Manuka

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In an ideal world, the author should listen to as much (constructive) criticism as he (or she, of course) can get, but he should only act on that criticism when it demonstrates that he has failed to convey his intended message to large portions of the audience.

Authors who insist on riding roughshod over their audience's wishes will eventually find themselves alone. But at the same time, trying to please EVERYONE will devolve into artwork by committee. Authors need feedback to learn how their art is interpreted, but at the end of the day that art has to originate in their own vision. They can certainly get valuable input from friends or colleagues, but they can't just farm the whole project out to the public.
And this is how it works in the literary industry, Hollywood the same--how many times have we heard stories of people getting angry about something and the next thing you see is the Artist remove their social media and publicly apologize, then a script has been revised. Does everyone remember what happened to Brian from Family Guy? There are hundreds of books that are submitted by well-known authors, and the editor goes and butchers their manuscript, changing everything around, because what was written was not popular with what people are looking for. At the end of the day, it comes down to Money. If you're not making them money, your opinion means nothing. It is very difficult to do what you want when you go public. There's no arguing that. And like DPC who said he wants to do this as a career, can't just dance to his own tune every time, this is, unfortunately, the reality of being in the public eye.
 

Zhaiel

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I'm in love with this saga. Can't wait for what's coming next! I really wanna know more about the MC background. Whatever that letter says, it has to be important...
 

Diavel

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How Many time we tell you guys that JILL IS NOT A FUTA. Here's proof

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None of these attest that, they are always either on an unrevealing angle or the shadows just don't permit certainty XD
(gawd I can't believe I'm playing the Devil's advocate on this :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: )
 
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Roelandt

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Okay...so I wanted to see if I could "get them all" in the AnO frat infiltration in Season 5. And WOW. Our MC is not just a stud...he's a super stud. Let's assume for the moment that it's...say...8pm (nighttime at a warmer time of the year given everyone's distinct lack of warm clothes in the game). Lets say he was in the in the mansion for...say 2 hours, got to Bellas at 10, gave Cathy a ride home, chatted for a bit. Played around a bit on Rooster and Swyper. Talked and snuggled with Jill a bit (probably after he'd started to go to sleep), then finally crashed. So...long night. Lets say he said goodnight to Jill at midnight or 1 or even 2 in the morning.

Okay....This dude had sex SEVEN (7) times from 8pm to about 11. Then even got Nicole off on Swyper just for good measure before making out and grinding a bit with Jill. HOLY COW DUDE!

I wanted to see if I could make it with all the girls in a single playthrough. It took several hours of experimentation (I kept missing Riona here and there, and even Camilla a few times). The rest are on the track and were pretty easy.

1. Riona on the balcony while looking for clothes to blend in.
1.jpg

2. Mel and Sara in the hot tub (while Heather watches).
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3. Camilla in the conference room. And no...he didn't need to pay!
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4. Lilly. Well, even bringing Tequila, he needed to pay this time. Jeez Louise, dude!
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5. Sage in another VERY LONG scene (I reasonably sure DrPink loves Sage. All her scenes are quite long).
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6. Josey or Maya (but not both...guys gotta have SOME LIMITS). NOTE: He goes for a long, Sage length romp with Josey.
6a.jpg 6b.jpg

7. Cathy. Holy cow! And the hits just keep ooooon comin'.
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8. Nicole. Oh no...our hero isn't done yet. He gets one more girl off sexting before going to sleep!
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9. Jill. Wakie wakie! "Couldn't sleep you sweet thing? Lets have some snuggles!" If she hadn't stopped him...holy bases loaded, Batman!
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So officially sex with 7 girls, one girl he orgasmed sexting, and he was ready to rock with Jill after she woke him up! That's just...superhuman!
 
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mindern

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Except we're not talking about people being critical of their writing style, their character development, or pointing out plotholes and plot contrivances, but about allowing a vocal few to dictate the direction and events of the story.

If certain people don't like a certain character and would want to see them get killed off or otherwise removed from the story, DPC should not ever listen to those people if he doesn't plan on doing that because it is not up to them to tell him what he should and shouldn't do with his characters. The same thing if people start asking for some kind of sexual kink like BDSM or incest; if DPC doesn't plan on doing it, then he shouldn't do it just because some people might want it.
I think this story is already being influenced by a vocal minority, if not by direct communications but by an assumption based on past patreon projects.

I’m firmly of the opinion certain characters are hamstrung by a weird desire to not step on people’s toes when it comes to showing them in an actual functioning relationship. The bizarre “it’s NTR if anyone who isn’t the MC is involved with a character” idea is the kinda shit I don’t want influencing this story and it’s making it worse in places. Maya/Josy are making all these decisions about their relationship with MC based on the risk of losing each other but are never allowed to actually be with one another because that would be NTR. They will never be able to prioritise each other here and the story won’t be three people in a relationship it will be two girls in a relationship with the same man.

