Kpyna

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I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with this way of thinking. I understand that demanding perfection isn't realistic because we're all just humans here, and one of our most defining traits is the existence of flaws and mistakes that we make.
Probably not, because you don't get the fact, that things you demand seems good to you, but may seem bad to another person or group of persons. It's impossible to please everybody at a time. Variations and options helps a lot, but even all this can't please everybody, still.

Regarding the impossible, I understand the amount of permutations is crazy and impossible to make perfect, but we're talking about the developer who:

  • Refuses help
  • Refuses any valid criticism of his work
  • Became ambitious and expanded the number of permutations this game would have, because I won't believe you that Quinn, Rionna, Nicole, Lily, or even Melanie and Sarah would have so much. Quinn is a sure one, but people are speculating, based on stuff presented in recent episodes, that even Rionna or Nicole will become an option for MC on Others path.
This facts and your points are also disscussed quite often here and in other places.
1. Teams could work better, but usually not. There're a lot of examples, especially when we are talk about AVNs. In short. Team dillutes and sometimes spoils your ideas and vision of different aspects of the game. If we imagine the 2-3 additional people working with DPC in team, he will need to constantly manage such a team, control the quality and how it goes according to his vision. Managing and controling is not that easy. And spreading the tasks between different people not always speed up work. You will be quite lucky if you would be able to speed up the process, while quality will remain the same. Otherwise you won't get any increase in speed of production, but maybe (again, if you're lucky enough) you will have some more free time. And most of times such team may even slow down the production AND qualitiy of product at the same time. And finally... remember, that the author is obsessed and excited with his idea and it's realization. Would the hired team act the same way or they will only interested in money? It's rare when team acts properly and you can rely on each participant. Some may unexpectedly leave the project in a very improper moment. Some may steal data and spread it to spoil the project because of some resentment or something similar. And a lot of other stuff and troubles intended to co-workers. I prefer to work like DPC on my job, because I know that I must invest a lot of time to finally get an equal co-worker I can trust and be sure in him, but at the same time I hate to manage somebodys work, control it, etc. This mostly will always mean that I changing my job priorities and specialization, which I also don't like and plan to.

2. His game, his rules. He made it clear years ago in Q/A sessions. Since you passionate with game, I suppose you like it and you accept or is able to accept the things and moments you don't like. This also makes this game unique. Start to hear the crowds, change things on every request and you will follow the flow and will soon or later loose most of your original views and plans.

He allows some acceptable customizations for his patrons, such as girls outfits polls, etc. But he will never accept advices and criticism regarding plot, options, etc.

However, this girl stands lower than Pete and wears flats. That's not Iris Moore.
First you claim that according to the "genes" children should be like their parents and that it is unlikely that Pete and Iris are there. Then you admit it's probably Pete. Next you tell me that:
I don't care if there is a magic gene or not. Make your own observations. Children usually grow taller than their parents. I don't need any scientific genetic analysis for that.
wtf? can you be a little bit more consistent?
What do you want with Easter Eggs?
Nothing! It's just fun, exciting and adorable!

While you fall far beyond and start to build theories from nothing, including ones, based on Easter Eggs.
Like if we seen Pete behind Neil, then they MUST be connected and even know each other.
I like to ask about examples, so what's the difference between scene in Interlude with MC and Zoey on train station with Steve's father and his new love and that scene from diary with Neil and Pete. No difference, both Easter Eggs, imo. We will probably see Iris some time later, but with that little hint, attentive players would have a clue by that moment that they had already seen her. Even more significant evidences like Chad's red sneakers in Troy's room just allows you or somebody else to reveal a little piece of story earlier than the rest of players will do, but nothing more than that. Do you feel the difference? Your theories goes far beyond anything. And if we will summarise them, then it will turn out that absolutely every character related somehow to each other. Will you like such plot twist(s) and outcome, personally? I'll immediately delete such shit and forget about it if it will play out in such way at finale or closer to it. It's damn heavily implausible and nullification all decent plot builded before.
Your problem is so that you can see something, but not see any parallels to what is written.
And yours is that you exagrigate absolutely everything, even Easter Eggs or coincidences made and intended just for fun or to praise some players attention.
This optional part of the game, as you call it, is an integral part of the characters' parents. Why? Because some characters were conceived at that time. But precisely because of your mindset, so DPC wouldn't give a hint about the optional part of the game, it does.
Hmm, what? I meant mini-game(s) and mansion renovation. It's optional content, if you play with mini-games off, you will never see it. And even if you play with mini-games, you may miss this job on board for different reasons.

