VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[ffive]

My problem with Zoey is... well, what for? We dont need her. There are already so many girls in this game, for every taste and attitude...

Evidently not, since Zoey represents not just one but two "types" of girl which weren't present in the game -- that is, former girlfriend *and* childhood friend. And at the very least the latter is a pretty popular archetype in VNs.

edit: also, we have AchedCroissant as a walking example that there is players for whom Zoey appeals more than other girls. So "we don't need her" would be far more accurate and honest if you said "i don't need her", speaking just for yourself rather than everyone.

 

[soprano31]

who wouldn't want to wake up next to such a beauty?
this is an angel of love descended from heaven,
this is god's masterpiece that he can never rise above.

with her beautiful auburn wavy hair,her glittering twinkling eyes,
those beautiful luscious lips that ask to be kissed.

oh,and those wondrous breasts that i nibble so appetizingly,
after which i kiss your beautiful smooth tummy until i touch your beautiful wet pussy.
you're so wet and horny that after I've licked you,
you come to an orgasm where your knees are shaking,and you fall into my arms with love eyes and a blushing look.

no,josy,you shouldn't look in the mirror,you are the perfection itself.
josy is love,josy is hope,josy is everything.
ti amo,ti amo josy

 

[felicemastronzo]

first they deny but in the end everyone loves revivals!!!
and then let's talk about it again!

in my opinion the interlude was necessary, when compared to the 13 months of overall wait its effect remains negligible and I am all in all optimistic that Zoey will be a good glue for the third season (glue that was complately lacking in the second season, in which things happened... random things).
but if its primary intent was to make us like Zoey it has failed, and I could also say that simply from a statistical point of view of how many she convinced (and if liking Zoey before remains that it was unnecessary...). but I prefer to do it from a narrative point of view.

we had already known Zoey, superficially, from MC's tale to Bella, and from that tale we had glimpsed a courageous girl who was ready to leave everything behind (at the time there was even theorizing about serious reasons why Zoey SHOULD leave) in order to start anew elsewhere, and we could even disagree with MC who did not have the courage to follow her. a girl who had somehow found her place, while MC worked sadly at the store trying to find the courage to say goodbye to Josy.

the interlude recounts this episode for us but makes it worse throughout. Zoey does not leave leaving everything behind, relying on her own strength, but goes on a nice vacation with her grandmother's money (and DPC emphasizes this aspect as well as she can, Zoey has yet to get off the train and already twice the danger of dissipating that money is evoked).
her invitation to MC seems almost like a tease-how could he possibly follow her? to do what?with whose money?

the interlude, however, gives her a motivation, the famous dream that only she and her grandmother believed in, but just as her stepfather predicted it fails miserably, fails even before she tries for real (have you noticed how boomer DPC is? as much as most adults are often negative characters they always end up being right!! ). and she doesn't find it her place at all, in fact she regrets what little she had at home (which honestly was little...)

DPC has a sadistic taste for pointing out how every choice Zoey makes is wrong:

she dropped out of school? okay, she makes up for it online with a degree and a grade that don't allow her to be accepted by any colleges in the area (said explicitly by her so if she had been accepted maybe she wouldn't have come back...) but fortunately there is BR, and with the "outcasts of the outcasts" shift there might be room for her too

she decided to let MC go by ghosting him (which, although without any real motivation, was still a selfless gesture)? she finds herself without his phone number and has to go back with hat in hand to ask if there is still room for her. imagine in reality going to the father of someone you have been avoiding and asking him to put you in touch...depression coming on...good thing MC is a snowflake and will make time for her.

to me it seems that the interlude gives us back a weaker Zoey in everything, compared to the Zoey we had glimpsed previously, I cannot see it as a success.

 

[Darkwen]

Well... I'm over trying to "debate" with a guy who think Shakespeare and the author of 50 Shades of Grey are the same because it's just "taste" and all art is the same (which... would lead to conclusion that everything is art -- since you can't define it, and what can be defined can be everything --, and, thus, everything is the same...)

These are apples to oranges and doesn't make any sense. Of course Shakespeare and 50 shades are different I never said they wasn't. What I'm saying is your reasons for calling the interlude bad and that everyone who says other wise don't know what they are talking about doesn't stand up. I call BADIK art because it's a game and some consider video games to be art and think its good you have the right to think its bad you do not have the right to speak for everyone and make it a law this is bad. But at last I found someone that Becky is smarter then

 

[Landro2340]

Are you stupid or illiterate? I gave you reasons... Since you can't counter those reasons, you have to resort to ad hominem arguments... And I'm not even saying that you couldn't counter my arguments because it's an impossibility... I'm just saying you didn't -- probably because you can't... Not because it's impossible... I think so, because something that can be skipped in almost its entirety (99.9%) is irrelevant and meaningless by definition, but I would take arguments with grounds and reasons more seriously than 5th grade bragging...

lol ok let's bite since I'm bored.

