VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[Geralt From Rivia]

there is nothing wrong with that, only that they are all crimes: assaulting guards is a crime, breaking into other people's homes is a crime, stealing is a crime, going to a stripper club without being of age is a crime, walking around with 50 beers at a college where you can't drink is a crime (in college at least)

all felonies that individually would be more than enough to be expelled from the BR (and that they might not do sooner or later)

Troy would be an insurmountable obstacle? come on, that's hilarious. it would take 5 minutes to put him in his place, probably even Derek directly. would it be more complicated than living with Tommy?
becoming a DIK is Derek's dream, and to do that he needs MC (which then of course eventually has its share)

how then' would Derek help MC look good with the LIs?
with Maya he constantly plays the role of the jealous, cuckblocker brother
with Jill the whole blackmail thing stems from his fantastic idea (crime that too, but Tybalt is too stupid)
with Bella he creates constant awkwardness, and the issue of the copied test remains a bone to pick
perhaps only with Sage he is not directly responsible for major problems, apart from the unclear role in the Jade video, but there the first responsibility lies with MC

but he is the best possible friend, because he is

You say that all these offenses earn 5-star wanted, but no. Most of these "crimes", such as drinking alcohol and going to a strip club, farting on a security guard are not even worth attention and the college administration turns a blind eye to this until something serious happens. I read from real news that the cases of the Frats began to be taken seriously, if someone died, there were such cases.
You say that all these offenses earn 5-star wanted, but no. Most of these "crimes", such as drinking alcohol and going to a strip club, farting on a security guard are not even worth attention and the college administration turns a blind eye to this until something serious happens. I read from real news that the cases of the Frats began to be taken seriously, if someone died, there were such cases.
Where I agree with you is a burglary, Derek stole a....fucking stuffed deer and posted a photo on Rooster. But Tybalt did not go to the police, there is no statement - there is no corpus delicti.

I would absolutely not want to live with Troy after putting him in his place. Wouldn't it be a normal life together if you hate each other. At least you can find an approach to Tommy, he will go crazy and calm down. No harsh feelings to Tommy.

Derek is not supposed to help MC with his LI directly, his job is to provide moral support to MC when it was hard for him and he did it.

I bet you can't actually explain why that t-shirt bothers you.

The other day I read a witty, but threatening, pro-trans comment, to paraphrase it, it was something like:

"If a person won't use our correct pronouns, we'll make them a "were/was"."

Now I don't know how original that line was, but I thought it was pretty funny, even if they were (jokingly) threatening to kill people who didn't toe the pro-trans line.

Whereas Derek's shirt, the punch line has literally nothing to do with trans or anti-trans. Considering there is pressure on cis people to provide their pronouns on email signatures etc. these days, providing your pronouns isn't even a trans thing, it's an everybody thing. And Derek would like to be addressed by the terms he's provided. It's not particularly funny, but to be offended by it is to lack cognitive thought.

Haha, you too? Ignore him, this dude gave me a facepalm when I said that the game doesn't need trans content and I, like many, would be unpleasant to see this.

 

[felicemastronzo]

You say that all these offenses earn 5-star wanted, but no. Most of these "crimes", such as drinking alcohol and going to a strip club, farting on a security guard are not even worth attention and the college administration turns a blind eye to this until something serious happens. I read from real news that the cases of the Frats began to be taken seriously, if someone died, there were such cases.
You say that all these offenses earn 5-star wanted, but no. Most of these "crimes", such as drinking alcohol and going to a strip club, farting on a security guard are not even worth attention and the college administration turns a blind eye to this until something serious happens. I read from real news that the cases of the Frats began to be taken seriously, if someone died, there were such cases.
Where I agree with you is a burglary, Derek stole a....fucking stuffed deer and posted a photo on Rooster. But Tybalt did not go to the police, there is no statement - there is no corpus delicti.

I would absolutely not want to live with Troy after putting him in his place. Wouldn't it be a normal life together if you hate each other. At least you can find an approach to Tommy, he will go crazy and calm down. No harsh feelings to Tommy.

Derek is not supposed to help MC with his LI directly, his job is to provide moral support to MC when it was hard for him and he did it.

I'm not aware that in order to be expelled from a college you have to end up on the most wanted list in the country... they are all crimes, not for all crimes you end up in jail (especially then on the first one), this 5 star thing I don't know what you deduced it from.

why would Troy and MC hate each other? they had a fight once (over something Troy was not to blame for--the guitar). when they meet again if MC was sympathetic Troy in fact even apologizes. have you ever shacked up with someone for study or work? it happens to fight even loudly, but rarely do you leave the house (especially without having a place to go).
you are exaggerating a problem that does not exist; the only motivation is narrative

in fact Derek does not help him in his relationships but indirectly hinders him, and the one time he is supposed to give him moral support he starts by saying that he was not worried that Maya was hiding the truth from MC, but he was worried that his sister was not being faithful to Josy. besides best friend also an exceptional moral support

 

[yomigu]

But using mods also would mean he could have issues when the next version comes out. And then we will have another post of the next version equivalent of the Jacob crash. Easiest solution is to redo it and hold control until you reach the same spot.


