VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [Dr PinkCake]

[godkingxerxes]

So, yesterday I checked DrPinkCake's Patreon and I realized that he's got 12.100 (or so) Patrons now. If I remember well, when Episode 8 came out he posted a sort of celebration report where he wrote he had reached and got past 15.000 patrons.

So, DrPinkCake, dude, I know you won't read this, but I hope and I pray that you have realized by now that you need to release shorter and faster updates for your own sake, the game's sake and our damn sanity's sake.

Enough said.

People sub to him when updates come out, download the update and unsub.

According to your numbers, if he peaked at 15k on release month and is still now at 12k after 4 months, that's actually really fucking good, it means he's keeping consistent numbers.

 

[sorco2003]

And I don't think we can suggest Jill is any more jealous than any of the other girls (or a typical girl in real life):

Very interesting reflection on the topics discussed, except for this part, denying the Disney princess facet goes against the reality of the game.
For the rest, I differ slightly, although I understand what you want to explain, there are details that do not fit.
While I understand that you put the emotions and fantasies as proper of all characters, at least so far, Jill is the only one who rejects you for those feelings (M&J rejects you for other things).

But that's actually good. I don't want the same criteria to be applied equally to all the girls. I don't want the game to feel like a formula.

I'd rather each girl have her own priorities, her own deal breakers.

That's the beauty of this game, they are not just different heads and bodies on the same personality. Nor do they just have modified dialogue, all saying the same thing but with varying personalities and style.

Each girl is completely different and the experience with her is completely different.


It always spikes after each release. That's the nature of Pateon, people sign up, download, cancel. Others stay on. You watch after Episode 9 is released, it'll happen again.

In particular, all this is my point, and yes, I agree, this variety is what makes the game unique, and it is too much to try to deny some of the characteristics of the girls.

 

[felicemastronzo]

I'm certain if Jill and MC hooked up in Bella's car, she's be bothered.

Hell we don't know her reaction to Jill and MC confirming their love for each other, and whether or not it'll differ depending on if Bella/MC never started, Bella dumped MC because Cathy or MC dumped Bella after his breakfast conversation.

I wonder most about option 2, does Bella tell Jill about that, and then does Jill find out about Jade. Lots of fun times ahead.

I don't think is the car the problem...

In that moment if MC is "dating" also Jill, Bella is full aware of that, but it is not a BIG problem, after she ask MC to dump her best friend. This trap maybe is set for later (as James)

If MC dumps Bella for Jill, Bella has a different reaction at the phone if i remember correctly

 

[godkingxerxes]

I don't think is the car the problem...

In that moment if MC is "dating" also Jill, Bella is full aware of that, but it is not a BIG problem, after she ask MC to dump her best friend. This trap maybe is set for later (as James)

If MC dumps Bella for Jill, Bella has a different reaction at the phone if i remember correctly

Does MC say he's dumping her for Jill specifically? My Jill run had Bella already dump MC, so never had to call the ol' lady.

 

[NebulousShooter]

And I don't think we can suggest Jill is any more jealous than any of the other girls (or a typical girl in real life):

• Bella dumps the mc when she finds out about Cathy.
• Maya and Josy feel hurt when they find out the mc is still dating Jill.
• Quinn feels awkward when she walks in on the mc fucking Sage (note she only feels awkward when she likes the mc, otherwise she thinks it's hilarious).
• Jill feels upset when she finds out first hand that a bunch of girls know what Fuckface's erect cock looks like.
• And it's only Sage that so far hasn't given a fuck, but I'm gonna take a wild stab and say she's not gonna be happy if she finds out our hero has been fucking her mom. Probably less about jealousy though...
  
  

First of all...



I did not catch that she reacts differently, but you are right.

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[Ottoeight]

People sub to him when updates come out, download the update and unsub.

According to your numbers, if he peaked at 15k on release month and is still now at 12k after 4 months, that's actually really fucking good, it means he's keeping consistent numbers.

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Check the Patreon Monthly diagram: 3years span. He constantly raised his numbers till ep. 8 release. Since then the trend has reversed.

 

[godkingxerxes]

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Check the Patreon Monthly diagram: 3years span. He constantly raised his numbers till ep. 8 release. Since then the trend has reversed.

Nothing of significance has come out since episode 8, so it makes sense that he's not going to gain anything.

But to release only a small, irrelevant interlude in that time and not drop any patrons is quite good.

Once we start seeing real progress on 9, something to build legit hype, his patron count isn't going up

 

[shazba]

People sub to him when updates come out, download the update and unsub.

According to your numbers, if he peaked at 15k on release month and is still now at 12k after 4 months, that's actually really fucking good, it means he's keeping consistent numbers.

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Check the Patreon Monthly diagram: 3years span. He constantly raised his numbers till ep. 8 release. Since then the trend has reversed.

Nothing of significance has come out since episode 8, so it makes sense that he's not going to gain anything.

But to release only a small, irrelevant interlude in that time and not drop any patrons is quite good.

Once we start seeing real progress on 9, something to build legit hype, his patron count isn't going up

Interestingly, if you look at other developers, Dark Cookie, Phillygames, there's a similar slump (DPC's is more pronounced though). Maybe everyone's going back to work due to COVID vaccinations and they've got less time to give a fuck about AVNs. I know it was COVID that got me hooked on this shit in the first place!

 

[Ottoeight]

I guess some people isn't even able to read diagrams.

He needs to release shorter and faster updates. The game itself needs it.

I know it, you know it, he hopefully knows it.

Anyway, I won't reply further: I've already told what I had to.