Sage staying with Chad despite him being so cold with her is another one. I don’t want to see these LI with other people but why write them in relationships only to go a country mile out of your way to specifically never have them do anything.

How much more sense would Sage make if Chad was actually a functioning boyfriend? Someone cheating but still with her. How much more realistic would the whole Maya/Josy no strings idea be if they had a healthy relationship to jeopardise?

Again, I’m no fan of watching LI’s with other partners but NTR looms over all patreon VNs and it’s starting to limit basic design space as writers desperately avoid anything remotely close to it.
 

AvatarStormBringer

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I think this story is already being influenced by a vocal minority, if not by direct communications but by an assumption based on past patreon projects.

I’m firmly of the opinion certain characters are hamstrung by a weird desire to not step on people’s toes when it comes to showing them in an actual functioning relationship. The bizarre “it’s NTR if anyone who isn’t the MC is involved with a character” idea is the kinda shit I don’t want influencing this story and it’s making it worse in places. Maya/Josy are making all these decisions about their relationship with MC based on the risk of losing each other but are never allowed to actually be with one another because that would be NTR. They will never be able to prioritise each other here and the story won’t be three people in a relationship it will be two girls in a relationship with the same man.

Sage staying with Chad despite him being so cold with her is another one. I don’t want to see these LI with other people but why write them in relationships only to go a country mile out of your way to specifically never have them do anything.

How much more sense would Sage make if Chad was actually a functioning boyfriend? Someone cheating but still with her. How much more realistic would the whole Maya/Josy no strings idea be if they had a healthy relationship to jeopardise?

Again, I’m no fan of watching LI’s with other partners but NTR looms over all patreon VNs and it’s starting to limit basic design space as writers desperately avoid anything remotely close to it.
That definition of NTR is just bollocks. If we're going by that definition and the dev swears off NTR, his MC cannot peek into other people have sex or even watch porn, EVER!
 

bigdick289

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Is it normal that my favorites right now are Camila (#1), the two teachers and Nicole the stripper? xD

I really hope in the future episodes, we can get to know more of at least Camila, from fuck friend to real dirty official relationship.
 

Wizard_Shiryuu

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Okay...so I wanted to see if I could "get them all" in the AnO frat infiltration in Season 5. And WOW. Our MC is not just a stud...he's a super stud. Let's assume for the moment that it's...say...8pm (nighttime at a warmer time of the year given everyone's distinct lack of warm clothes in the game). Lets say he was in the in the mansion for...say 2 hours, got to Bellas at 10, gave Cathy a ride home, chatted for a bit. Played around a bit on Rooster and Swyper. Talked and snuggled with Jill a bit (probably after he'd started to go to sleep), then finally crashed. So...long night. Lets say he said goodnight to Jill at midnight or 1 or even 2 in the morning.

Okay....This dude had sex SEVEN (7) times from 8pm to about 11. Then even got Nicole off on Swyper just for good measure before making out and grinding a bit with Jill. HOLY COW DUDE!

I wanted to see if I could make it with all the girls in a single playthrough. It took several hours of experimentation (I kept missing Riona here and there, and even Camilla a few times. The rest are on the track and were pretty easy.

1. Riona on the balcony while looking for clothes to blend in.
View attachment 750049

2. Mel and Sara in the hot tub (while Heather watches).
View attachment 750050

3. Camilla in the conference room. And no...he didn't need to pay!
View attachment 750053

4. Lilly. Well, he needed to pay this time. Jeez Louise, dude!
View attachment 750060

5. Sage in another VERY LONG scene (I reasonably sure DrPink loves Sage. All her scenes are quite long).
View attachment 750069

6. Josey or Maya (but not both...guys gotta have SOME LIMITS). NOTE: He goes for a long, Sage length romp with Josey.
View attachment 750073 View attachment 750075

7. Cathy. Holy cow! And the hits just keep ooooon comin'.
View attachment 750080

8. Nicole. Oh no...our hero isn't done yet. He gets one more girl off sexting before going to sleep!
View attachment 750085

9. Jill. Wakie wakie! "Couldn't sleep you sweet thing? Lets have some snuggles!" If she hadn't stopped him...holy bases loaded, Batman!
View attachment 750087

So officially sex with 7 girls, on girl he orgasmed sexting, and he was ready to rock with Jill after she woke him up! That's just...superhuman!
To me this episode's Sage scene was the best in the game. But now what? I don't know how you can keep Sage's scenes fresh from now on. It looks like we've done everything already.
 