Because you keep saves once a while, right. You don't just keep overwriting the same save, RIGHT?

Yes, I basically make a new save each time and only started overwriting saves when I finished the last page of saves. Sucks that I will have to redo everything from chapter 5 so I will just have to wait until I have time to do that. I don't know why the official walkthrough that was linked on the main post didn't mention that going with Cathy would make Bella reject you, seems like it would be an important thing to note. Is the unofficial/fan walkthrough any better?

 

[KАRАMBA]

farting on a security guard

 

[NebulousShooter]

farting on a security guard are not even worth attention and the college

Yeah, lets ignore the streaking part Poor Jacob got racially profiled and didn't actually get arested for being naked in public.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I'm not aware that in order to be expelled from a college you have to end up on the most wanted list in the country... they are all crimes, not for all crimes you end up in jail (especially then on the first one), this 5 star thing I don't know what you deduced it from.

why would Troy and MC hate each other? they had a fight once (over something Troy was not to blame for--the guitar). when they meet again if MC was sympathetic Troy in fact even apologizes. have you ever shacked up with someone for study or work? it happens to fight even loudly, but rarely do you leave the house (especially without having a place to go).
you are exaggerating a problem that does not exist; the only motivation is narrative

in fact Derek does not help him in his relationships but indirectly hinders him, and the one time he is supposed to give him moral support he starts by saying that he was not worried that Maya was hiding the truth from MC, but he was worried that his sister was not being faithful to Josy. besides best friend also an exceptional moral support

The 5 star thing was a joke. It sounded like they were all terrible crimes. Look, I myself would never do some of the things that happened in a game IRL: I wouldn't steal a deer in a rich boys mansion, run naked through a mall, or fight a giant jock, but dude, we're in a video game. We do crazy things that would not be repeated in reality. Like I said above, it's crazy stuff, but incredibly fun, so I'm okay with that.
I don't understand one thing, you mentioned drinking as a violation, didn't you ever drink during your college years on campus? Come on.

Fuck Troy. Treated MC like shit from the start and was an asshole.

I understand Derek's motivation in the M/J/MC relationship. He is worried about his sister and her relationship, he has known about them for about a year, so it is logical that he first of all thinks why Maya lied to Josy.
MC is Derek's new friend, and Maya is his sister. I think I would do the same.

Yeah, lets ignore the streaking part Poor Jacob got racially profiled and didn't actually get arested for being naked in public.

I've seen it, it's even on the DIKs fame board. Police arrested the poor guy for being black. #JusticeForJacob

 

[osculim]

So, after all these horrific crimes, egregious atrocities, some people cruelly accuse Quinn, a girl with a difficult fate, who committed several minor offenses.

Minor offenses eh ? She is an angel compared to that horrible scum Derek. How could he carry 50 beers around campus. The Autrocity.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

So, after all these horrific crimes, egregious atrocities, some people cruelly accuse Quinn, a girl with a difficult fate, who committed several minor offenses.

Quinn: drug dealer and pimp, blackmailer and bully.
Audience reaction: My goddess!
Derek: Stole a stuffed deer, ran around naked and attacked a security guard, used a chemical weapon. Threw balloons with urine. Dragged his friend into this.
Audience reaction: What a scum! 10 life sentences for him!

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Yes, I basically make a new save each time and only started overwriting saves when I finished the last page of saves. Sucks that I will have to redo everything from chapter 5 so I will just have to wait until I have time to do that. I don't know why the official walkthrough that was linked on the main post didn't mention that going with Cathy would make Bella reject you, seems like it would be an important thing to note. Is the unofficial/fan walkthrough any better?

The official walkthrough doesn't tell you a lot of things that it should, like this one. The fan walkthrough does tell you about this Cathy/Bella thing and other stuff. The only thing I'd use the Official Walkthrough for is rewards and that sort of thing.

 

[felicemastronzo]

The 5 star thing was a joke. It sounded like they were all terrible crimes. Look, I myself would never do some of the things that happened in a game IRL: I wouldn't steal a deer in a rich boys mansion, run naked through a mall, or fight a giant jock, but dude, we're in a video game. We do crazy things that would not be repeated in reality. Like I said above, it's crazy stuff, but incredibly fun, so I'm okay with that.
I don't understand one thing, you mentioned drinking as a violation, didn't you ever drink during your college years on campus? Come on.

Fuck Troy. Treated MC like shit from the start and was an asshole.

I understand Derek's motivation in the M/J/MC relationship. He is worried about his sister and her relationship, he has known about them for about a year, so it is logical that he first of all thinks why Maya lied to Josy.
MC is Derek's new friend, and Maya is his sister. I think I would do the same.



I've seen it, it's even on the DIKs fame board. Police arrested the poor guy for being black. #JusticeForJacob

in Italy the age limit for drinking is a recent thing and I took my license late, so at university I drank a lot but with a quiet conscience.
in the setting of BADIK instead it is (Cathy says it explicitly)
we've all done bullshit, and if we were lucky we didn't pay the consequences, if you do a lot of it the odds start to go against you

don't tell me it's a video game, clearly who cares about the law in a video game with 100 saves. the point was another.

okay, so Derek didn't give him moral support that time either...

