VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[funkymonkeyjedi]

you dont like dr house ??????? wtf how

That type of show is about as interesting to me as a used tampon.
I'd rather watch reruns of "Father Ted" or "The Black Adder" or hell even "Bay Watch" would be more interesting to me.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

I think it will be. Only MG I'm not sure will have much of a reaction is Jill. She'll probably just ask whether you used it after becoming her boyfriend, you answer no and she'll be totally fine about it. Bella will be pissed off that you didn't tell her about it so she could put a stop to it. Sage will have the most explosive reaction to it.

True, but concerning Bella though, I'm not sure she'd want to do anything about it. Specially after Ep9 where Nick spots her when leaving your room by the window.

I think Bella is the LI that has the most to lose, no matter which direction the story takes. I don't believe Derek would rat her out for fraternizing with a student. But others in the frat? not so sure they'd be so loyal to keep quiet should Bella have the hammer drop on anyone for whatever reason.

Although I am curious how Derek will react to her finding all his cheating techniques in class. Will he still keep her & MC's secret? Or will he try to blackmail the MC or her once he finds out they're dating?

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

Depends on what the handbook says. I'm sure they'll make some excuse to Nick and have him believe it was a platonic sleepover like the previous one (though whether the DIKs believed that or not is another question). If the handbook says teacher/student relationships are forbidden I don't think they'll tell anyone, even Derek, that they're in a relationship. If the handbook says it's ok then there's no blackmail to be had.

I have a nagging feeling that the handbook will most likely say something along the lines of "explicitly forbidden" to prevent "favoritism" and other complications. So I do believe the blackmailing will be inevitable. Nowhere is it illegal for a teacher to date an adult student. But every institution forbids it because the teacher could find themselves in a compromising position where a student could "curb" some teacher's educational integrity. Which would ultimately reflect negatively on the institution itself should a scandal erupt.

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

I have a feeling DPC will use porn game logic and go the other way and make it a "grey area" rather than actually forbidden.

You could be right.
But looking at DPC's track record (OK so there's only 1 other title under his belt), he does tend to 'tickle' the realistic side of things. And judging from his other title, drama seems to be at the forefront of his creations, so personally I'm doubting the 'grey area' angle.

I think for the second half of his game he'll be coming at us 'head-on' with the drama, and that's not in the grey area.
*shrugs*

 

[funkymonkeyjedi]

I suppose it depends on the wording in the handbook too. Technically Bella is only Cathy's temporary replacement not permanent (unless that changes), and she is probably still employed primarily as a full time librarian, part time teacher (in the one optional end of curriculum course). DPC could use that as the get-out but then produce drama as the other staff (especially the rejected Burkes (Jade by Fuckface, Stephen by Bella) question whether that interpretation of the handbook is correct.

Plausible.
You could be onto something.
As you pointed out earlier, this is fiction afterall.
So who knows how it'll all pan-out, reality is but a guideline and not a determining factor.

 

[I'm Canadian bub]

I think it will be. Only MG I'm not sure will have much of a reaction is Jill. She'll probably just ask whether you used it after becoming her boyfriend, you answer no and she'll be totally fine about it. Bella will be pissed off that you didn't tell her about it so she could put a stop to it. Sage will have the most explosive reaction to it.

Honestly, the most explosive reaction will probably be Quinn; no way she will be doing great if, or should I say when, it gets out. As unhinged as she has been so far, I can see the lid coming right off when she loses all her precious control.

Sage will be explosive no doubt, but I feel she and Maya will probably react along the same narrative lines, just on different sides. Maya will see it as this cliff she was almost pushed towards while Sage will realize she's like Wile E. Coyote with nothing but empty air to stand on and all it took for her to fall is to realize it. The cliff is the line, for clarity's sake.

Spoiler: Looney HOTs: A Tale of Betrayal

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Thinking about it, I wonder if Derek uses the services. We get no scene showing that but we can't assume we've been shown everything he's been doing just because it's possible to become his best friend. If he has been it might add a bit of drama to Maya's storyline, assuming her loan gets handled before any prostitution revelation. "Forever and ever" may just become a lot shorter.

Love the convo in the past few pages, don't know what happened with DMNOV3R though. A week or two ago he said something about being done with F95 and I took that as a farewell, but I guess it was just a joke. Hard to comprehend the first thing he does upon his return is shit on Thanksgiving and jump to conclusions about a massive three-week time-skip, but it is what it is I guess. Regardless, cool to see you active again. Hope you're doing okay, my guy.

