VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[Warped77]

I mean theres still a chance that this game gets some kind of pseudo NTR in the form of Bella's husband. If he returned it wouldn't be NTR because your not going steady with Bella but people would call it that anyways.

If he returns at this point, we might need a 'supernatural' tag.

 

[AchedCroissant]

If he returns at this point, we might need a 'supernatural' tag.

Or Zombie

 

[ItsNotMeToo]

If he returns at this point, we might need a 'supernatural' tag.

Or Zombie

What's to say that her husband didn't cheat on her / leave her, or that perhaps she did? Didn't she says she 'forgave him' or something along those lines?

 

[Jackie123]

soo has there been a new status update? havent been in this thread for quite a time now.... also couldnt find it with the search bar btw..

 

[Cabin Fever]

I'm quite sure Bella's husband only left but isn't dead. She's alluded to "when will he return?" at least once. This being DPC, something that important can't be a mistake.

 

[Warped77]

What's to say that her husband didn't cheat on her / leave her, or that perhaps she did? Didn't she says she 'forgave him' or something along those lines?

I'm quite sure Bella's husband only left but isn't dead. She's alluded to "when will he return?" at least once. This being DPC, something that important can't be a mistake.

I agree... I was just joking because of the 'dead husband' theories. Relax.

That said... if she was crazy enough to murder her husband with an axe, she certainly could be crazy enough to be in denial about it...

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Funnily enough, I get the feeling this game is slowly but steadily trying to steer away from those established norms.
At least that's the impression I got from some of MC's inner monologues and conversations he has with some of the characters.
I don't believe the game will ever prevent or block you from pursuing all LIs, as well as all existing side girls, but I sure as fuck hope there will be consequences to that.

If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.

 

[flippityflop]

If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.

What happened in AL was just... lazy, for the lack of a better word.

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.

 

[Warped77]

If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.

My assumption is that if there will be consequences for all the MC's whoring around (at least in the form of very, very angry LIs) we'll get fair warning first. So far, we've had no indication from any of the girls that the MC needs to stop 'dating around'. Maya and Josy give the MC a free pass while they're 'exploring' whatever the throuple is going to turn into, Jill and the MC talk about the fact he's seeing other girls before the tennis date, Sage obviously isn't going to throw a fit at this point since she's trying to pretend that its purely a sexual relationship, and Bella... well... Bella is a married woman, so she doesn't really have a leg to stand on as far as the MC being 'faithful' once they reach the point where they get physical.

At some point late in the story we may have to choose one relationship (monogamous or polyamorous), and at that point I'd expect the girls to make it very clear that they expect the MC to be faithful. If he's not after that, then, yeah.. bring on the consequences. I just don't see us being 'blindsided' with consequences before that point. Hell, you're probably right that even after a fair warning, the consequences might not be that severe because... porn game... but the various good/bad relationship endings of AL make me think otherwise.

 

[felicemastronzo]

If DPC's intention is try to and reinvent the wheel, then have it, but I'd argue that a great appeal of these adult games is that any and all consequences are rarely, if ever, all that severe for the MC. It's what caused a lot of the controversy with AL because there was real consequence there, albeit with the biggest one being completely out of the control of the player.

These games and VNs are pure escapism wish fulfillment where even the most dire of circumstances have a way out of them that doesn't result in devastating consequences for the MC or other characters close to them. Pulling on the emotional heartsrings is one thing, but upending the MC's entire life with very serious consequences is not something I think people really respond well too and we saw that with AL, so we'll see how far DPC wants to push it this time.

starting from the premise that in these games the concept of "perceived" NTR seems to be a very diluted version, it seems to me practically impossible that the game can end without it.

if MC fails with Maya and Josy there will be 99% NTR (not 100% because I believe the couple could break out anyway, but I remain humble)

if MC fails with Bella there will most likely be NTR

if MC fails with Sage there will probably be NTR

at present only with Jill there is no risk of this scenario, but the suitors are not lacking

and personally it also seems right to me, otherwise the girls we don't care about or with whom we fail should disappear into oblivion

 

[Warped77]

What happened in AL was just... lazy, for the lack of a better word.

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.

I'm pretty sure Bacchus was talking about the relationship consequences in AL, not 'the choice' (which we get it... you hate). More relevant is whether you bang the bar sluts, the nurse, and/or your ex. At the end, the LI you're with finds out... some get upset about it, some don't, and with certain girls it can lead to exactly what you're talking about, with your chosen LI doing precisely what you said... 'telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants'.

So, DPC has absolutely already set that precendent.

