Hermith

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There really should be more love for Sage. She's the one with her shit together. While every other female character in the game is making excuses Sage is getting shit done. She's drug-free. She's not fucking everyone. She's not all about herself. She's not a liar, a cheater, or a thief. The worst thing that can be said about her is she was angry and hurt that she was being cheated on by Chad.

Meanwhile, Josy is a useless simp, Maya is a whining simp, Jill is a debutante, and Bella is batshit crazy. Quinn is messed up. None of the other characters matter because the MC won't be riding off into the sunset with any of them. Screw this MC saves the world crap. Hook up with Sage and run like the wind. Leave the rest of them to their own devices.
While Sage is clearly one of my favorite girls I think you are kinda overestimating her here. Yes, she is the one with her shit together, but don't forget that for Sage the mc is pretty much just a fuck buddy and/or a pair of shoulders to lean on and even after all the shit for some reason her heart is still aching for Chad.

Maybe that'll change in the next chapters, but up till now the mc was a convenient "baseball bat" for Sage.
 
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Zirael Q

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I'm kinda upset that I missed this comment when you posted it. I agree with a lot of what you said here. While I do feel for Maya and her situation because nobody deserves to be outcasted for sexual preference, her issues pale in comparison with Quinns.
Chances are, if you took any of the other main or side LI's, with exception to maybe Lily, and Riona, and put them in an upbringing similar to Quinn's, they wouldn't make it out of high school much less college.
Well, nobody knows how ohers would do in her shoes for certain but Quinn's situation is the hardest one to get through so far. If you don't have an extraordinary skill, idk, like being gifted in sports, art etc. there is sadly no way of escaping that life. There are examples of those in football, basketball etc. Players coming from ghettos, leaving gang life behind... She must have at least some smarts, since she was able to get accepted to B&R, even as a reject. And we can be pretty sure she didn't get in because of rich parents option :HideThePain: We need to learn more about her past. Especially what happened to her father and when did that happen
 

felicemastronzo

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The only reason to associate with Quinn is because it’s a porn game and we want to fuck her.
But even if we can’t blame them, we shouldn’t have to tolerate them, and in real life, I wouldn’t tolerate someone like Quinn.
but doesn't that also apply to all LIs?
of course at a lower level eh

but none of the LIs represent the ideal girl (leaving aside the aesthetic aspect) they are all 5 very problematic girls

It's not for everyone to have the patience to stand by Maya and Jill.
to have the confidence in one's feelings to handle someone like Sage (maybe now the situation has changed but I wouldn't be sure) is not for everyone
having the confidence to sleep at night dealing with Josy is not for everyone

Bella in reality I think would represent a more complicated case maybe even than Quinn... It's hard to say in absolute terms given the little we know about Bella.

Is there so much difference between wanting to be the white knight who defends Maya from the abuse that life and her weak character has put her through and wanting to be the negotiator who saves Quinn from the abyss that life and her bad choices are putting her in?

I am a weakling, but I repeat that in Mc's situation I would have bet Asley or Mona with very little doubt.
 

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There really should be more love for Sage. She's the one with her shit together. While every other female character in the game is making excuses Sage is getting shit done. She's drug-free. She's not fucking everyone. She's not all about herself. She's not a liar, a cheater, or a thief. The worst thing that can be said about her is she was angry and hurt that she was being cheated on by Chad.

Meanwhile, Josy is a useless simp, Maya is a whining simp, Jill is a debutante, and Bella is batshit crazy. Quinn is messed up. None of the other characters matter because the MC won't be riding off into the sunset with any of them. Screw this MC saves the world crap. Hook up with Sage and run like the wind. Leave the rest of them to their own devices.
See, If she is your favourite girl and you prefer her more than anyone else then we respect that, but "Josy is a useless simp" [ I wonder what ChipLecsap would say :unsure:] "Maya is a whining simp, Jill is a debutante, and Bella is batshit crazy. Quinn is messed up" I would take that as you are trying to start a world war 3 on f95zone. Your SAGE is not a SUPER OMG PERFECT girl either I would say. Like you want every girl fandom to tear your and each other asses!!! Like there are more than 6k+ pages with atleast 1k+ full of shit and I wouldn't want to read all the toxicity for another 1k pages.
But there is a solution for you, go ahead make your game "Being With Sage" , which would contain all sage moments, no useless simp, no whinning wimp, no one batshit crazy , no one messed up and no debutante.
 