 

[felicemastronzo]

Craftsman/painter, if he really good and skilled will warn you and give you an estimate. Like, you may ask to speed up the process, but the cons could be a lower quality. Like, something won't dry out there and there will be stains, something will come off here, because we started painting until the glue caught, etc. Comparing it to the game it would be a bunch of bugs in their worst form, like when you can't progress, game crashes, whatever else. He will have to fix it and spend some time, and you - as player have to wait for each fix too.

The only alternative to quality degradation due to increased development speed and the complete opposite at the same time is to limit & reduce the size of each new episode. But is it worth it? Yes, we get a piece of new content faster, but given the current branching of the game, it will be a 2-hour run for each individual branch, although for the 9th episode it was 4-5h. Also a dubious way, you will have to increase the number of episodes and seasons. And despite the faster release of each episode, some time is spent on the release side tasks anyway, let it be 2 weeks on average (testing, compilation, uploading, etc.). Anyway it's a useless speculations, because DPC already rejected following such way as well.

but what reason does the craftsman have for saying that it could take less? and who is the judge of how much improvement each extra day of work brings? he himself, so it is a sentence that has no real value, nobody knows the minimum time required, even more so in a situation of absolute freedom as in this case.

if DPC by chance released the chapter in July would this automatically mean that it was rushed and that any flaws in the chapter are all due to this haste? i don't think so, and in the same way if it came out next year it's not like it automatically becomes the best chapter ever, like 9 which wasn't.

I suppose he don't think about such tricks to get money exactly. He got very well income already and we are in several years from final episode. Also I don't expect that he want to literally "die" or "burn out" while he making the game. Because following this logic may take him to the point when he just don't want to do anything more. So, I would trust him in a way which he described it, that sometimes he become "too creative" and want to unexpectedly implement something at the last moment of time.

I never said he could do it out of malice, to cheat his patreons, but that he has no reason not to do it

and when you talk about burnout: doing something you like is the best way to avoid it, so doing a scene that you feel like doing, however much it may be more or less useful, more or less loved, is the solution, not the problem


QUOTE="anonnyscouse, post: 10982395, member: 2644621"]
Again, it's only urgent to Jill and the lawyer (the people who decide when the meeting will take place) if Maya has told them the whole problem which she probably hasn't. As far as they are concerned the problem is that one of Jill's friends has issues with her loan, to them there's no imminent threat of Maya being thrown out of college so it's not an urgent issue. You can't project our knowledge of the situation onto characters who don't have the same information.
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if it is urgent for Maya, then it is urgent, MC knows the problem, Josy (who is very close to Jill) knows everything, even Sage should know almost everything, if Jill is kept in the dark when at this moment she represents Maya's only chance it is part of those choices acceptable for plot but not for realism.

but then it's not that the lawyer has to solve the problem immediately, but at least be made aware of it

 

[rj677]

With a 3 week timeskip it's pretty likely we'll have Jill and Bella's reconciliation in Ep.10. At least for those who only pursued Bella romantically. Because I refuse to believe that Jill will still be mad at Bella in this scenario (where the MC doesn't mean shit to Jill). If you're still upset... Grow up, Jill!

Well... I hate to be the bearer of bad news here but having into account how DPCs writing of Jill is coming along, I wouldnt be surprised if shes still sulking, bitching and moaning about it even after all this time.

Since episode 6 Jills writing has portrayed her as naive and very slow to obvious conclusions, so catching her best friend fucking the guy she liked on top of the dinning table after she told her to pursue this same guy... Yeah, Im guessing maybe as a New Years Resolution for her to get over it on any path, because their paths are connected (2 LIs connected its a trend for DPC )

And to the people who COPIUM say "But Jill just dropkicked Tybalts dreams and humiliated him"... Like THATs a difficult thing to do

Meanwhile, Im still searching for a reason as to why this woman showed up to a Halloween party with a banana suit with 0 setup with anyone else . And thats just another reason as to why people should never trust Jill to do the expected and right thing

PS: Main Full DIK Manwhore player and Sage/Quinn admirer

 

[vneotpolemus]

Sage will be explosive no doubt, but I feel she and Maya will probably react along the same narrative lines, just on different sides. Maya will see it as this cliff she was almost pushed towards while Sage will realize she's like Wile E. Coyote with nothing but empty air to stand on and all it took for her to fall is to realize it. The cliff is the line, for clarity's sake.

