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Yes she does not have one because there is no story of her own .And people say Josy lacks character.
imfaooo why the denial though , i dont get it
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imfaooo why the denial though , i dont get it
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Ultimately, I just want my choices to matter and equality between LIs.
However, DPC has other plans like forcing us to go study with M&J at the library, forcing us to play D&G (these 2 have nothing to do with their relationship or the overall story and we are still forced into it), forcing a DIK MC to be buthurt and sad in ep4 etc. (Have in mind that these are views of a Full DIK player) Concluding:
However, DPC has other plans like forcing us to go study with M&J at the library, forcing us to play D&G (these 2 have nothing to do with their relationship or the overall story and we are still forced into it), forcing a DIK MC to be buthurt and sad in ep4 etc. (Have in mind that these are views of a Full DIK player) Concluding:
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come on...I know, I don't do Bella, you can have your Forced psycho relationship
The point I was making is that they are not more forced on you , than the We had to spend the night with Bella and Jill, and make pancake in the morning, whereas I rather go to home and Fuck my two bisexual bitch .
but you don't hear me complain about it
MC goes to Bella to talk to Cathe for the sake of the DIKs, Bella and Jill have nothing to do with it, they just welcome him.
instead then at the end of the sixth chapter you have to run to Maya, called by Josy, to hear the story of the father's ultimatum for the umpteenth time (the details on the loan were of interest to anyone?)
Jill has a problem, a problem that MC has generated, and she is facing it herself (for now)
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About the critics on the writing, let's remember the recent Cyberpunk 2077:
I think it's still too short to gun at DPC writing; let's see how the season end. He now have serious hardware and fund to back his ambition. It's probably the greatest and most engaging VN's to date and that's why we so passionate about it.
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I think it's still too short to gun at DPC writing; let's see how the season end. He now have serious hardware and fund to back his ambition. It's probably the greatest and most engaging VN's to date and that's why we so passionate about it.
In the very beginning of Ep 6, when you are talking with Tommy, right before the major choice, the conversation seems to randomly cut to Vinny for a few lines and then returns to you and Tommy. Is this supposed to play out like this or does my game somehow have a glitch?
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Don't try dude
It's no use explaining this to Josy/Maya fans lol
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True. to be fair, if we playing the "faithful" playstyle with any of the love interest, the experience is rather boring in almost every route. Jill is the most, then ,may be Josy or Bella
Sage is definitely is the best if you do a solo girl route.
that is also a little problem with the game in my opinion, it's a porn game after all, we are here for the content. DPC can't expect people to create at least 5 save just for the girls, and 3 others for the affinity system to be able to get the game content.
May be there are some hardcore fans who does it, Im not oen of them.
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you divide the blame equally between them, but what MC says are bullshit, while what Josy says is a very human response ...
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Easy answer; we're playing as the MC. What we're doing in these VNs/games is guiding the MC along whatever path we want for them, but we don't have full autonomous control. Some things will be forced upon them no matter what we do, but in most cases we'll simply decide the result of something and not whether it happens in the first place.
However, these results can and should make sense when measured against certain previous choices and this is where this game doesn't always do well. The M&J thing, for example, should have played out in 2 different ways; the way it already does if you avoided all the optional content with them, and the 2 of them not getting back together so easily if you did all/most optional content with them. If the MC doesn't go back to Maya after the party and finger her, stay with Josy, and stay with Maya, then it might be more understandable that they kiss and make up like they do, but by doing everything or most things with them, they should be more conflicted. These choices should have weighed more heavily on the outcome than the Affinity.
Bella and Jill are also forced but you don't hear anybody complaining about that.
No, it isn't. If you're complaining about how it plays out, that it should have played out differently depending on the choices you make, then fair enough, but complaining that it exists in the first place is not something that is fair game to complain about.
Them being in his life and him being involved in theirs is a key part to the story, and you just have to accept that.
There are 3 other LIs who have stories of their own and yet we've been shown more of who Josy is as a character and we know more about her than we do these other LIs.
Some people clearly aren't paying close enough attention.
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Personal?lets not get personal, Shall we ?!
Anyways dude we are discussing a porn game here lol
Chill!
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I would agree with that absolutely, but in reality having choices always mean that:
- Either we could just skip some parts, which would make the game feel shorter.
- Or the dev would make 2 more or less equal branches, doubling the amount of work.
In "Acting Lessons" there were large branches & rich choices, lots of developer's efforts; but in the end the game felt a bit short.
