thrones.
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Fair enough. Thank you for taking time to elaborate on some of your view points, even if I may disagree with them :)
Once again, could you perhaps explain what is wrong with my reasoning?

This is what I originally wrote (quoted in case somebody actually cares to debate this in the first place):
And speaking of CUM-petition, Quinn pretty much attempts a rape of the MC during it. Before you start with "you can object, so it's consenshool!" she does so in a setting already putting enormous social pressure on her target. As with other examples of her "shining" personality, she's perfectly fucking aware of what she is doing (as per the dialogue with her at the time). At that time, for all the MC knows Quinn might be exactly what Arieth turns out to be, yet the brain-dead character doesn't even object to removal of the condom (news flash - you can get STDs without penetration, brah, something your dad apparently should've explicitly pointed out during "the talk"). At least we get a chance to prevent the penetration, but I do wish there was a vocal "get off my bare dick, you goddamn cunt" option there.

Since two people already mocked my choice of words (and another facepalmed the follow-up post), could somebody bother to explain what exactly I'm missing in the described situation that does not warrant the label of "attempted rape?" I find it peculiar to see such a knee-jerk reaction to some implied threat to an imaginary character's reputation.
Thank you. That makes quite a lot of sense on top of bringing out a lot of things I haven't even considered.

Much appreciated! :)
There is no reasoning here,this is someone babbling about something they have no first clue about.
I suggest you do read some of the news stories considering rape,just so you might know what the word means.
Once you do,you might realize there is nothing to "debate" here.

Cumpetition is a controlled situation,it`s a frat initiation,since you juggle between game world and real life standards here,in a real world all the MC would have to do is say "stop" and it would be over.
Quinn is well aware of what she is doing,you on the other hand are not.She is putting moves on a guy she likes,that is all,that is happening,in fact I do have an option to tease her,to go for more.
As for your attempt to shrug off,the implemented in game option to stop her - it`s a failed attempt,the option exist in fact at the very moment when she
1st - informs the MC what she is going to do,remove the condom
2nd - Tells her friend,Riona,to provide a cover - at which point every adult person should,absolutly,be aware of what`s coming
And only once the player decides NOT TO OBJECT she:
3rd - slowly inserts MC` penis
period.
 

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Few days ago someone asked about the render from banner of this thread :D

Well, here you go...:giggle:

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That picture still amuses me like there's hidden context there. What is DPC trying to say here? Maya got her hands all over Jill's delicious booty other hand not even close to her own girlfriends ass and her girlfriend Josy doesn't even have her hands around her. :ROFLMAO: Everyone else is just neutral with hands on each other's hips.
 

ogar nightelf

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Originally I recall DPC saying he wanted to make it the prequel game, but then he kinda threw that idea out the window because of things like the date and technology levels being rather different. Smartphones, especially, wouldn't have been prevalent at the time BaDIK would have to take place to blend in seamlessly to prequel Acting Lessons.

Different universe, different timeline, however you want to look at it. Not a prequel.

Oh, I know. She looks (to me) like she's based on a certain (former)porn actress who then went on to Game of Thrones.
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Maybe Idk. I lost interest in porn years ago and have never watched GoT but it could be possible i suppose from seeing random commercials or whatever.
 

Ryder-Wilson

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That picture still amuses me like there's hidden context there. What is DPC trying to say here? Maya got her hands all over Jill's delicious booty other hand not even close to her own girlfriends ass and her girlfriend doesn't even have her hands around her. :ROFLMAO: Everyone else is just neutral with hands on each other's hips.
Maybe an hidden message about the sexual interest of Maya, like you said. Developers like to do these things. Maya stealing Jill from the MC...super sad plot twist :ROFLMAO:
 

Deoku

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Maybe an hidden message about the sexual interest of Maya, like you said. Developers like to do these things. Maya stealing Jill from the MC...super sad plot twist :ROFLMAO:
Jill is straight so that wouldn't be an issue. What i was referring to is that when he made this render it was just before episode 4. Looking at it now after playing 4 it kind of tells of the inner conflict in their relationship before the resolution of episode 4. Where Josy was planning to move away from it all together and Maya was looking elsewhere. Their body language in the image kind of reflected that overall theme. :)

There was another scene or image I had got more context from as well after playing episode 4. Though this was more official since its actually in game.
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That one made a lot more sense to me after hearing her story in episode 4. At first I had originally assumed she just said it because he cheated in general, but her reaction and words make far more sense now knowing it was with Cathy at one point in the past as well.
 
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