Finally, who makes and find coincedences using a first names? We got a hint and consequences with last name regarding Burkes and Sage. That was good one.
 

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Probably not, because you don't get the fact, that things you demand seems good to you, but may seem bad to another person or group of persons. It's impossible to please everybody at a time. Variations and options helps a lot, but even all this can't please everybody, still.

There are certain principles in game dev that should always be met, like if you create a game with a story, people will criticise it if it has jarring plot holes in it, right? There are also moments when creators are the ones who set expectations. Should I be blamed for CDPR setting certain expectations, getting excited for it and being let down? Oh, sure, you can't please everyone. People who followed marketing and wanted futuristic GTA didn't get what they wanted, but people who wanted futuristic Witcher did get what they wanted. Still, is it GTA fans fault for being disappointed? I understand that some people just like to rub their cocks to this game and some people just treat it as a more personal teen drama where they ship and stuff. Some people look at renders and say, "OMG QUINN, NEVER LOOKED SO HOLY BEFORE," and others will analyse it in terms of a story. DPC places strong emphasis on making all those unique routes; is it wrong of me to expect quality from a guy who promised quality and who created quality content before?

I know what a creative vision is. I understand that BaDIK is something made by one man with a specific vision. He knows the story; he knows the characters and game mechanics more than anyone. I don't want to be the person who wants to tell him or anyone that I know those characters or story better than him. And I don't think he should listen to people who do. But your line of thinking looks like a complete rejection of constructive criticism and objective flaws in the game just because it is successful. How can we have an objective flaw? Because we're talking about writing, there are writing principles that make a story better or worse and there are some writing errors like plot holes.

And that's where my issue was. Would never tell DPC that Jill shouldn't behave like that because if he feels his character would do that, he can make it so and then I can look at her behaviour in 1–9 EPs and analyse if Jill's decision was believable. I just had an issue with characters behaving differently on different routes despite similar circumstances. Just throwing my two cents, I truly think that DPC's crown wouldn't fall from his head because of listening to some folk, doesn't have to be me.

If you want to, dude, you can respond; gonna eagerly read it, but from me, that's it. Thanks for the talk and for challenging my views without being toxic. And also, thanks for what you do; I always love to read analysis like that. I'm planning on reading the things you linked in one of your previous messages.
 
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This week I focused on lewd scenes. I mainly worked on animations and some static renders as I completed two lewd scenes for different girls. After that, I completed static renders for two shorter scenes, and that's where I'm at today.

I'm down to 11 events on my episode flowchart that I discussed in last week's update. Looking at it, the writing and art of all events of the first half of the episode should now be complete; the remaining events are in the second half.

Three of the remaining events are of a shorter kind; the other eight are medium to long.

Next week, I will work on a different main girl branch and start by playing and writing some planned content. After that, I will likely work on lewd scenes again to further extend my animation queue.

I didn't get my needed PC parts this week because of a shipping delay. Hopefully, they will be here next week.

Have a nice weekend
Dr PinkCake
I've been wondering, with all the income he gets on a daily, weekly, monthly and yearly base, is he still using the 1 pc to do all the automatic rendering, or does he have several pc's by now?
 

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I've been wondering, with all the income he gets on a daily, weekly, monthly and yearly base, is he still using the 1 pc to do all the automatic rendering, or does he have several pc's by now?
DPC has several PCs all with 4090s. He named them after the girls in BaD.
 
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DPC just doesn't post anything in the F95 forum anymore because the AL shitstorm was too much. But I am sure, even if DPC has not commented on this, that he is in the BaDIK thread of the F95 forum from time to time and reads our post. This thread is a tremendous source of information for DPC.

In his Q&A wrote the following.
"I'm immensely grateful for the success, even though I still battle with handling it. Seeing people chat daily about something I created and how a community has come from it is very humbling. I'm sad I can't be a part of the community in the same way as players, but I do love reading reactions and theories. It often surprises me how attentive players can be; they get what I am going for based on a single sentence or picture. I think it's because they understand the characters very well by now and can relate to their problems and stories."