Spoiler: Looney HOTs: A Tale of Betrayal

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You've got to feel for Sage, DPC is being especially sadistic writing her. Everyone in her life is betraying her. Her birth parents abandoned her, her previous boyfriend was closeted and only using her as a beard, her closest friend is whoring out her sorority sisters to her dad, and her mom has, at a bare minimum, tried to seduce a friend she has a crush on. Even Maya's got Derek in her corner. The only people Sage has known for more than a couple of weeks who aren't fucking her over are Elena and ... Aerith I guess?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Jokes are jokes, but sometimes scary or unexpected things happen. The main thing is not to get into the dry accidents stats though.
While some consider such principals and type of approaching with project as big cons, I think it's an opposite. If he would do it's job bad, than we probably wouldn't discuss this now. I prefer to work in the same way, bc I know, as example, that I will do my job alone better and faster and will enjoy the result, than would try to teach a person, then supervise it periodically only to finally find that I don't like the result. It's a real issue and a team work in large AAA studios as well as managing whole team is a hardest thing.

Management is a very serious and difficult job, I heard about some developers here who are recruiting a team. But this only worsened the results. Most of AAA studios is a joke now.

Yeah, I remember what happened to him from Q/A series, but I wasn't attentive enough to realise that it happened in a row literally. So, he had really a bad time during EP9 dev cycle. It's a reasonable excuse for a 9 months release time as well. 1 month was just fucked off.

Now in this cycle we have a vacation, but I understand this is necessary after so many years of work without rest. Of course, Ihe could have waited for Ep.10, but I think his wife insisted on it, especially since it's summer, perfect time for vacation.

Tbh, I find Sally hilarious. Such a unique rebelling nerd. Also each her scenes with MC are fun as hell. Madame... yeah, I still doubt the nessesity of adding such specific character, because DPC would play this off in much more reasonable way, like making similar scenes with one of Pink Rose girls (mostly MILFs of course) which we had meet before. And she doesn't occupy anything else than lewd scenes space. A couple of renders she took away when MC meet her is a drop in the sea. Later, he just called her by phone to "teleport" to Pink Rose. Will she play any other role and take some noticable or even important part in the plot? I still doubt in this too.

Sally just pisses me off. Even on the Chick/Neutral route, she is rude to MC for no reason. I didn't do anything wrong to her, why? Although maybe she just lacks good dicking, but I will probably go around a girl who looks 15 years old.

My first bet was on late May-early June. I was so inspired by his reports in the first months that I expected a 5-6 month release. Then I moved to late June-mid July and now... well, we are at August at best. I want this bet to win.

Yeah, it was faster a lot, but now long animations in the queue says "Hi"

 

[ImSenjou]

Sally just pisses me off. Even on the Chick/Neutral route, she is rude to MC for no reason. I didn't do anything wrong to her, why? Although maybe she just lacks good dicking, but I will probably go around a girl who looks 15 years old.

Sally's attitude has already been discussed here, the problem is most likely because she takes xanax, which has irritability as a side effect, and we know that she doesn't treat the MC in any special way, the way she treats him, is the same as she treats everyone.

Basically every scene of hers she is angry, including the scenes that don't contain the MC, and we know that her relationship is in a bad moment, probably because she is unbearable.

She must have realized that too, everything indicates that she should start to soften, give the MC more chances (and maybe others too, but we probably won't see renders about others).

I like Sally simply because she is a rarity in this game, she plays hard to get, which makes me want to own her even more, but I imagine that after I get her I will lose interest.

 

[yossa999]

There are a few half hints in the game as to how Sage has lived all this time. Whether or not you go Sage's way, she still tells Chad that she cheated on him. Quinn, on the other hand, says that Sage has had experiences with girls, so if there was cheating, it was lesbian cheating.

I've gotten to this point in my replay, and when the MC isn't Sage's fuckbuddy, she says: "And I can be honest with you too. I've cheated too. Well, I tried to. And I wanted to." So it's debatable if she really did cheat while she was with Chad.

