Yeah, it's pretty much all about the threesome.
The idea of the mc not knowing something that we know isn't entirely new. We've got a lot of insight into Quinn's dealings that the mc hasn't (which is weird since the mc is telling the story...
)Ahh, but that's the thing -- we are not the MC. The decisions we make for him and actions we make them take, these don't have to align with our own preferences, and it's better if we can make them with more knowledge. Much like i might decide the MC in some particular playthrough is interested in relationship with one of the girls i don't personally like all that much, just to see the way the story goes in such case, i can also decide that MC made certain decision about Zoey "because he doesn't have full picture" even though personally i do have this full picture. It doesn't require me to be ignorant about what the situation was really like.
I change Jill for Nicole in this equation easily. But some things are to good to happen even in fiction
The hope is the last thing we lose.I change Jill for Nicole in this equation easily. But some things are to good to happen even in fiction
Even being offered the choice to "Go see Bella" isn't guaranteed.I agree about going to see Bella. And yet DPC still gave us the choice. Why? If the game is so obviously biased in favor of that option, why give us a half-assed opportunity to do otherwise? Similarly, for those MCs who have gone out of their way not to pursue several girls, why then insist we play through the MC's pointless navel-gazing about who to date at the end of Episode 8? We've obviously already made the choice.
Personally, I think DPC just can't help himself. He likes to add choices, but he isn't willing to abide by the limitations those choices should impose on his story. This eventually undercuts both the story and choices, but in the heat of the moment the allure of cosmetic choices is too shiny for him to ignore.
Nope, it's not fake. Check out the previews so far.
I don't particularly disagree about there being no real canon, but how is that relevant to the question of why we get some of these choices in the first place? The fact that even an MC who never won Isabella over still gets to call her Bella and worries about his relationship with her just underscores the point: too many of the choices DPC gives us are ultimately decorative and not only never contribute to a larger picture, they actively obscure it.
So if Bella likes the mc, she's happy for him to call her Bella.
You have to go to Maya at the prep party after
Nope. DON'T agree to help Maya with the list just before Josy shows up. She won't cross thighjob off the list, and you can get the thighjob in this scene, thus the 100%.
Nicole -- the stepmom the throuple needs, even if they don't deserve it.
I still think you have to be on her route to do that though. I'm talking about the actual in-game mechanics that decide whether or not you're on someone's route.
I remember that kind of thing happening to a friend once. Kind of but sort of the same. He was dating this reserved girl and they never did anything but the second they broke up, she started fucking every other guy she found. We laughed so hard about that. Well ... we all laughed. He didn't.
I'm familiar with the way Bella's path works.
The problem isn't having to choose a girl at the crossroads, it's that the reason WHY the MC chooses a girl at the crossroads doesn't flow from the path that brought him there. An MC who embraces being Sage's fuckbuddy and likes sleeping around shouldn't care if he's a rebound guy. An MC who was fine making out with Bella after doubles tennis then fighting for Jill the same night shouldn't be phased by seeing the two of them hug after the concert. An MC who turned down both Maya and Josy shouldn't spend the entirety of Episode 4 moping about how they didn't cheat on each other with him.But is there a time when he's actually thinking about his relationship with Bella when there isn't one?
But your last point goes over my head: "...too many of the choices DPC gives us are ultimately decorative and not only never contribute to a larger picture, they actively obscure it."
I thought the choices were obvious. You choose to pursue a girl or not. This results in none, or many potential relationships. And then eventually you make one choice between the relationships you've been working on.
If you're suggesting the choices earlier on were meaningless since you've got to choose just one girl now, that doesn't ring true to me. The mc was getting to know different girls, he got to know the ones that appealed to him more than the ones that didn't. Then he decided it was time to make a choice, since he'd gone as far as he felt was appropriate, after which he would just be stringing the girls along.
If you're not suggesting that, then I really don't get your point and I feel retarded...
Sure, the MC will automatically pick the chosen girl at the crossroads... but only after he spends the whole breakfast asking Elena and Tommy for advice on how to choose. Likewise he shouldn't have been concerned seeing the girls hug after the concert because there's nothing to feel awkward about: he's already broken things off with all but one (two for M/J) of them.
Like I said, DPC can't seem to help himself.
Yeah... I like your reasonable answers and I'm also tired of arguing... So, just to close it (and I promise not to talk about the merits of the Interlude anymore), my considerations are based on an ideal that a good plot is one that everything in it matters and it's interconnected (and allows no excuses, even when the author calls those unnecessary parts interlude, prologue, epilogue, intermezzo, aside, digression or whatever); also, exposition must be parsed into the action in a way that you don't pause to explain things you may need to understand what will come next in the plot (even less to expose what's not necessary to understand the plot).I'm gonna go with your entire opinion is flawed for a very major reason:
It's an interlude.
It's literally not meant to be relevant to the main story. That's the point of an interlude. It's a break between acts.
If the Interlude was meant to be an episode, then it would be bad for all the reasons you've stated. But it's not an episode, it's an interlude, and it suits its purpose of an interlude well enough - a break from the main story.
Whether you wanted it or not, that's a matter of taste.
Instead, it seems to me that some extra choices are often missing or misplaced.I agree about going to see Bella. And yet DPC still gave us the choice. Why? If the game is so obviously biased in favor of that option, why give us a half-assed opportunity to do otherwise? Similarly, for those MCs who have gone out of their way not to pursue several girls, why then insist we play through the MC's pointless navel-gazing about who to date at the end of Episode 8? We've obviously already made the choice.
Personally, I think DPC just can't help himself. He likes to add choices, but he isn't willing to abide by the limitations those choices should impose on his story. This eventually undercuts both the story and choices, but in the heat of the moment the allure of cosmetic choices is too shiny for him to ignore.
This is strange. The player gets 100% of the scene if he doesn't want to help Maya. But in the walkthrough it is written that the player should help Maya if he likes Maya. The thigh job is done by Josy and not Maya.