Interlude what does it bring? well let's take a look at the early chapters of season 1 when Bella questions us about the MC's past and he gives a brief story about his only friend who he had many of his firsts in life, kiss, sex, etc. So what's the point of this brief look to the MC's past? to understand where his emotional situation is, he never defined what he had with Zoey, this explains many of his immature reactions when dealing with relationships and gives DPC an excuse for writing those sudden "hissy fits" of the MC.

Let's then take a look at his future interactions with the main girls, he obviously doesn't want another Zoey situation where the girl leaves him with no closure, notice the advice he gives Sage about getting closure, something he wished he had done but couldn't because Zoey left him. The point of the interlude is to give an introduction to S3, to Zoey who will be probably a new emotional challenge for our MC and wether the writing is good or bad, that's just depends on the person, I don't find it a master piece of writing, but I get where it's coming from and what it will probably mean for the future of the story, if you like it fine but if you don't there's no need to write a thesis and go all MY GOD THIS SUCKS SO BAD, SUCH A TERRIBLE WRITING, that's your opinion, no need to escalate, call others out or start dramatic takes if other person likes it. So chill my dude.

 

[19Castiel23]

who wouldn't want to wake up next to such a beauty?
this is an angel of love descended from heaven,
this is god's masterpiece that he can never rise above.

with her beautiful auburn wavy hair,her glittering twinkling eyes,
those beautiful luscious lips that ask to be kissed.

oh,and those wondrous breasts that i nibble so appetizingly,
after which i kiss your beautiful smooth tummy until i touch your beautiful wet pussy.
you're so wet and horny that after I've licked you,
you come to an orgasm where your knees are shaking,and you fall into my arms with love eyes and a blushing look.

no,josy,you shouldn't look in the mirror,you are the perfection itself.
josy is love,josy is hope,josy is everything.
ti amo,ti amo josy


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[Hahn1900]

Evidently not, since Zoey represents not just one but two "types" of girl which weren't present in the game -- that is, former girlfriend *and* childhood friend. And at the very least the latter is a pretty popular archetype in VNs.

edit: also, we have AchedCroissant as a walking example that there is players for whom Zoey appeals more than other girls. So "we don't need her" would be far more accurate and honest if you said "i don't need her", speaking just for yourself rather than everyone.

Come on dont hang me up on this little word... if you read my whole post you can see that iam writing most of the time without using the word "we or everyone" i write out of MY point of view... only this one time the "we" slipped in by mistake... not really necessary to pick it out?

yeah sorry, i struggle with phrasing... english is not my strongest asset, in my post most of the time i speak for "myself" in this sentence the "we" slipped in. Iam not one of the guys who claims that my opinion is the only one that matters for everyone...

well... in someway, naturally its the only one that matters, cause its for me and iam playing the game for myself but yeah, of course i know that some do like Zoey...

Other than that... without her comeback in episode 8 iam pretty sure nobody would ever have asked for a Zoey comeback. As far as i remeber id never heard somebody call for a Zoey comeback before the release of episode 8

 

[ffive]

Other than that... without her comeback in episode 8 iam pretty sure nobody would ever have asked for a Zoey comeback. As far as i remeber id never heard somebody call for a Zoey comeback before the release of episode 8

Am not to sure about it, because between the pretty detailed way she was second-hand introduced through that scene with Sage, and appearance on the character list, it always seemed kind of natural to me to expect she'd eventually show up in person. It's the proverbial Chekhov's gun principle, that you only feature characters and elements which are relevant/necessary down the line.

In other words, if people didn't ask for Zoey's comeback, then it might very well be because these who were actually interested were taking it for granted. Plus, let's be honest, there's little point in asking DPC about anything when it comes to his stories. He'll only add what he wants, when he wants, and won't tell anyone in advance what it's going to be.

 

[rocopc]

I really dont undestand this hate for Zoey and I can tell all of you that I reallly dont like Zoey, dont like the model used, dont like the character in the prelude and really dont like the ex´s thing they are ex´s for something....... but we are in a game, and one that its sex driven so its never a bad thing to have more girls to bang in the game..... peace and sorry if my english its bad

 

[AchedCroissant]

i remeber id never heard somebody call for a Zoey comeback before the release of episode 8

Anyone believe the ex(Zoey) she gonna return in futures update?