Zamastro

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Bella is batshit crazy.
What? Any proof?

Sage. She's the one with her shit together.
Are you sure about that champ? Every girl have their own shits.

Josy is a good character. Maya also good. Jill?.. well u true about that but '' She's not all about herself. She's not a liar, a cheater, or a thief. But she is naive.. '' Bella is batshit crazy? Lmao.. Yea imagine being DPC and making main LI to just crazy-killer
Quinn is messed up? True and still she's a good written character like Bella or any other girl.

Stop shitting other game characters just because u love another character. In the end u can end with Sage. Meanwhile the other people can choose their own girls.
 

Alfagrem

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I said it before, I'll say it again. The problem is Quinn's attitude to them and Maya. If Quinn wasn't a "mean bitch" to others, didn't fuck with Maya, didn't show she didn't care what others think about her, didn't fuck with people they wouldn't at least act that way. Saw some people saying she should get killed and thrown inside garbage truck :FacePalm: Because of her attitude, when people decide to shit on her they automatically throw the drug and restaurant cards in. Half of the characters in the game use drugs, almost every DIK used the reastaurant at least once, mind you.
Basically every other character is relatable whatever they do in their eyes, except Quinn. Someone with a drug dealer father and a junkie mother who used so much crack she lost her senses. She doesn't recognize her own daughter. Her dad is either in jail or got killed. Her father's best friend/partner, essentially their "family friend" is her "supplier" now. She was born into this life and she had no choice. She grew up in that house. Now she goes back there to get supplies and sell them so she can make a living with her "cut".
We also don't know when she lost her dad. Cuz after that point, she couldn't rely on anyone anymore.

But hey, fuck her sideways. She doesn't deserve empathy, she obviously chose that life you know. She should have known better and leave that life behind her when she was 6 years old, after she learnt how to read and write.

Meanwhile, let's all emphatize with Maya, she's gone through hell, what did she to do to deserve this? If we do a recap, I believe she has both her parents and a twin brother who is and was there all her life. Yeah, her father is a cunt, but he's still there. She has something can be called "family". When did her issues start with her dad? A few years ago? When she discovered her sexual identity and started a relationship with Josy.
Like all this was not enough, poor thing believed Quinn of all girls that a free tuition existed, didn't even bother asking the actual person who was responsible with how things went around the frat house. Imagine going through this for a month meanwhile getting support and help from Josy and MC. Now Sage decided to help her honestly too.

What the fuck is what Quinn went through compared to that? She is a criminal needs to be shunned, locked up, even killed.
The main thing that turned me off of Quinn was her attempted rape of me/MC during the cumpetition.

If she had the bodytype of a Wendy then I'm pretty sure that the event would of been more prominent but I think the "but she's hot" filter somehow gets her a free pass.
 

carlosrm

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For those who have returned to playing from the beginning. How has your vision of the characters changed, considering that you already know the story and what is going to happen?
Do you play with more caution? Are you starting to connect the dots? How is your gaming experience now?
 

Walter Victor

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There really should be more love for Sage. She's the one with her shit together. While every other female character in the game is making excuses Sage is getting shit done. She's drug-free. She's not fucking everyone. She's not all about herself. She's not a liar, a cheater, or a thief. The worst thing that can be said about her is she was angry and hurt that she was being cheated on by Chad.
You forgot Sage's major fault [or maybe you didn't forget ;)]: She trusts Quinn! The only reason that the dope pushing and the prostitution ring exist is because Sage defaults too much responsibility to her closest friend, who certainly takes full advantage of that trust.
 

