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It's called a CI. A criminal informant. She actually could be doing everything she is and still be working for the cops. I doubt it, but it's not outside the realm of possibility.
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I'm still not understanding how this is what derails the conversation? I didn't focus on this quote earlier cuz I just think its irrelevant:My argument : since running out of batteries that exact moment seems highly unlikely.
Your answer : it just happened to go off while Derek was in the room sleeping, which I could only assume is at least 1/3 of the time (8 hours out of 24)... Thats actually pretty damn likely lol.
Perhaps that is why this discussion seems te derail somewhat, no offense
When a spy camera is placed in something that thing is often replaced with a dummy version of the object. Whether or not the fire detector works on batteries has nothing to do with it. The "fire detector" doesn't even have to be a real fire detector anymore, its simply the casing to conceal the camera. So the argument that "Well the fire alarm can't use batteries because there's a camera there so the camera is probably connected to the electricity network" is just nonsense that I didn't really even feel like addressing.
My main issue was with you saying it's unlikely simply to run out at that moment. So yeah, "Your argument" and "My answer" mentioned in the first quote are directly related. What is derailing the conversation there?
I wouldn't really say we know either of these things. Sure, he was probably looking for something in MC's room, but that's not nearly explicitly stated, and Vinnie shutting off the power is even less certain.
No, it wouldn't. Idk why people pretend that good writing is only convoluted explanations. Coincidences happen literally all the time and this is not even that big of a coincidence. In the book "Great Expectations" by Charles Dickens, Pip randomly meets a dingy old man in a graveyard on Christmas Eve, which sets the plot of the story in motion. There's no reason for Magwitch, the dingy old man, to meet Pip specifically, he's just there and so is Magwitch, so he does because that's how the story is written. Thats how every story is written. Just like there's no specific reason for why Derek is there for when the camera battery goes out, he just is.
If it was totally random, I could have just flipped tails on a quarter instead of heads. But I didn't, I flipped heads. That's not a highly unlikely situation, that's how things work...
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im not saying she is a cop, more like a informer or something
i dont think it will be but would be funny
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I'm fairly certain we see Vinny outside just before the Preps turn up and that is just after the power is restored. I don't think Vinny was looking for anything in particular in the MCs room, I think he was in there for nostalgic reasons and does what he always does and starts trashing shit.
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If you're a police informant, you're probably not allowed to commit felonies. She's running a drug and prostitution ring. The only way she is getting out of that is turning State witness.
I want to preface my comment by saying I don't think this explanation is dumb, wrong, or unlikely, but I just don't get how someone would think the battery running out is less likely comparatively. There's quite a bit of mental gymnastics you had to go through there to explain why Derek wouldn't see it before going to bed. It's not an insane amount of mental gymnastics, no, but like of the two prevailing theories, one requires you to draw up a scenario where a DIK brother is carrying Derek because he's too drunk, doesn't notice the blinking light himself, and Derek is still sober enough to be irritated by a light after being carried upstairs, whereas the other requires you to say "Yeah the battery ran out". I mean... Occam's Razor.
I think Vinny being outside after the power is restored is even more reason to believe he wasn't the one who messed with the lights, at least personally. As far as Vinny being in MC's room, I agree, although I think there's a more likely chance that him "being in there for nostalgic reasons" is a misdirection for him actually being in there to find something than the chance that Vinny being outside after the power is restored is a misdirection from him being inside before the power goes out.
If someone carried Derek to his room, they may well have been drunk as well and the light was on, then he left, people usually turn lights of as they walk through the door as that's normally where the light switch is.
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That's using logic, something i try to do as well in this situation, but i think Derek finding the camspy smoke detector, is part of a bigger picture.
The Jocks blackmail, the Cathy cluck, the mysterious black box, the power off, the Jade vid, the spycam smoke detector....
All these things are connected.... Vinnie is the mastermind and executioner, perhaps (by now most likely) he was behind the trashing of the Dik mansion.... So is it really random Nick's room wasn't trashed, while every other room was a mess? We still mis info and i can agree with you we need to look at all these things critically, but since these facts all seem to be connected we should look at them from the bigger perspective.
This episode is the first we actually see Vinnie at the party and in the Dik mansion, the party before we know somebody took the laptop and money from the safe... Now we see Vinnie trying to open the safe.... Last time the laptop was left in the library, this time Vinnie is looking for something there....
If we start dismissing events that are connected in this storyline because of "it's possible just random" we are excluding possible hints aswell.... So i prefer to keep looking for explanations that fit the complete picture. If i can't find any acceptable explanation okay, sure no problem, more info in later episodes might fill gaps in this theory....
But i'm convinced we will get closer to see Vinnie's influence each new episode.
He may have well been in the MCs room looking for something, maybe even a small server where all the video is downloaded to from the camera/s (as we really don't know at this time how many cameras there are), but my guess is the cameras are more to do with Burke than Vinny.
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Leon got all the attention in Episode 9, you have to give the credit to DPC
Good prank, Quinn
Good prank, Quinn
Maybe I'm a bit of a softie and let Maya win, think she needed it more than Leon.Leon got all the attention in Episode 9, you have to give the credit to DPC
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On the rest I also quite agree, but on the point in bold: the fact that it is at the end of the chapter does not necessarily mean that it is important, it means that DPC wants it to be noticed.My post :
Normally a fire detector works on batteries, however i doubt batteries are an option when there's a camera in there....
Possibly it's connected to the electricity network and it got an error due to main power switch off at the party....
Only explanation that's somewhat valid since running out of batteries that exact moment seems highly unlikely.
Your answer :
Next :
My argument : since running out of batteries that exact moment seems highly unlikely.
Your answer : it just happened to go off while Derek was in the room sleeping, which I could only assume is at least 1/3 of the time (8 hours out of 24)... Thats actually pretty damn likely lol.
Perhaps that is why this discussion seems te derail somewhat, no offense
Good point indeed and yes, i still think it's highly unlikely this camera batteries running low exactly that moment....
One possibility that comes to mind is the spycam works on movement so Derek activated it when entering his room.
These devices use wifi to send pictures to a storage, due to earlier power down possibly the router needs a reset....
The story needs to make sense, we have known there's a blackmailer, we have known there's a hidden camera in Derek's room, we know Vinnie switched the power off, was looking for something in MC's room, then camera is found by Derek...
All these things are connected and there is a logical explanation as to why and when everything happened like this....
It would be really sloppy explaining from DPC if the camera just went off since batteries low if you know this has been awaited for that long..... If it was totally random DPC could have let Derek find that camera in the start of episode 10...
Or i'm just hoping it makes sense lol, i dunno..
In fact I would say that statistically it should be no big deal
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I'm not so sure about the proud part. In my game Dawe says nothing, he is sad and stares at the skeleton wearing the Jocks jacket hanging from the gallows. Dark times are coming
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