 

[Lovetities]

What if DPC decided to punish us by making MC cheat on his chosen li with Zoey and madame without any choices(like that I don't want to be rebound guy bs which also make sense since MC can be sissy sometimes). In other girl routes, Zoey appears and MC goes into relationship with her and game end there.

 

[felicemastronzo]

What if DPC decided to punish us by making MC cheat on his chosen li with Zoey and madame without any choices(like that I don't want to be rebound guy bs which also make sense since MC can be sissy sometimes). In other girl routes, Zoey appears and MC goes into relationship with her and game end there.

it's not like it takes that much effort of imagination: that's what happens in the first season, where regardless of our choices MC will date both Maya and Josy thus falling into the generic profile of the 'traitor' also having the possibility of being the one excluded

so ...

 

[Landro2340]

To be fair with the rebound guy talk you have to look at it like this, you're probably playing a DIK MC who got rejected/or you rejected Josy/Maya who wether you wanted or not, MC had a crush on one of those (or both), if you banged Josy (as you should have of course) or Maya you were pretty much a rebound guy for them in a sort of way, so snowflake MC feels he's going through the same with Sage and drops that bomb there to turn it into a serious thing or not.

Of course if you're an Others path enjoyer like me shit might've rubbed you wrong 'cause DPC forcing you to get serious and stop dicking around. DPC is gonna DPC so its w.e., you just tell Sage no in chapter 8, she makes you look like a moron in the end but there's no lie, the MC can be a moron but we will try to make him man up in the future. (Hopefully with Lily)

 

[Astrid Hofferson]

Part of the community feels that Interlude has seriously delayed Episode 9 without adding anything new to the story. Because Interlude is a small spin-off that tells the backstory of MC's childhood friend Zoey.
The rest is a spoiler for you, so play through Episode 8 to the end.

Okay, thanks!

 

[ace057]

After playing this game for weeks finally i have every route possible but now i will go for the perfect route at least for me and go with Sage and others that way i might get lucky and fuck both daughter and mother. Come on developer i trust you make my dreams come true be man of culture like me.

If we can do this i can't wait to see burke and tybalt faces they really deserve this with how shit they are.

 

[felicemastronzo]

To be fair with the rebound guy talk you have to look at it like this, you're probably playing a DIK MC who got rejected/or you rejected Josy/Maya who wether you wanted or not, MC had a crush on one of those (or both), if you banged Josy (as you should have of course) or Maya you were pretty much a rebound guy for them in a sort of way, so snowflake MC feels he's going through the same with Sage and drops that bomb there to turn it into a serious thing or not.

Of course if you're an Others path enjoyer like me shit might've rubbed you wrong 'cause DPC forcing you to get serious and stop dicking around. DPC is gonna DPC so its w.e., you just tell Sage no in chapter 8, she makes you look like a moron in the end but there's no lie, the MC can be a moron but we will try to make him man up in the future. (Hopefully with Lily)

But the rebound guy would eventually brake MC in what?
the only sex it would exclude him from is the one with Sage already half naked in his room, then all free as always

no problem having sex with Lily, Riona, Camila and whoever would show willing.

pointless moment that all the characters forget about, we might as well forget about it too

 

[JohnnyBlazePT]

is there any prediction when ep9 will come out?

 

[nyrek]

is there any prediction when ep9 will come out?

lots of predictions, nothing concrete
DPC's last update said he'll push the episode before the end of the year
but considering the amount of work he listed as needs-to-be-done, people doubt it will happen before january

 

[Landro2340]

But the rebound guy would eventually brake MC in what?
the only sex it would exclude him from is the one with Sage already half naked in his room, then all free as always

no problem having sex with Lily, Riona, Camila and whoever would show willing.

pointless moment that all the characters forget about, we might as well forget about it too

Wouldn't call it pointless, it's a sorta way for DPC telling you "hey this route is about to escalate to something", up to you if keep fooling around or stay with Sage 'till the end. Sure, you can have fun with those you mentioned and make the MC keep looking like an hypocrite, in that regard DPC doesn't punish the player enough for that, yet...

 

[felicemastronzo]

Wouldn't call it pointless, it's a sorta way for DPC telling you "hey this route is about to escalate to something", up to you if keep fooling around or stay with Sage 'till the end. Sure, you can have fun with those you mentioned and make the MC keep looking like an hypocrite, in that regard DPC doesn't punish the player enough for that, yet...

And the next chapter threesome with Quinn and "I like to see you having sex with other girls"...