Zirael Q

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The main thing that turned me off of Quinn was her attempted rape of me/MC during the cumpetition.

If she had the bodytype of a Wendy then I'm pretty sure that the event would of been more prominent but I think the "but she's hot" filter somehow gets her a free pass.
ah yes, she attempted to rape MC :FacePalm: :FacePalm: :FacePalm: :FacePalm: :FacePalm: :FacePalm: pretty traumatizing course of events, I agree. MC should count as a rape victim at this point and press charges :4Head:
 

shazba

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There really should be more love for Sage. She's the one with her shit together. While every other female character in the game is making excuses Sage is getting shit done. She's drug-free. She's not fucking everyone. She's not all about herself. She's not a liar, a cheater, or a thief. The worst thing that can be said about her is she was angry and hurt that she was being cheated on by Chad.

Meanwhile, Josy is a useless simp, Maya is a whining simp, Jill is a debutante, and Bella is batshit crazy. Quinn is messed up. None of the other characters matter because the MC won't be riding off into the sunset with any of them. Screw this MC saves the world crap. Hook up with Sage and run like the wind. Leave the rest of them to their own devices.
I thought there was lots of love for Sage, or is it just a vocal minority, speaking of which, where the fuck is Kellermann? Banned again?

And what's up with calling Josy and Maya simps. Does that even make sense? Who are they simping (fuck I can't believe I'm using this term) after? The mc? I don't get it.

Bella is definitely crazy, and has always been at the bottom of my totem pole.

But Jill? Jill is a gorgeous, caring, kind, did I mention gorgeous, rich, slightly sub par intelligent, sexy, inexperienced, gullible woman. What the fuck is there not to like in that mix!? :sneaky:

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but doesn't that also apply to all LIs?
of course at a lower level eh

but none of the LIs represent the ideal girl (leaving aside the aesthetic aspect) they are all 5 very problematic girls

It's not for everyone to have the patience to stand by Maya and Jill.
to have the confidence in one's feelings to handle someone like Sage (maybe now the situation has changed but I wouldn't be sure) is not for everyone
having the confidence to sleep at night dealing with Josy is not for everyone

Bella in reality I think would represent a more complicated case maybe even than Quinn... It's hard to say in absolute terms given the little we know about Bella.

Is there so much difference between wanting to be the white knight who defends Maya from the abuse that life and her weak character has put her through and wanting to be the negotiator who saves Quinn from the abyss that life and her bad choices are putting her in?

I am a weakling, but I repeat that in Mc's situation I would have bet Asley or Mona with very little doubt.
All of the girls would be good company I reckon, and not just with the agenda to fuck them.

We haven't really seen the mc spending good, quality time with them a lot. Maybe kicking back and watching movies with Maya. A picnic or some outing with Jill. With Sage it usually involves getting drunk, but she's a lot of fun. Bella is a little more cultured, so wine but in moderation, and what, discussing a good book? With Josy it seems it's just sex, maybe a really badly cooked meal, and maybe in the future hanging out at the gym.

But I think they can all be fun in their own way.

Quinn on the other hand, what do we do with Quinn? Just get high all the time so we don't have to socialize...
 
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Tadpol

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About Quinn.

I can't imagine the MC accepting everything she's done (and we don't know everything). I will be told that she can change, especially if the MC helps her. But in this case, it would not be really Quinn. I can't imagine her changing out of love for a guy.

There's also what happened with Tommy. I don't understand why she didn't tell him about the HOTs who couldn't come to the party. Either there is a goal behind it (ugly stuff) or it was gratuitous nastiness to piss off Tommy. Knowing that the two are meant to be friends ...

When I see the character of Quinn, I see danger, trouble, and not a happy ending. This is clearly what DPC wanted.

So episode 7, either it's a trap (by DPC) so that we let our guard down before he hit us violently. Either DPC will have to pull out
the big game in terms of writing for the MC and Quinn to remain consistent.
 

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OK, I might be a noob who missed something, or just haven't read enough on here, but i keep seeing KRJ pop up in threads. Who or what is KRJ?
I'm sure this has been answered already, but she's the lovely and alluring Karen Rebecca Johnson.

