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where did I say that was the only reason?
Could've fooled me.
when she couldn't stay any longer she decided to leave, that doesn't exclude the other reasons. but if she had had a way (money) and reasons (surfing, a boyfriend, a college that would accept her) to stay for me it's not so certain that she would have left and that she wouldn't have put it off as she had done up to that point.
If you replayed the interlude like I asked you'd know better. Your first post that I replied to asked if she would ever see MC again if things were better:
after all, if everything had gone well in San Diego would she ever have seen him again?
I provided plenty of evidence that she came back mostly because it's what she wanted, not because of money or sucking at surfing. Yet you are so hang up on the timing of her return that you refused to acknowledge that it would've happened anyway.
 

Wizard_Shiryuu

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I would have found it omega cringe if her singular reason to return was the MC. This seem more realistic, when things got really bad, she realized what she gave up and was really important to her. Thats one thing I respect about DPC, he keeps his waifus imperfect.
He could have easily tried to make her a martyr, since she was playing catchup to all other LI, but he kept her personality and reasons relatable.

No, I'm sticking to my hater theory :p :Kappa:
Yeah, the reasons for her return are somewhat realistic and relatable. But the question is if she had been successful in SD would she have realised how much she missed home (and the MC) or not?
 

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With all these Zoey talk it be funny that being a dik only has one ending where fuckface decided to fuck college and return to his hometown with zoey making most of the choices so far pointless :Kappa:
 

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Yeah, the reasons for her return are somewhat realistic and relatable. But the question is if she had been successful in SD would she have realised how much she missed home (and the MC) or not?
How would anyone other than DPC know that? There is no clue, or argument for, or against that in game at the moment. I don't get why are people fixated on something like that.
If her Grandma didn't die, would she finish high school and be married to MC by now? Who knows and at the same time irrelevant.
 

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felicemastronzo

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I would have found it omega cringe if her singular reason to return was the MC. This seem more realistic, when things got really bad, she realized what she gave up and was really important to her. Thats one thing I respect about DPC, he keeps his waifus imperfect.
He could have easily tried to make her a martyr, since she was playing catchup to all other LI, but he kept her personality and reasons relatable.

No, I'm sticking to my hater theory :p :Kappa:
but in fact this is perfectly fine

just not the fairytale that some people need.:oops:

How would anyone other than DPC know that? There is no clue, or argument for, or against that in game at the moment. I don't get why are people fixated on something like that.
If her Grandma didn't die, would she finish high school and be married to MC by now? Who knows and at the same time irrelevant.
but what is that supposed to mean?

it makes as much sense to discuss it as it does to brag about how the first meeting with Maya and Josy would have turned into a glorious threesome if MC had behaved differently. it's talk
 
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Wizard_Shiryuu

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How would anyone other than DPC know that? There is no clue, or argument for, or against that in game at the moment. I don't get why are people fixated on something like that.
If her Grandma didn't die, would she finish high school and be married to MC by now? Who knows and at the same time irrelevant.
Yeah, we can't know. But we know she only realised that after losing what she had there, which makes her look selfish. Maybe she would have realised she missed home eventually? Maybe. But with the information we have she only realised that after losing everything in SD.
 

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hey guys what if the ending of the game involves the DIK mansion being on fire while all the girls are inside and you can only save one?

If you know you know;)
Counterpoint. What if the only people inside are the goblin and the blue haired bitch and you have the option to save none? That would go down as one of the best endings to an AVN I've ever played!!! DPC, get on it!!!!
 

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Yeah, we can't know. But we know she only realised that after losing what she had there, which makes her look selfish. Maybe she would have realised she missed home eventually? Maybe. But with the information we have she only realised that after losing everything in SD.
selfishness is an exaggerated term

she had doubts, but until she had a choice she did not face them. back to the wall she went

I would speak more of fear than egoism
 
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Wizard_Shiryuu

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selfishness is an exaggerated term

she had doubts, but until she had a choice she did not face them. back to the wall she went

I would speak more of fear than egoism
It wasn't the word I was looking for, but I couldn't find a better one. I hope I got my point across.

I wouldn't say she did it out of fear, to me she didn't think about home while things where ok (they never were really ok, she was always losing money). And only started thinking long term when she couldn't keep living she same way she was doing.
 

felicemastronzo

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It wasn't the word I was looking for, but I couldn't find a better one. I hope I got my point across.