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true, but with the others there are some "prizes"True. to be fair, if we playing the "faithful" playstyle with any of the love interest, the experience is rather boring in almost every route. Jill is the most, then ,may be Josy or Bella
Sage is definitely is the best if you do a solo girl route.
that is also a little problem with the game in my opinion, it's a porn game after all, we are here for the content. DPC can't expect people to create at least 5 save just for the girls, and 3 others for the affinity system to be able to get the game content.
May be there are some hardcore fans who does it, Im not oen of them.
meanwhile, you have no remorse about your sentimental situation, moreover you fully attend the LI you have chosen without having to suffer from forced choices (if you have chosen Jill it is not a problem not to go to Sage, and vice versa)
instead as a "friend" of Maya and Josy what do you get?
what is the consolation prize?
a message for the birthday and no help to tidy up the house (the latter would have been an excellent opportunity for some meaningful dialogue with one of the two)
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A story can have "inconsequential" choices and still be well written, as long as those options and minor changes fit in the story and the way you're carried back to the main road has an internal logic that lets you accept that some forced events happen regardless your prior choices. When you make some choice and then the story throws you to a point where you can't honestly understand how your MC turned up there after making that choice, or your MC plainly contradicts that choice moments later without any logical reason, then you have bad writing.
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Now I'm definitely sure that we are playing different games
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You somehow, Missing the whole Quinn's restaurant, Free tuition plot storyline. Regardless of your involvement with Maya, that is a storyline She is connected to it, so She calling MC after She finally find out its a lie, is a main storyline element, dont you think?
Yeah we could slice this down too, Why MC actually never tell Her what he knows. But it is what it is. But it was about time to have a conclusion to that storyline. I wonder where her journey lead from this
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I agree with your overarching point but there's one element you missed. Her decision to live with Maya. She called the MC and asked if she could stay with him and when he turns her down she goes straight to living with Maya. Granted her choices were limited but she clearly had a foot in both camps long before the MC snapped at her.
Like you said, both to blame but if we’re discussing exactly when Josy “dropped” the MC I would argue it’s ambiguous whether the MC storming out forced her hand or if she was leaning towards staying with Maya anyways.
Her first choice was the MC. Living with a guy would kinda be a big fuck you to her girlfriend and be tricky to walk back. Conversely living with her partner is a fairly big indication she didn’t intend to leave Maya quite yet.
It all tracks (in my opinion) with exactly what Josy herself says if you choose to be friends after her conversation with her dad. She had loving feelings for two people and went back and forth on who she wanted to be with. They were all confused and handled it poorly. Josy knew she could be happy with both of them but was afraid so MC walking away in a huff gave her an out. Forced her hand on a decision she wasn’t willing to make. She never used him, she was in two minds and he forced her hand.
still a cheater, and I’m not opening that can of worms again, but that’s a separate issue to her using the MC.
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but what does the restaurant have to do with Josy's call?
Maya doesn't talk about it, and she doesn't know anything about it. MC going there continues to know what he knew before.
that the free tuition was little more than a chat everyone knew, Josy is forced to remind Maya
what changes in the overall storyline that MC runs there to ask Maya for the umpteenth time to be honest with him and Maya for the umpteenth time tell us how bad and unreliable her father is?
what use is the presence of MC there for girls? Josy is Maya's girlfriend but she has to call MC otherwise she doesn't know what to do
it is evident that it only serves to bring MC to Maya's father (or at least to make us think that it could happen), to involve him again in a problem not his own.
and you want me to compare this situation to the forced stay at Bella's house?
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The forced moments are fine so long as aspects of them better reflect the choices made, i.e. dialogue and scene variations. The problem is that certain moments don't have this and they end up creating this feeling of inconsistent and inexplicable behaviour from certain characters involved in them.
But some players who have largely avoided both might not have wanted to spend the night with Bella and Jill, so is this not also a forced element? Just because the MC went there of his own volition doesn't mean it's any less forced than going to see M&J after Josy called him, especially if you weren't able to stay with Bella in Ep 4. By the logic of this anti-M&J brigade, the MC should have been able to decide if he went to Bella's or not since the problem they seem to have is that they don't have total control over what the MC does.
Ummmm, no. It's Tommy remembering Vinny doing something similar to what the MC is doing.
Someone here once did literally complain about why their MC went to play the guitar for Jill in Ep 3 when they didn't want to do that because they hadn't been friendly with Jill.
That was a forced element because, NEWSFLASH, this game is majority forced elements, that's what a VN generally is. Just because you don't like forced elements with certain characters doesn't mean that they shouldn't be forced. It's like that way for a reason, namely that it's important for the overal story, so you'd better just suck it up and accept that.