 

[TheBigWater]

Off the top of my head you'd want the following saves for maximum content:

Current main routes:

DIK Others - manwhore route
DIK Sage - without fucking Jade
DIK Sage - after fucking Jade
CHICK Throuple
Neutral/DIK Throuple
CHICK Jill
CHICK Bella - without pursuing Jill
CHICK Bella - with perusing Jill

Current minor routes:

DIK Others - with DIK Zoey
DIK Others - with CHICK Zoey
CHICK Others - with DIK Zoey
CHICK Others - with CHICK Zoey
(Zoey's affinity reaction with Fuckface's affinity is currently unknown so the mix required for a Zoey branch is unknown)
DIK Others - Quinn focused in ep 9
DIK Others - Nicole/Lily focused in ep 9
DIK Others - Sarah/Mel ending in ep 9
DIK Others - bed with vixens ending in ep 9

Potential routes you'd want to be ready for:

Any Affinity (I went DIK) Others - telling Derek still interested in Josy, telling Josy in ep 9 that you think about her all the time, in case of M/J break up and solo Josy route available
CHICK Others - telling Derek still interested in Maya, in case M/J break up and Maya solo route is available.
Neutral Jill - in case not being CHICK affinity produces different content in the future
Neutral/DIK Bella with and without pursuing Jill - again in case of different content than CHICK affinity
Any Affinity (again mine is DIK) - Rio focused


And that's just off the top of my head without looking at the saves I've got, I'm sure other people can mention other routes that you'd want to have too.

Is it possile to be in Maya+Josy route in DICK path? How?
Why Zoey is in CHICK? She looks like a girl for DICK guy

 

[dd82]

Is it possile to be in Maya+Josy route in DICK path? How?
Why Zoey is in CHICK? She looks like a girl for DICK guy

I don't know, but you can have your DICK in Josy and Maya while being on their route, I can tell you that much.

 

[dalli_x]

Who's saying she will have to wait? Jill didn't even have a chance to contact her lawyer in Episode 9, since she found out about it at the party. It might be one of the first things that happens in Episode 10, just a few days after the Halloween party.
In real time, it can take weeks to hear from a lawyer, btw.

I almost agree with you.

Jill did learn some details about Maya from Josy before the party. But the conversation at the party suggests that Jill has not yet contacted the family lawyer. But it is also indicated that this could be quick, because this Royce family lawyer is always available to Jill and a lawyer does not want to lose such clients as the Royce family.

Jill calls and the lawyer jumps.

I can imagine that's how it's going to go down. But the lawyer will not get any more information from Jill on the phone, whereupon the lawyer will inform Jill's parents, which then leads to the meetings at the Royce's. So DPC can make the connection between Lynette and the Royce.

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I assume this connection through Jill and/or Maya will accelerate the answers the MC is seeking about his mother. I am starting to think so Maya ordeal with Patrick is nearing an end. But I also think that if the MC is on the Jill or JM Branch so that there will be a dramatic development for one or the other "Other Girl".

"Others: This option is only available if you aren’t in Josy’s and Maya’s relationship and don’t have a successful relationship with Jill."

 

[El hombre sensitivo]

by far my fav game keep up the excellent work

 

[TangerineTango]

Out of curiosity, what courses in college are the characters taking?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Sally's attitude has already been discussed here, the problem is most likely because she takes xanax, which has irritability as a side effect, and we know that she doesn't treat the MC in any special way, the way she treats him, is the same as she treats everyone.

Basically every scene of hers she is angry, including the scenes that don't contain the MC, and we know that her relationship is in a bad moment, probably because she is unbearable.

She must have realized that too, everything indicates that she should start to soften, give the MC more chances (and maybe others too, but we probably won't see renders about others).

I like Sally simply because she is a rarity in this game, she plays hard to get, which makes me want to own her even more, but I imagine that after I get her I will lose interest.

I remember. These pills can be very dangerous if used incorrectly without consulting a doctor. It's still drugs. As far as I know, side effects can be worse than irritability.
Plus the relationship with Magnar, which we see at the end of second season.
But it is unlikely that I will have an interest in her, and this is not only her attitude, it is also her looks. If there will be a scene with Sally, I will open it for stats on one of the routes, but that's all.

Out of curiosity, what courses in college are the characters taking?

What we know for now:
Jill learning economy, same for Sage but with a deepening in management,
Josy is also enrolling in an economics course.
Maya is going to become a social worker and help families, so her field of study is sociology and psychology. MC is going to do science, nothing is known about Quinn and other SGs. From what I remember.

 

[Fapparition]

Is it possile to be in Maya+Josy route in DICK path? How?

To be able to achieve permanent DIK or CHICK affinity you cannot do more than 4 opposite affinity decisions (4 major CHICK choices for permanent DIK affinity and vice versa). M&J route checks your affinity (it needs to be NEUTRAL or CHICK) too early, you can be NEUTRAL at the time while have 3 or 4 major CHICK choices. All you need to do after that is to choose DIK replies for the rest of major choices.

 

[Joshy92]

The fact that Maya wants to be a social worker & help people
just further proves how sweet & awesome she is.

Team Maya for the win & let's not forget Josy of course.