Here's a shot of her surprise that you didn't know her initials, and she's likely about as naked as you're ever going to see her:

KRJ young.png

Here's one many years later calling to her male nurse at sponge bath time:

KRJ old.png
 

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About Quinn.

I can't imagine the MC accepting everything she's done (and we don't know everything). I will be told that she can change, especially if the MC helps her. But in this case, it would not be really Quinn. I can't imagine her changing out of love for a guy.

There's also what happened with Tommy. I don't understand why she didn't tell him about the HOTs who couldn't come to the party. Either there is a goal behind it (ugly stuff) or it was gratuitous nastiness to piss off Tommy. Knowing that the two are meant to be friends ...

When I see the character of Quinn, I see danger, trouble, and not a happy ending. This is clearly what DPC wanted.

So episode 7, either it's a trap (by DPC) so that we let our guard down before he hit us violently. Either DPC will have to pull out
the big game in terms of writing for the MC and Quinn to remain consistent.
I'm going to attempt to explain my viewpoint taking a different approach, because every time I've tried in the past, my point wasn't realized.
In regards to Quinn changing out of love for a guy, in order to understand why this is possible, we have to look at the way her backstory is molding her character. All her life, she was probably only shown true love from her father. Let's say for sake of argument, that her father was taken away (either jailed or dead) while Quinn was still in a developmental stage of her life, such as prepubescent years into early teens. The loss of the one fundamental loving figure in her life, the only one that's ever really shown her any kind of love or kindness, will cause her to adopt a "Me against the world" mentality until she's presented with a replacement loving figure. This is where MC's interactions with Quinn come into play. As far as we know, Quinn doesn't have any kind of romantic/unselfish connection with anyone at B&R. Riona is her closest friend, and the basis of their friendship is a business endeavor. Tommy was supposed to be her friend but it's turning out that Tommy isn't as trustworthy as he used to be with his instability due to drug use, coincidentally caused by Quinn herself.
MC wants nothing from her except her friendship. He's completely genuine in his actions. He doctors her wounds and even offers to help her financially with absolutely no reciprocation expected. This is a completely foreign concept to someone like Quinn. It's taking her by storm and it's going to go one of two ways. Either she's going to hold on to it for dear life, or reject it with every fiber in her being. Episode 7 presented us with evidence of the former.
 
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shazba

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can we stop with the "i cant be doing with this in so and so game" because of the whole "its wrong/rapey/creepy" etc?

we get it, we do

but i doubt any of us here are the biggest advocates of rape/assault/molestation etc, but its a game, and your almost kink shaming

instead of showing us all how many virtues you've got to signal, youre kind of coming across as if you don't have the capacity to separate real life from a leisure activity/hobby (gaming, not raping)
I dunno dude, that comes across as virtue signalling that virtue signalling is out. So I guess that would make me virtue signalling about virtue signalling about virtue signalling...

Can I just say that no one raped anyone in this game.

At any time the mc can opt out of penetrating a girl he doesn't want to be with. And I'm not saying a girl the player doesn't want to be with, cause I know some of you guys are like, "not tonight dear, I have a headache" but then Bella proceeds to polish the mc's nob anyway. But the mc was waaay down this that, so it doesn't count as rape.

And Maya grinding the mc? Yeah, not rape when he's fingering her on the outside of her clothes.

And Quinn, the mc can bail before she slips him in, so no foul.

So, no rape. A good time was had by all.

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An argument could be made for why any of the love interests should be the MC's choice. I am not making those arguments. I will say that the MC's character should be far more like Jill than like Tommy. Did he attend an all boys school or something? Drooling over Josy? And he goes from the guy who couldn't even talk to girls to being the guy who knows exactly what to say and exactly what to do in every situation and the guy everyone wants in one month ... no, just no. He should be as naive as Jill. He should be the one being taken advantage of, not the one taking advantage. One hell of a lot of license has been taken here.
 
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