 

[godkingxerxes]

Interestingly, if you look at other developers, Dark Cookie, Phillygames, there's a similar slump (DPC's is more pronounced though). Maybe everyone's going back to work due to COVID vaccinations and they've got less time to give a fuck about AVNs. I know it was COVID that got me hooked on this shit in the first place!

I'm kind surprised on the first one, the amount of subs in general since updates are not patron locked. I assume most are a buck or two but still, good shit.

And agree about covid bringing eyes to this shit, can't jack off 4 times a day to the boring shit on pornhub, need some Quinn time.

Quinn/ Sage been my go to bi daily wank since the day I spoke it into existence.

 

[sixart]

I know it was COVID that got me hooked on this shit in the first place!

Blasphemy !!!

 

[godkingxerxes]

I guess some people isn't even able to read diagrams.

He needs to release shorter and faster updates. The game itself needs it.

I know it, you know it, he hopefully knows it.

Anyway, I won't reply further: I've already told what I had to.

Your diagram shows no real change in the last 6 months. Maybe you're the one having trouble understanding how graphs work.

 

[Ottoeight]

Your diagram shows no real change in the last 6 months. Maybe you're the one having trouble understanding how graphs work.

I DID TELL YOU: CHECK 3 YEARS SPAN, mate.

When people see a grey sky and tell me it's blue, what am I supposed to answer them?

 

[godkingxerxes]

I DID TELL YOU: CHECK 3 YEARS SPAN, mate.

When people see a grey sky and tell me it's blue, what am I supposed to answer them?

Why do I care about data from 3 years ago? It's not like he peaked 2 years ago.

He literally peaked the last chapter he created, and I'm calling it now, when chapter 9 is released, he will surpass his highest number to date.

So he has nothing to worry about.

And to your larger point, no, smaller, faster updates is not what this game needs. Nobody wants to play a 300 render update with no substance, this game is where it is because of the large, significant updates, and alas the technology doesn't exist where he can whip out 4k renders in 2 months.

 

[shazba]

I DID TELL YOU: CHECK 3 YEARS SPAN, mate.

When people see a grey sky and tell me it's blue, what am I supposed to answer them?

Three three year span is meaningless since that started from 0. Here are the last two years.



Each release has resulted in a spike greater than the release before.

And the current state is still greater than the April release last year.

It looks like the Interlude caused a minor hump, not a spike, but that was to be expected (who would subscribe just for that?)

Currently we're in the slump between releases.

Wait until the next release to be able to make a better assessment.

 

[Meushi]

Check the Patreon Monthly diagram: 3years span. He constantly raised his numbers till ep. 8 release. Since then the trend has reversed.

Your diagram shows no real change in the last 6 months. Maybe you're the one having trouble understanding how graphs work.

Three three year span is meaningless since that started from 0. Here are the last two years.

Err, I don't claim to be a stats guy, but based on those graphs it's clear that Ottoeight's point that DPCs Patreon numbers have been in a sustained declining trend since Nov 2021 is true, and that it's a departure from the norm. The bar graphs show that yes, there's a dip the month after each release, but after that each month the numbers steadily increase to the next release peak. That hasn't been the case this year, there was a minor bump for the Interlude, otherwise it's been downhill every month. It's starkly obvious in the line graph.

I'm sure he'll get another big peak with 0.9, it's what's between the major releases that's different at the moment.

So, DrPinkCake, dude, I know you won't read this, but I hope and I pray that you have realized by now that you need to release shorter and faster updates for your own sake, the game's sake and our damn sanity's sake.

Based on what? All his big peaks & sustained growth were from big, slow releases. The Interlude was a shorter, faster update & did next to nothing to halt the decline trend. I suspect the decline has little to do with DPCs release cycle:

Interestingly, if you look at other developers, Dark Cookie, Phillygames, there's a similar slump

Somewhat controversial Interlude release that some sought to skip, easing COVID restrictions, loss of Russian subscribers, global economic slump may all contribute to reduced growth in subscriptions.

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over the last 6 months.

 

[Ottoeight]

Each release has resulted in a spike greater than the release before.

And the current state is still greater than the April release last year.

It looks like the Interlude caused a minor hump, not a spike, but that was to be expected (who would subscribe just for that?)

Currently we're in the slump between releases.

Wait until the next release to be able to make a better assessment.

There wasn't even a plateau: just started plummeting.

No need for more words.

Once again, I hope DrPinkCake realized he needs to release shorter and faster updates: for his own sake, for the game's sake, for the players' sake.

 

[ename144]

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There wasn't even a plateau: just started plummeting.

No need for more words.

Once again, I hope DrPinkCake realized he needs to release shorter and faster updates: for his own sake, for the game's sake, for the players' sake.

I'm not sure I'd call it plummeting, but there is a downward trend in 2022. The question is why. I think it's more likely an indication that people no longer have as much excess money to through at things like Patreon.

What I don't think the data shows is that DPC needs to release faster updates because the upward slope of Patreons you show corresponds to increasing development time:

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So either people only started worrying about development time after Season 2 ended, or there is some other phenomenon at work. I vote the latter.

 

[babaraj]

Define " best girl(s) " and not from your point of view... Hard task just saying...

Hey sorry off topic, I tried apk by brandy from your border.. it says app not installed:/

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

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There wasn't even a plateau: just started plummeting.

No need for more words.

Once again, I hope DrPinkCake realized he needs to release shorter and faster updates: for his own sake, for the game's sake, for the players' sake.

That's what you want to see in this diagram. If you wanted, you could make one that shows that he needs longer updates because that way he gets more patrons when it's released

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