I wouldn't say she did it out of fear, to me she didn't think about home while things where ok (they never were really ok, she was always losing money). And only started thinking long term when she couldn't keep living she same way she was doing.
within the limits of the narrative Zoey thinks about home in general and MC in particular at least until the stupid choice to let him go (she wanted him to go to San Diego when she had to finish school, then when school is over she doesn't want him anymore..), and by that time surfing is already a failure.

But it takes courage to reintroduce yourself to someone after deliberately avoiding them, and Zoey only finds this courage when she has no other options
 
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Ok, I got a bone to pick with who it was that uploaded that archive of Bella's and Jill's voices couple weeks back (I forget who that was now). I just now remembered to finally check that out, and after hearing sweet Bella's voice, can't see her the same way anymore.
YOU'VE RUINED BELLA!!
that was a mortal sin buster!
:mad:

Why, oh why did I have to be so curious to even go there.

Joking aside though, good grief is that voice-over just horrible. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I'm fine with Zoey. Things like that happen in real life and long distance separates everyone, sometimes intentionally and sometimes not, and honestly I care more about the present (and so far, she's just trying to reconnect so ya know).


Also, Bella as a mummy looks just..weird? I liked the costume of the girl which just tossed a sheet over herself more that that mummy look.
 

lollar2112

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I'm fine with Zoey. Things like that happen in real life and long distance separates everyone, sometimes intentionally and sometimes not, and honestly I care more about the present (and so far, she's just trying to reconnect so ya know).


Also, Bella as a mummy looks just..weird? I liked the costume of the girl which just tossed a sheet over herself more that that mummy look.
I agree she looked odd. DPC seems to have a fascination with experimenting with lots of makeup on his girls. Attractive women usually don't need much makeup. I thought Josy looked fine with her hair down, but he gunked her up in so much makeup and lip gloss she looked different. IMO he should just make them all more natural looking and I don't think they will look as odd as often.
 

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within the limits of the narrative Zoey thinks about home in general and MC in particular at least until the stupid choice to let him go (she wanted him to go to San Diego when she had to finish school, then when school is over she doesn't want him anymore..), and by that time surfing is already a failure.

But it takes courage to reintroduce yourself to someone after deliberately avoiding them, and Zoey only finds this courage when she has no other options
i overall agree with your perspective regarding Zoey in the interlude. i think it was an overall small failure on DPC's part regarding the way she is written. if he really wanted us to believe she was homesick, then why wasnt that more prominent throughout the entire episode? why emphasize that she only comes back home when she has no way to survive in San Diego?

im literally gonna pull something out of thin air that could have been added in: have a scene where Zoey wakes up from a dream about a past memory with MC (like hanging out in detention or whatever). we dont even have to see the dream, her inner monologue can make that apparent for us. then as she lays in bed thinking about the dream, maybe she picks up her phone and looks over the last texts she sent MC and has a look of worry/contemplation as she thinks about texting him again to see how is has been doing. ultimately she doesnt have the courage to send anything, but at least its made clear to the audience that she considered it and maybe actually has mixed feeling about MC and how it ended.

but instead of stuff like that littered throughout, she spends her days having a total blast and spinning around in chairs and living her best life with MC not even a thought in the back of her mind for 99% of it. DPC could have let her wear that mask in front of her new friends, but in her alone time we should have seen much more of her vulnerable insecurity and mild despair at her situation with her "best friend". and as ive previously mentioned on this topic, if you had her ACTUALLY DATE people as she pretends to "move on" (pretends is because she obviously stays an option to MC based on the nature of this game) and realizes through personal experience how shitty so many other guys are, and then as a consequence realizes how great her and MC were together and that she now knows she wants their relationship taken to the next level. that makes a much more meaningful catalyst for her returning home, and it would make sense whether she had money/success in San Diego or not, and doesnt add any negative connotations to her character motivations for returning.

i think many of the Interlude's issues come from the differences on how the game was set up to played compared to how its supposed to function merely as a larger slideshow of filler information to catch her up to everyone else in the game's timeline. if the game was built to actually mimic BaDIK and Zoey was a real MC of her own, with us being able to take many different paths as she experiences genuine trials and tribulations (including sexual encounters), then her journey and growth could be better explored similar to the actual MC. but because she is like some psuedo-MC wannabe in her episode, it limits what's possible for us to experience when "playing" as Zoey, as well as the fact that she reverts to basic side girl status in the real game means that the mish mash that is the Interlude just doesnt really work particularly well in any of its intended roles in this overall story.
 
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