That really says it all. He loves reading reactions and theories, but understandably he can't take part in the discussions because it would lead to untenable demands from the fans, who he would then upset if he didn't give in to their demands. Personally, I wouldn't want to expose myself to this martyrdom either.
Not to mention that he might give away to much spoilers by mixing into our discussions.
 

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While waiting for ep 10, I do this =)). I choose Maya and Josy so I will create the story from that path.
You guys can share your idea with me while we wait for the real story release. View attachment 2829252
WhoTF is Kevin? is she and Maya cheating behind my back? :D :D :D
Guess Maya learned to much from her brother, i thought he was the only one in the family that cheated :p

but to awnser the story. when she steps out with Maya: the MC shockes himself, finding out that dating Josy means becomming Tommy's Brother in Law, and ends it directly with Josy :p
 
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Kpyna

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I know what a creative vision is. I understand that BaDIK is something made by one man with a specific vision. He knows the story; he knows the characters and game mechanics more than anyone. I don't want to be the person who wants to tell him or anyone that I know those characters or story better than him. And I don't think he should listen to people who do. But your line of thinking looks like a complete rejection of constructive criticism and objective flaws in the game just because it is successful. How can we have an objective flaw? Because we're talking about writing, there are writing principles that make a story better or worse and there are some writing errors like plot holes.
I don't reject criticism as is, but here we come back to what we have already discussed. Fair criticism can be called what the absolute majority of players do not like, so it deserve critics and should be fixed somehow, probably. But do you have such statistics? I don't think so. Does it or would it interfere and conflict with authors vision on some aspects, characters and plot development? And finally, this game is not complete, it's still in development, and, probably some things you are not satisfied with currently may change in near or far future.

And finally, some criticism just can't change anything even if it's fair. Like development time increase or DPCs approach to development and other mostly philosophical questions.

My points why DPC shouldn't be criticised and should be able to peacefully release his idea in a final product:

1. He work and create game alone, not in a team. It changes a lot. This guy is crazy, in a good way. For this alone, he can be forgiven a lot.
2. Story and game itself is not finished, yet. What you criticise or have a wish to change may be implemented later.
3. Almost each player, including AVN addicted ones, got a lot of options and choices which fits their taste and preferences. This can't grow infinitely, but I think nobody may tell that BADIK have few options or most of them are fictional and fake. Just correlate your wishes and expectations with reality and compare game from time to time to other ones in genre to stay tuned.
4. Make sure what you exactly criticise are really not liked by a majority or at least a lot of other players, otherwise it's your personal trouble and vision. Think of what and how game would change if your wishes sometime will be implemented.
5. Call me any other game (in same genre, of course) which have 12k+ pages of discussions on a single forum. Look at the game rating in Steam, as well. It's a quite decent and fair indicator of game quality. Games which have really serious flaws or the reasons for criticism doesn't have such ratings.

I don't forbid or dissuade anyone from criticism, but since you are for justice, you should be aware of why this is impractical and useless in the case of BADIK and DPC himself.

We are all here thanks to his idea, realisation of such idea in game, and all these discussions and battles are just an indicator that the game and product itself is doing well. My opinion and my 2 cents :geek:
 

Riggnarock

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Episode 11, Quinn sets fire to the Pink Rose, you can only save Lily or Nicole - not both.
  • Save Lily (Others path only, requires Lily likes you)
  • Save Nicole (Others path only, requires Nicole likes you)
  • Save Madame (default)
* Sacrifice the Bouncer to save all 3 (Others Path only, Requires Bouncer Hate you).

Always choose option 4 :p
 

Riggnarock

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what i do wonder is why DPC made Quinn Flat and Bitchy? I would imagin she already had everything off her chest :p
 

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WhoTF is Kevin? is she and Maya cheating behind my back? :D :D :D
Guess Maya learned to much from her brother, i thought he was the only one in the family that cheated :p

but to awnser the story. when she steps out with Maya: the MC shockes himself, finding out that dating Josy means becomming Tommy's Brother in Law, and ends it directly with Josy :p
That my name for the MC =)
 
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What is the best route to go, have high dik affinity or more neutral for getting with most of the girls in the game?
 

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Seeing those pictures of Maya just confirms what I have been saying
The mc needs to marry her before some other dude tries to win her heart
Because we all know she could have any guy in the world
Dudes would be lining up to get a chance with her
It's not every day you get a chance with an angel like her
A ring doesn't really lock a girl down, now a baby in her belly ...
 
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