Derek hides his qualities well from her

 

[yossa999]

There is one thing that I cannot understand. I see the same fragment across the different games. Rich kids act sassy and arrogant towards the poor MC and the best thing he is supposed to do is to ignore them because otherwise they will run to their daddies and sue the life out of MC and his family. Does this "I'll sue you" threat really work? MC throws punches here and there and they let him off with it. Tybalt threatens him with legal action but everyone laugh at him like he's a clown, well, maybe except for Jill, but she's one of that kind who wears a banana costume to the Halloween party. So, all this sue thing is a joke or what? Where are the fuckin' Harvey Specter and Louis Litt?

 

[osculim]

There is one thing that I cannot understand. I see the same fragment across the different games. Rich kids act sassy and arrogant towards the poor MC and the best thing he is supposed to do is to ignore them because otherwise they will run to their daddies and sue the life out of MC and his family. Does this "I'll sue you" threat really work? MC throws punches here and there and they let him off with it. Tybalt threatens him with legal action but everyone laugh at him like he's a clown, well, maybe except for Jill, but she's one of that kind who wears a banana costume to the Halloween party. So, all this sue thing is a joke or what? Where are the fuckin' Harvey Specter and Louis Litt?

Yep seems to be a thing with most things not just games. Personally I don't much care what the consequences are going to be. I always take the dick pic, Punch him in the face and break his teeth with the tennisballs. His presentation is hilarious if you do all those things.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

in Italy the age limit for drinking is a recent thing and I took my license late, so at university I drank a lot but with a quiet conscience.
in the setting of BADIK instead it is (Cathy says it explicitly)
we've all done bullshit, and if we were lucky we didn't pay the consequences, if you do a lot of it the odds start to go against you

don't tell me it's a video game, clearly who cares about the law in a video game with 100 saves. the point was another.

okay, so Derek didn't give him moral support that time either...

Derek hides his qualities well from her

In my country, too, there are restrictions on alcohol until the age of 21, but ... no one cares. Teenagers get alcohol anyway. During our college years, we had a party right in the classroom of the university with a lot of booze and loud music + a lot of trash things and everything was ok. No one get expelled.

In the BaDIK setting, there are consequences for so many things, I remember your comments about some of the gameplay and even made safe runs for girls that I like. I myself suspect bad consequences in many moments. But hell, I doubt there will be any repercussions for running naked in the mall, breaking into the Preps mansion, drinking alcohol. Because these events are fixed points in time. Yes, this is a video game, and according to the logic of immersive video games, we only get consequences for optional decisions that we made ourselves.

Okay, I don't quite understand you here. You say that Derek didn't provide moral support during the M/J drama, I say that he did. What is your understanding of moral support and what should Derek have done?
I will say that he supported MC, Derek talked heart to heart with him after what happened, gave good advice to take it easier, by the way, good advice and reccomended Swyper to him.

And since it's Derekposting Day today, I did this just for fun:

 

[Takkatakka]

In my country, too, there are restrictions on alcohol until the age of 21, but ... no one cares. Teenagers get alcohol anyway. During our college years, we had a party right in the classroom of the university with a lot of booze and loud music + a lot of trash things and everything was ok. No one gex expelled.

In the BaDIK setting, there are consequences for so many things, I remember your comments about some of the gameplay and even made safe runs for girls that I like. I myself suspect bad consequences in many moments. But hell, I doubt there will be any repercussions for running naked in the mall, breaking into the Preps mansion, drinking alcohol. Because these events are fixed points in time. Yes, this is a video game, and according to the logic of immersive video games, we only get consequences for optional decisions that we made ourselves.

Okay, I don't quite understand you here. You say that Derek didn't provide moral support during the M/J drama, I say that he did. What is your understanding of moral support and what should Derek have done?
I will say that he supported MC, Derek talked heart to heart with him after what happened, gave good advice to take it easier, by the way, good advice and reccomended Swyper to him.

And since it's Derekposting Day today, I did this just for fun:
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[NebulousShooter]

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[ChipLecsap]

in Italy the age limit for drinking is a recent thing and I took my license late, so at university I drank a lot but with a quiet conscience.
in the setting of BADIK instead it is (Cathy says it explicitly)
we've all done bullshit, and if we were lucky we didn't pay the consequences, if you do a lot of it the odds start to go against you

don't tell me it's a video game, clearly who cares about the law in a video game with 100 saves. the point was another.

okay, so Derek didn't give him moral support that time either...

Derek hides his qualities well from her

Be honest we are all friend here. Did Derek Fuck your Father? . Thats why you can't stand him huh? You accidently walked in on it during it?

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Be honest we are all friend here. Did Derek Fuck your Father? . Thats why you can't stand him huh? You accidently walked in on it during it?

He's crossed out on the list, just saying

 

[c.mork]

We are all degenerates in some way

 

[noctarima]

We are all degenerates in some way

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Meanwhile Average "Others/Man-Whore Route" Enjoyer

 

[Lightaces]

I am not a fan of that shirt.

Agreed, but I can see it being the kind of thing Derek would wear.