The Derek thing I could absolutely see happening, too... and yes, it would bet a total gut-punch, especially if you chose him to stay with in Ch4.

 

[xsssssssss]

What happened in AL was just... lazy, for the lack of a better word.

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.

I’m curious to see degree of choice impacts outside of who MC ends up with.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Funnily enough, I get the feeling this game is slowly but steadily trying to steer away from those established norms.
At least that's the impression I got from some of MC's inner monologues and conversations he has with some of the characters.
I don't believe the game will ever prevent or block you from pursuing all LIs, as well as all existing side girls, but I sure as fuck hope there will be consequences to that.

This is surely not a harem game, dont worry, there will consequences, no doubt about it. and the game is already preventing you from, one specific path. the threesome, or polygamy path with Josy and Maya. whether there will be optional solo route for them, is yet to be seen, but i won't be surprised, if the "let's just be friend", and later confirming your decision to derek, about that "you moved on", decisions is in fact a dead end for Josy and Maya. Acting Lessons, allowed the player to close down relationships, I don't see reason to believe Badik would be different. However, AL was a much shorter game, so I can see that Badik will allow the player to be more flexible, and these permanent decision will come out later, after all we are still in early stage, as much as a surprise for some people, considering that we soon to be at ep6 .

 

[ChipLecsap]

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.

I can definitely see this happening eventually. But as I said, not this early. Right now I'm more worried about the Chick/Dick meter, if in every episode we have a major decision, soon there will be no decision left.
it would be nice to see an answer about this from DPC.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

By consequences I meant a main LI telling you to take a hike because you couldn't keep it in your pants.
Or, in more extreme cases, something like ruining your relationship with Derek, because you broke his sister's heart and stole her girlfriend. If it ever comes to that.

We had that in AL too when Leah reveals all the stuff the MC has done with other girls and it obliterates any chance at a relationship with Megan or Melissa, and that didn't go down well either.

Upsetting the established order of the MC's life and essentially giving players a "jerk MC" ending, even if he has objectively been a bit of a jerk, is a low blow for people who want to have a little bit of their cake and eat it too. Even if they can't get everyone, they at least want to get someone and without having a massive blowup with the ones they don't get. It may not accurately reflect real life, but it's not meant to and that's what makes these games so appealing.

 

[xsssssssss]

starting from the premise that in these games the concept of "perceived" NTR seems to be a very diluted version, it seems to me practically impossible that the game can end without it.

if MC fails with Maya and Josy there will be 99% NTR (not 100% because I believe the couple could break out anyway, but I remain humble)

if MC fails with Bella there will most likely be NTR

if MC fails with Sage there will probably be NTR

at present only with Jill there is no risk of this scenario, but the suitors are not lacking

and personally it also seems right to me, otherwise the girls we don't care about or with whom we fail should disappear into oblivion

To be fair he did it with Rena in AL so hardly should be big issue
I’d like to see character epilogues for main and side
So etc Jill/mc(positive), Jill set up with rusty(positive), Jill lonely (slightly sad)

 

[RustyRug]

Now I wish I wasn't poor so I can actually support this dude. Looking forward to its completion.

Haha same

 

[felicemastronzo]

This is surely not a harem game, dont worry, there will consequences, no doubt about it. and the game is already preventing you from, one specific path. the threesome, or polygamy path with Josy and Maya. whether there will be optional solo route for them, is yet to be seen, but i won't be surprised, if the "let's just be friend", and later confirming your decision to derek, about that "you moved on", decisions is in fact a dead end for Josy and Maya. Acting Lessons, allowed the player to close down relationships, I don't see reason to believe Badik would be different. However, AL was a much shorter game, so I can see that Badik will allow the player to be more flexible, and these permanent decision will come out later, after all we are still in early stage, as much as a surprise for some people, considering that we soon to be at ep6 .

such a situation is acceptable for the linearity of the game, and it is likely to be so

but I wouldn't talk about consequences, cause and effect

the player could be forced to accept the path of friendship only (it is not that the refusal gives pleasure), and also letting go of the confusion of the moment, why should he confess to the brother of one of the two girls what he feels?

 

[Warped77]

To be fair he did it with Rena in AL so hardly should be big issue
I’d like to see character epilogues for main and side
So etc Jill/mc(positive), Jill set up with rusty(positive), Jill lonely (slightly sad)

You forgot 'Jill set up with Derek'. Now THAT would be hilarious.

 

[Warped77]

why should he confess to the brother of one of the two girls what he feels?

He's talking about conversations that already happened in Chapter 5...