Holy Bacchus

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Okay...so I wanted to see if I could "get them all" in the AnO frat infiltration in Season 5. And WOW. Our MC is not just a stud...he's a super stud. Let's assume for the moment that it's...say...8pm (nighttime at a warmer time of the year given everyone's distinct lack of warm clothes in the game). Lets say he was in the in the mansion for...say 2 hours, got to Bellas at 10, gave Cathy a ride home, chatted for a bit. Played around a bit on Rooster and Swyper. Talked and snuggled with Jill a bit (probably after he'd started to go to sleep), then finally crashed. So...long night. Lets say he said goodnight to Jill at midnight or 1 or even 2 in the morning.

Okay....This dude had sex SEVEN (7) times from 8pm to about 11. Then even got Nicole off on Swyper just for good measure before making out and grinding a bit with Jill. HOLY COW DUDE!

I wanted to see if I could make it with all the girls in a single playthrough. It took several hours of experimentation (I kept missing Riona here and there, and even Camilla a few times). The rest are on the track and were pretty easy.

1. Riona on the balcony while looking for clothes to blend in.
View attachment 750049

2. Mel and Sara in the hot tub (while Heather watches).
View attachment 750050

3. Camilla in the conference room. And no...he didn't need to pay!
View attachment 750053

4. Lilly. Well, he needed to pay this time. Jeez Louise, dude!
View attachment 750060

5. Sage in another VERY LONG scene (I reasonably sure DrPink loves Sage. All her scenes are quite long).
View attachment 750069

6. Josey or Maya (but not both...guys gotta have SOME LIMITS). NOTE: He goes for a long, Sage length romp with Josey.
View attachment 750073 View attachment 750075

7. Cathy. Holy cow! And the hits just keep ooooon comin'.
View attachment 750080

8. Nicole. Oh no...our hero isn't done yet. He gets one more girl off sexting before going to sleep!
View attachment 750085

9. Jill. Wakie wakie! "Couldn't sleep you sweet thing? Lets have some snuggles!" If she hadn't stopped him...holy bases loaded, Batman!
View attachment 750087

So officially sex with 7 girls, one girl he orgasmed sexting, and he was ready to rock with Jill after she woke him up! That's just...superhuman!
Well, if you want to talk about the maximum number of times he can ejaculate, it's actually 6, not 7, and that's by having Massive DIK status and not being with M&J. However, the MC can have more sex on the Neutral/CHICK status and being with M&J as that's 4 times compared to 3 on the other path. Also, you can't get all 9 of these on one playthrough and the Jill one doesn't lead to any sexual act that results in orgasm for either of them and he doesn't ejaculate when sexting Nicole, so those don't really count.

So, to be a bit nitpicky, it's actually more like this:

Massive DIK Status, Not With M&JNeutral/CHICK Status, With M&J
Riona: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Riona: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Melanie & Sarah: HJ/BJ, +1 ejaculation​
Camila: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Camila: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Lily: BJ/tip penetration, +1 ejaculation​
Lily: BJ/tip penetration, +1 ejaculation​
Sage: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Sage: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Maya or Josy: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Cathy: BJ, +1 ejaculation​
Sex = 3, Ejaculation = 6
Sex = 4, Ejaculation = 5
 

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Well, if you want to talk about the maximum number of times he can ejaculate, it's actually 6, not 7, and that's by having Massive DIK status and not being with M&J. However, the MC can have more sex on the Neutral/CHICK status and being with M&J as that's 4 times compared to 3 on the other path. Also, you can't get all 9 of these on one playthrough and the Jill one doesn't lead to any sexual act that results in orgasm for either of them and he doesn't ejaculate when sexting Nicole, so those don't really count.

So, to be a bit nitpicky, it's actually more like this:

Massive DIK Status, Not With M&JNeutral/CHICK Status, With M&J
Riona: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Riona: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Melanie & Sarah: HJ/BJ, +1 ejaculation​
Camila: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Camila: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Lily: BJ/tip penetration, +1 ejaculation​
Lily: BJ/tip penetration, +1 ejaculation​
Sage: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Sage: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Maya or Josy: +1 sex, +1 ejaculation​
Cathy: BJ, +1 ejaculation​
Sex = 3, Ejaculation = 6
Sex = 4, Ejaculation = 5
So which of you is actually correct?
 
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Is it normal that my favorites right now are Camila (#1), the two teachers and Nicole the stripper? xD

I really hope in the future episodes, we can get to know more of at least Camila, from fuck friend to real dirty official relationship.
O̶l̶d̶ ̶b̶o̶o̶b̶s̶ Nicole is pretty chill, I'll give you that. Not sure about Camila, though. That relationship would have to be REALLY open, she's basically willing to fuck anyone.
 
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